--- Log opened Fri Sep 13 00:00:18 2019 00:03 -!- oddball [~oddball@h184-61-58-181.lvrgtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:05 -!- oddball [~oddball@h184-61-58-181.lvrgtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 03:20 < aestetix> did you guys see the ted cruz/alyssa milano discussion? 06:27 <@opticron> no...that sounds surreal 06:32 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIUcY5CY7pw 06:32 < aestetix> it's actually really good 07:14 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.209.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:22 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.209.103] has joined #se2600 07:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 08:04 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:07 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 10:57 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eykxtjsxeabdclqk] has joined #se2600 12:01 < aestetix> so assuming I saw correctly 12:01 < aestetix> Beto wants to confiscate AK-47s and AR-15s 12:01 < aestetix> one of which is already banned, and one of which is a semi-automatic, not an automatic 12:01 < aestetix> do I have that right? 13:10 <@Mirage> Beto's an idiot and will just pander to all the knee-jerk politians that come up with various hair-brained ideas to address things after an evernt which have no chance of doing anything 13:21 <@opticron> aestetix, neither is banned 13:21 <@opticron> and iirc, full autos are allowed in some cases via tax stamp and a pile of paperwork, but I could be wrong there 13:24 < aestetix> oh I thought automatic weapons were banned 13:24 < aestetix> I mean unless you're military or something 13:26 < xray> An individual can own an automatic weapon but it requires extensive background checks and a tax stamp. 13:26 < xray> The average time for approval is 14 months. 13:26 < aestetix> xray: is there any gun that an individual *can't* own? 13:27 < xray> Depends on the country. 13:27 < aestetix> the US 13:27 < aestetix> specifically asking relating to the 2nd amendment 13:27 < xray> Not sure if there is a limit in the US. I have heard of people who own tanks. 13:29 < xray> It is very expensive and a serious hassle. For instance if you already own an automatic weapon it doesn't shorten the time to get a second one. It takes the same length of time and costs as the first one. 13:29 < xray> Death by bureaucracy. 13:29 < aestetix> So it's functionally banned 13:29 < xray> yes 13:31 < xray> There is also a rule that the automatic weapon had to be manufactured and/or imported before the automatic weapons ban. So you can't get new, only used. 13:31 < xray> And there is a finite supply of them 13:35 < xray> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act#The_market_for_NFA_items 13:43 <@Mirage> I knew someone that had a military surplus M-60. I don't remember how long it took for him to get it, but I do know that he had to put down a $5k non-refundable deposit which would go toward the purchase when approved or simply be forfeit if not. 13:50 < oddball> Full-autos are legal, as long as they are registered on the NFA registry... which was closed in '86. 13:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 13:51 <@oddball> And the current wait for getting transfers approved is... uh... I think I have a buddy that has been waiting for over a year on one. 13:52 < xray> over 14 months on average 13:52 <@opticron> aestetix, also, when I said neither is banned, there are semi-auto and full auto variants of both the AK-47 and the AR-15 13:52 <@opticron> so you can get either one, just in semi-auto variants 13:53 <@oddball> And yes, Beto is saying that he wants to take everyone's AR-15s, which... like you said, is a semi-auto rifle. 13:53 <@oddball> Hell, he's apparently selling t-shirts that proclaim it. 13:54 <@oddball> https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-take-your-ar-15-unisex-womens-styles/ 14:01 < aestetix> so basically, Beto is going all out totalitarian 14:03 <@oddball> Oh, there's also folks calling for the banning and confiscation of all semi-autos. 14:04 < xray> Which is virtually all guns. 14:04 < aestetix> That said, this is coming from Beto, whose claim to fame is losing a senate race 14:04 <@oddball> Hell, Hillary was calling for us to impliment "the Australian model," which is basically the forceful turn in of damn near all guns. 14:05 <@oddball> When folks would confront her on that fact, she would either say "no it's not," or "well, I don't know the exact details of what they did..." 15:17 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-52-45.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 15:25 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-57-150.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 15:27 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-52-45.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:42 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pwliqulislgxoqrn] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xszdmjilttinbhij] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42 -!- dc0de[m] [dc0dematri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aofmupnuufnpkomc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49 -!- Imgur[m] [nebimgurma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ieblrvprbmidyvgx] has joined #se2600 15:50 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 15:52 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-57-150.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:56 < aestetix> heh 15:56 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE 15:56 < aestetix> top comment 15:57 < aestetix> honestly I tihnk that single comment by Beto just won Trump the re-election 16:11 -!- ezelkow1 [ezelkow1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ppwtvxwwrgzfmgct] has joined #se2600 16:11 -!- dc0de[m] [dc0dematri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cnkogestjlprinbe] has joined #se2600 16:12 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:17 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 16:25 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 16:37 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-172-58-115.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 16:39 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-55-177.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:47 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-59-243.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 16:47 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-172-58-115.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:48 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-59-243.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 16:51 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-59-243.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:12 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-56-103.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 17:14 -!- NotWarcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-59-243.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:22 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@96.69.98.139] has joined #se2600 17:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76] by ChanServ 18:12 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-170-56-103.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:42 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eykxtjsxeabdclqk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:13 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Sat Sep 14 00:00:20 2019