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07:07 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:08 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Those are basically two separate questions
07:09 <@Dolemite> Docker/Containers - A very handy way to package up not just your application, but the entire environment to run it.   No more lists of Apache X, PHP Y, MySQL Z, etc.   You can simply deliver a container that's got everything pre-integrated, and you pass some environment variables for the configuration items that would be specific for the install location, such as URL, etc.
07:11 <@Dolemite> Kubernetes - An orchestrator, or band director, that knows how many of each instrument are needed in order to perform a piece of music.   If the flutes are too quiet, it can add more.   If the tubas are too loud, it can reduce the number, etc.   It's for dynamically scaling applications based upon load and in a highly available manner, but it presents some new design challenges - mainly around persistent
07:11 <@Dolemite> data.   Not every application belongs in Kubernetes.
07:12 <@Dolemite> But the main driver behind it right now is that their CIO went to a Gartner conference and were told that k8s was the future, so then that CIO came back and told their IT folks to "do kubernetes"
07:12  * eryc plays the tuba loudly
07:12 <@Dolemite> kubectl kill eryc
07:12 <@Dolemite> ugh, need coffee
07:12  * eryc spawns a replicaset
07:12 <@Dolemite> kubectl delete pod eryc
07:17 <@Dolemite> Man, this PingFederate/LDAP crap is kicking my ass.   Dude that used to 'own' it already left and basically pointed me to the vendor documentation site and said, "read up."   People are asking me for help and I'm still trying to get an understanding of the components for federated identity.
07:21 <@eryc> i don't know what federated identity means really
07:21 <@Dolemite> welcome to the club!
07:21 <@Dolemite> Actually, I do, at least, know what it means.
07:22 <@Dolemite> It's allowing people to authenticate who they are through a trusted third party.  ie - Login with Google; Login with Facebook; Login with AD; etc
07:22 <@Dolemite> It's the first step towards actual Single Sign-On
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07:29 <@eryc> ah
07:29 <@eryc> i've done some stuff with oauth2/openid
07:29 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's federated identity
07:30 <@eryc> i can say it's much easier to pay a vendor to do it, but i got it working
07:32 <@eryc> well sorta, i wanted it to work on a wildcard subdomain but google requires a fixed redirect uri
07:32 <@eryc> i think there was still a bug i had to fix
07:33 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it's nuts how complicated some of the rulesets here are setup
07:33 <@Dolemite> If internal, allow Kerberos ticket, but if external, can use this LDAP directory for some IP ranges, another LDAP for different, and if those fail, looking in a third LDAP directory
07:34 <@eryc> this sounds like a book by dante
07:34 <@Dolemite> pretty close
07:35 <@Dolemite> And these folks are asking me to make a change to things I don't understand and I'm like...   yo, shit ain't broke, so let me leave it alone!
07:35 <@eryc> do you have a lab replica?
07:36 <@eryc> seems like one mistake and even you're locked out of everything
07:36 <@Dolemite> I have dev, yeah, but at this point I need a secondary dev for me to play around in
07:36 <@Dolemite> Because they're actively using the dev stuff
07:36 <@eryc> heh, of course
07:37 <@Dolemite> They're not actively using it for prod, but we have a huge SAP update at the end of FY closeout this month
07:37 <@Dolemite> So it's heavy QA time
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10:41 <@Mirage> TX State fir is kicking it off retro with performers... First night:  Rick Springfield,  Second Night:  Cameo
10:42 <@Mirage> Lol..and 98 Degrees on the next to the last day.  Boy bands just aren't quite the same when they get grow.
10:42 <@Mirage> n.
12:35 < aestetix> you know
12:35 < aestetix> you get a certain feeling of horror when you take medication prescribed by a doctor
12:35 < aestetix> only to look it up and discover that the same medication is banned in the US
13:36 < oddball> meh, it's just a little heroin. :p
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15:37 <@Evilpig> banned in the U.S.A. and banned in C.A. are not the same thing
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16:10 <@eryc> Evilpig is known to cause cancer in the state of california
16:45 <@Evilpig> CA
16:45 <@Evilpig> I swear i'm going retarded at the end of the day
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