--- Log opened Tue Aug 06 00:00:20 2019
01:04 < K`Tetch_> oddball - the TSA keys? if you get some printed, please can I borrow them for con?
04:58 < aestetix> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/05/i-dont-smell-meet-the-people-who-have-stopped-washing
04:58 < PigBot> ‘I don’t smell!’ Meet the people who have stopped washing | Life and style | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2xe9nds
06:44 <@oddball> K`Tetch_: I meant a 3D printer
07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:26  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:37 < aestetix> man have any of you watched the commentary on the DSA convention?
08:19 <@Dolemite> DSA?
08:20 <@Dolemite> Democratic Socialists & Anarchists?
08:23 < aestetix> Democratic Socialists of America
08:23 < aestetix> that group that Ocasio-Cortez is in
08:24 < aestetix> they had a convention over the weekend, it's hilarious to watch
08:24 < aestetix> If you think Congress is disfunctional and slow.... oh man
08:30 <@eryc> point of privilege
09:24 <@oddball> https://thevalleyreport.com/2016/04/25/woman-arrested-for-defecating-on-boss-desk-after-winning-the-lottery/?fbclid=IwAR3uTt-tsuOHYu6-I95f8ZrTmeYwrmikh_y6-Ur5_ZDTSkvZMfEKVv-G-7s
09:24 < PigBot> Woman arrested for defecating on boss' desk after winning the lottery (at thevalleyreport.com) http://tinyurl.com/yy4638w3
09:28 < aestetix> how is that possible
09:28 < aestetix> girls don't poop
09:29 <@eryc> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/woman-quits-winning-lottery/
09:29 < PigBot> Was a Woman Arrested for Defecating on Supervisor's Desk After Winning Lottery? (at www.snopes.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxprgovu
09:29 <@oddball> Sadly, it's fake, but damn if it's not hillarious.
09:29 < aestetix> see I told you
09:31 <@oddball> Gotto's response to being told it's fake elsewhere: "That makes me very sad. Why couldn't you let me believe in Poo Santa for a bit longer?"
09:42 <@Mirage> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/californias-new-ammo-background-check-law-blocked-100-sales-in-first-month/
09:42 < PigBot>  California's new ammo background check law blocked 100 sales in first month - CBS News  (at www.cbsnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxhzxxe8
09:42 <@Mirage> lol... "Guns don't kill people," Newsom said, noting that it also requires ammunition.
09:43 <@Mirage> I'm pretty damn sure that i could beat someone to death with a gun pretty easily if i wanted to...no ammunition required.
09:46 <@eryc> doubt
09:46 <@Mirage> volunteer for test?
09:46  * eryc sits on Mirage until he wimpers
09:51 <@Dolemite> Mirage may be small, but he's WIRY
09:53 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN7r7nk0-zc
09:53 < PigBot> The Replacements - Meet Nigel Gruff (at www.youtube.com)
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10:25 <@Shadow404> University Financial Service centers suck donkey balls
10:27 <@Shadow404> My work sent an LOC (letter of credit) to pay for my classes, and school doesnt start processing it till first day of term and now im on financial hold and can't access my online books because the LOC is still being processed, (their issue). This hasn't happened before their system was updated, so now im stuck on a 30min que to have this fixed or get some resolution.
10:28 < aestetix> heh
10:28 < aestetix> Shadow404: it's funny. In europe university is basically free, and as a result, everyone has a masters degree, and everyone thinks college is kind of useless
10:28 < aestetix> I think I may actually be the only one at my company without a degree
10:29 <@Shadow404> heh
10:34 < K`Tetch_> 09:24:17 «aestetix» If you think Congress is disfunctional and slow.... oh man - I did watch it. if ou think they're bad, you should see the Pirate Party ones run by the Germans
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10:34 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: I've heard stories
10:34 < K`Tetch_> its, in fact, how ALL such meetings go, regardless of aprty. only the truely ignorant think otherwise
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10:36 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: most meetings I have been to do not have whiney babies complaining that clapping is too loud and sets off anxiety triggers
10:38 <@eryc> you didnt say point of privilege
10:38 < K`Tetch_> and you didn't note that the person that did that was a troublemaker
10:39 < K`Tetch_> someone gets manipulated by the media WAY too easily....
10:40 < K`Tetch_> baaa, aestetix?
10:40 < aestetix> haha
10:41 < aestetix> eryc: check your point of privilege
10:41 <@eryc> my pronoun is yer
10:42 <@eryc> don't gender me bro
10:42 <@Dolemite> Your pronoun is be0tch
10:43 <@eryc> yer*
10:43 < aestetix> eryc: wait, do you know what a pronoun is
10:43 <@eryc> yous*
10:43 <@Dolemite> "Congratulations on paying off your student loan!" <---   Yay, mother truckers, yay!
10:44 < aestetix> Like if I want to use Dolemite's pronoun, I would say "Have you seen Dolemite's breakdancing? Bananapants is pretty good"
10:44 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I thought that move was called poopypants
10:44 <@eryc> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/your <- pronoun
10:44 < PigBot> Your | Definition of Your at Dictionary.com (at www.dictionary.com) http://tinyurl.com/y34ekk8k
10:45 <@Corydon76> Not to sidetrack this fascinating shitsession, but anybody have experience negotiating with Comcast?  I'm about to come off a service contract, which means my rate is destined to go up.  I need to figure out if I should wait until they bill me more and be "outraged", or call beforehand, and try to negotiate an extension of the contract.
10:45 <@Dolemite> Corydon76: Depends on whether or not you have an alternative.
10:45 < aestetix> eryc: my pronoun is "goatse"
10:45 <@Dolemite> If they're the only game in town, they typically know it
10:46 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: I don't.  AT&T has shit options in the area.
10:46 <@Corydon76> I might still be able to threaten them with jumping ship, though.
10:46 <@Dolemite> Are you on residential or commercial?
10:46 <@Corydon76> commercial
10:46 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'd say Pig is the most experienced with that
10:46 <@Corydon76> End of a 3 year contract, with a baked-in $60/cycle discount.
10:47 <@Dolemite> For internet only?
10:47 <@Corydon76> Right
10:47 <@Evilpig> hrmm?  wha?
10:47 <@Dolemite> How much were they charging and for what speed?
10:47 <@Evilpig> I've been summoned
10:47 < aestetix> Evilpig: happy birthday
10:47 <@Mirage> Yeah, and he was forewarned of being bent over and given no lube after my experience with them
10:47 <@Corydon76> 75 down for $100 a month, or thereabouts
10:48 <@eryc> \(°□°)/
10:48 <@Dolemite> Jeebus H Christ that's some shitty pricing
10:48 <@Evilpig> pretty much your only option with them is to sign a new contract and take whatever shit rate they are pushing for today.
10:48 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: with no cap
10:48 <@Evilpig> they will give no discounts for anything other than a contract because they don't have to
10:48 <@Dolemite> I have no cap, but then again, I'm not with Comcast
10:48 <@Corydon76> I could probably go back to residential service, but they'll cap my per-month usage
10:48 <@eryc> i'm not wearing a cap
10:48 <@Evilpig> there is no real negotiations with them, if you want a static IP you have to take their equipment too
10:49 <@Evilpig> you can go unlimited residential for $50 extra a month
10:49 <@Dolemite> I pay $49.95/month for 300 Mbps/100 Mbps FTTH.
10:49 <@Mirage> Dolemite: you don't wanna now what I have to pay my cable company. and even with their "gigabit" business service it's still massively asyncronous speeds.
10:49 <@Corydon76> I'm fine with another 3 year contract.  Hell, I'd sign for 10 years, if they gave me the same rate as today.
10:50 <@eryc> thats not how you negotiate
10:50 <@Dolemite> Pretty much impossible to threaten them with going to regulators, as Marsha Blackburn has been sucking their dicks for decades.
10:50 <@Corydon76> I know.  I have to fake being outraged at the price increase and threaten to take my business elsewhere, and their team will try to negotiate to keep me as a customer
10:51 <@eryc> you call, say your contract is coming up for renewal and you want to check pricing and compare it to other vendors.. if the pricing is good you might be willing to renew while on the call
10:51 <@eryc> they get their internet points for making a sale
10:52 <@eryc> if you want it cheaper you can say you want to speak to cancellations
10:53 <@eryc> they have authority to give discounts that the other reps dont
10:53 <@eryc> they're all reading from a script and dont give any fucks
10:53 <@Mirage> heh, looks like we all live in the right place: "Astronomers from the U.S. and Europe have put together a new 3D model of the galaxy based on the distance between stars and found that our galaxy is warped and twisted."
10:53 <@eryc> you dont even have to pretend that you're serious
10:55 <@Corydon76> eryc: thank you.  That's helpful.
10:56 < K`Tetch_> yeah, my wife works for verizon in tech support, and she has to go through dertactor coaching every time someone marks her badly. even if they say 'she was absolutely amazing, verizon sucks'
10:56 < K`Tetch_> it's all run by management/buysiness and comp sci people who've never worked phones, ever
11:01 <@Mirage> Ware been to europe lately?  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49248764
11:01 < PigBot> Man ordered to collect fridge he threw off Spanish cliff - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/yyar5o7f
11:03 < K`Tetch_> and he lost his job, tgot fined 40,000 euros, his company was fined 300,000 euros, has to provide documents for all their recycling, and have random inspections over the next 10 years
12:12 <@Dolemite> Wow.   I was just called racist by a SJW for saying 'n word' instead of 'nigger'
12:12 <@Dolemite> As long as I continue to use euphemisms I'm apparently continuing to give power to the word
12:14  * oddball rolls his eyes
12:14 <@Dolemite> Here I thought I was simply trying to be nice by not using such a racially demeaning word
12:15 < aestetix> wait what
12:15 < aestetix> wait. Dolemite was this on social media?
12:15 <@Dolemite> yep
12:16 < aestetix> well there you go
12:16 <@Dolemite> Where else would such a ludicrous thing happen?
12:17 < aestetix> so uh
12:17 < aestetix> what were you supposed to say
12:18 <@Dolemite> According to him, I should have used the word, 'nigger,' instead of saying 'the n word'
12:18 < aestetix> so he's racist
12:18 <@Dolemite> LOL, that's one way to look at it
12:19 < K`Tetch_> so, it sounds more like someone trying to stir shit up, rather than being honest
12:19 < aestetix> well I mean most of the SJWs are actually closet sexists/racists trying to hide it
12:19 <@Dolemite> If I had any fucks to give, I'd respond as such
12:19 <@oddball> Dolemite: At which point, he'd scream about that, and try to get you fired.
12:19 < aestetix> Like who was that news guy... Matt Lauer or something
12:19 <@Dolemite> oddball: No shit
12:19 < aestetix> He was public about pushing sjw like stuff, and then it turned out he was abusing women behind the scenes
12:20 < aestetix> and I know of two formerly high profile guys in the security world who pushed all that stuff, turns out they also had a rather sordid past
12:20 <@oddball> Well, who knows the evils of the world better than those that are perpetrating it.
12:20 < aestetix> in one case, really really sordid
12:21 < K`Tetch_> and what, they didn't leave the money on your dresser table, aestetix?
12:21 < aestetix> lol
12:21 < K`Tetch_> people naturally are hypocrites
12:22 < K`Tetch_> its not unique to one specific group or ideology
12:23 < K`Tetch_> in other news - did you know that 10% of the bicoin blockchain, is just the last 4 months?
12:24 <@Dolemite> No, but I do know that blockchain fever hasn't really subsided, yet.   Now I have friends/relatives who don't know shit about computers talking about these new companies they've heard of that are using blockchain!
12:25 < K`Tetch_> i've spent 7 weeks so far tryign to update thec hain in my old client
12:26 < K`Tetch_> I even downloaded a torrent of the chain up til May1st (270gb)
12:27 <@Dolemite> So complete non sequitor, here
12:27 <@eryc> is there any point in keeping the chain history?
12:27 <@Dolemite> On the subject of Facial Recognition Tech
12:27 <@Dolemite> Delta is starting to implement it for boarding, in some airports
12:28 <@Dolemite> Delta claims it can save time getting people on the plane
12:28 < K`Tetch_> generally, no. eryc - i've set my client to only keep the last gb of chain
12:28 <@Dolemite> After having flown very recently on Delta, I have to disagree
12:28 <@Dolemite> The biggest time element in getting a Delta plane seated is in making customer learn how to read which rows and seats they are at
12:28 < K`Tetch_> we already had faster facial ercognition -it's called 'looking at passport, then looking at person'
12:29 <@Dolemite> "Oh, this isn't 24D?"
12:29 <@Dolemite> <shuffle for 4 minutes to move while 100 stand in line waiting to get around you>
12:29 <@Dolemite> Repeat at least 5x per flight
12:33 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: the best way to decrease boarding times, carry on items are no longer luggage.  laptops, purses, backpacks
12:33 <@Evilpig> check your bags you fuckin' pricks
12:34 <@Dolemite> When I'm traveling for business, I carry as little on as possible.   Let work pay for someone to move my bags from plane to plane.
12:34 <@Evilpig> I spent more time on my last flight waiting for assholes to walk to the back of the plane to find overhead space to put their shit before they had to go all the way back to the front to their seat
12:34 <@Dolemite> Well, even on this last vacation I was on - I had my backpack and my CPAP.
12:35 <@Dolemite> Everything else was in my checked bag.
12:38 < K`Tetch_> my last flight, i brought my dual p3 desktop as carry-on
12:38 < K`Tetch_> took 8 trays at security
12:42 <@Dolemite> Glad I did the TSA PreCheck program.  No more removing laptops, tablets, etc at the checkpoint.   Better yet, no more mooning everybody when I have to remove my belt and my pants fall down.
12:43 < aestetix> Dolemite: you fly commando?
12:44 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Not intentionally
12:45 < K`Tetch_> i just don't fly - much better
12:45 < K`Tetch_> fuck the airlines
13:18 <@oddball> Dolemite: TSA tends not to know what to do when you fly wearing a kilt.
13:19 <@Corydon76> If I felt like screwing with the TSA and not missing my flight, I might wear chain mail.
13:20 <@Corydon76> At the very least, the next time I flew, I'd get, "Oh, it's YOU!"
13:22 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: global entry is great too if you fly international alot
13:22 <@Shadow404> Wife and I skipped a 1.5 hr long line even for U.S. citizens
13:22 <@Shadow404> and went through security in 30 secs
13:23 <@Mirage> i really wish the day would come when tech companies would figure out that cheaper is not better in regard to outsourcing shit to India.
13:24 <@Shadow404> dream on
13:24 <@Mirage> Out of 50+ ppl I've worked with on our India teams maybe 4-5 top were worth a shit
13:25 <@Corydon76> So you have to spend 10 times as long on the phone... Are they paying them a tenth of the previous support payscale?
13:26 <@Mirage> right now i've got two projets being re-opened and reassigned to me that the india teams fucked up...but i wasn't supposed to work on them beyond creating the process documents and then walking them through the first phase
13:27 <@Mirage> and i've also got some einstein on IM that is suggesting that in order to correct getting a "your account has been disabled" error that they should reset my citrix password
13:27 <@Mirage> it's the stupid shit like that i really hate.
13:28 <@Shadow404> if its not in a runbook they can follow without thinking outside the box on, they have no clue
13:29 <@Shadow404> but i agree with your 5 out of 50+ being quality assesment
13:32 < K`Tetch_> 14:25:40 «@Corydon76» So you have to spend 10 times as long on the phone... Are they paying them a tenth of the previous support payscale? <-- yes!
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13:48 <@Corydon76> K`Tetch_: I expect not.  I think, at best, they're probably being paid a third payscale.  This is India, after all, not Bangladesh.
13:49 <@Corydon76> The real question is whether or not the American call center was any more competent.
13:50 <@Corydon76> Sadly, because such transitions take time, if they were to transition back now, I'd expect the American call center to be distinctly incompetent until they get all the kinks worked out, and find good staff.
13:52 < K`Tetch_> Corydon76 - not really, there's a lot of call center companies (my wife works at one) and they just add int he new line, spin up the citrix instances, transfer some experienced people over, and give em a week or twos training on the new job
13:54 < K`Tetch_> in the past 5 years shes gone from directv, to walmart warrenty, to home depot warrenty, to cellphone insurance, to home computer helpdesk (soluto?) and now onto verizon techcoach
13:55 < K`Tetch_> they have the basics, its just the specifics of the processes they have to learn
14:26 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHefhIId4qY
14:26 < PigBot> New Facebook Feature Scans Profile To Pinpoint Exactly When Things Went Wrong (at www.youtube.com)
15:21 < xray> No special app is needed. It is the date they created their Facebook account.
15:21 < K`Tetch_> 12 yeasr ago yesterday for me
15:22 < xray> Since I don't have a Facebook account my life is still on an upward trend.
15:25 < xray> Well . . . unless an alternate turning point was the first time I used Windows?
15:25 < xray> In that case I'm in some un-named circle of hell.
18:10 <@Shadow404> "It's norminal time!!!"
18:11 <@Shadow404> wrong channel, SpaceX stream just started
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23:16  * dasunt is bored.
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