--- Log opened Mon Jul 01 00:00:26 2019
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06:01  * Shadow404 hugs MjrTom[m] 
06:02 <@Shadow404> "And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
06:02 <@Shadow404> And the stars look very different today"
06:18 < aestetix> Shadow404: maybe you should lay off the pot ;)
06:22 <@Shadow404> hehe
06:22 <@Shadow404> sent that to wrong channel
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06:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:27 <@Evilpig> oddball: did you see weird al saturday night at ascend?
07:32 <@Mirage> Shadow404: Can you hear me Major Tom..
07:43 <@Shadow404> nope
07:44 <@Shadow404> my fav version: https://youtu.be/KaOC9danxNo
07:44 < PigBot> Space Oddity (at youtu.be)
07:46 <@Evilpig> how about this version?  https://photos.app.goo.gl/wMjiZ5od4263JHH87
07:46 < PigBot> Shared album - Wilbur Longwisch - Google Photos (at photos.app.goo.gl) http://tinyurl.com/y65smxsx
07:51 < xray> Space Oddity is awesome.
07:53 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: what is that pic?
08:10 <@Evilpig> it's a video not a pic
08:10 <@Evilpig> blurry as shit but it's there
08:14 <@Shadow404> that is weirdddd
09:09 <@Mirage> i really hate CentOS 7...or anything with systemd really.   Got a box that hangs every time doing a reboot, but will shutdown with halt -p flawlessly...makes no sense
09:09 < xray> Shadow404: I think it is Puddles Pity Party's version of Space Oddity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydhE7wThDtI
09:09 < PigBot> SPACE ODDITY - David Bowie cover - Puddles Pity Party (at www.youtube.com)
09:10 <@Mirage> on reboot the hang is after stopping all filesystems, so nothing gets logged
09:10 <@Evilpig> we've been seeing some strange shit with reboots and rhel7 too.  still trying to get a handle on it
09:11 <@Evilpig> we thought it might have been tied to nfs mounts somehow, auditd somehow, esx not getting the reset signal
09:12 <@Dagmar> It's probably more insane systemd session management buggery
09:15 <@Evilpig> when you reboot 300 systems in under 5 minutes for monthly patching and ~%10 of them decide to stop trying to reboot and hang at all storage unmounted or something like that and they never move it's frustrating
09:15 <@Evilpig> having to watch nagios for something to not check in for more than 5 minutes to then go check the console on esx to see if you need to send it a power cycle
09:15 <@Evilpig> stupid system-duh
09:21 <@Dolemite> How do you REALLY feel about it?
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09:31 <@Mirage> Originally we were going camping with my family over the holiday weekend, but all the campgrounds in NE OK are closed due to all the lakes being flooded (15-25' above full), so my wife and mom decided on an alternate plan....so now I'm being dragged to this Wed. https://blackbirdpresents.com/concert/outlaw-music-festival-tour-2019/
09:31 < PigBot> Outlaw Music Festival Tour 2019 - Blackbird Presents (at blackbirdpresents.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5c9oad8
09:32 <@Dolemite> Mirage: You still suck
09:34 <@Mirage> Willie and Robert Plant will be cool.   I could do without most everyone else.   Counting Crows doesn't thrill me in the least.   I saw them and "The Wallflowers" at Starwood back in ~'98 and it was the _worst_ concert I've ever been to.
09:34 <@Dolemite> Counting Crows was great at 328 Performance Hall back in the early/mid 90s
09:35 <@Dolemite> But Willien Nelson + Robert Plant + Allison Kraus + Bonnie Raitt is awesome enough in itself
09:35 <@Dolemite> s/Willian/Willie
09:38 <@Evilpig> where's that nelson jpg I have for times like this
09:38  * Evilpig dcc's <nelson haha.jpg> to Mirage
09:38 <@Dolemite> https://boingboing.net/2019/07/01/mike-tyson-as-every-character.html
09:38 < PigBot> Mike Tyson as every character in Family Matters / Boing Boing (at boingboing.net)
09:38 <@Evilpig> and back to watching the new mike tyson mysteries episode
09:39 <@Dolemite> I'm disappointed that there isn't any audio of Mike trying to sound like Urkle
10:01 <@Mirage> oh, and this stuff works on the squirrels.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XR9QWA
10:01 < PigBot> Amazon.com: Cole's FS16 Flaming Squirrel Seed Sauce, 16-Ounce: Garden & Outdoor (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y4egkpuc
10:02 <@Mirage> I idn't get to catch any funny theatrics, but none of the squirrels were at the feeder for more than a couple minutes after I put out the dosed seed, and none have been back at the feeder since that I've seen.
10:04 <@Mirage> Evilpig: do you ever have any issues with having plex decide to stop updating the shows and stuff and need to "rebuild/repair" the database?
10:05 < aestetix> So Dolemite what's the best way to get a balanced view of US politics
10:05 < aestetix> At the moment reading The Hill and Politico seem to do it
10:05 < aestetix> but maybe there's a better way
10:06 <@Mirage> I swear mine decides to fuck up after every few plex updates and requires doing their fixes to get it detecting new stuff, changes, continue watching, etc again
10:07 <@Mirage> aestetix: read the same stuff from a bunch of different sources and then _try_ to determine the truth of it.  Everything is skewed some way, so there's not really any one good single source
10:10 <@Mirage> We did that back in Jr High for one of my classes with the local news channels.  3 people volunteered to record the 5 and 10 news on a channel (ABC/NBC/CBS), then we would watch them in class pretty much side-by side comparing not only the stories and content, but also the order and differences
10:12 <@Evilpig> Mirage: nope.  but i've had some weird issues around it detecting shows as new even though they've been there for years.  supposedly that's related to me having the content on the nas btu I can't see how
10:12 < aestetix> Mirage: yeah, but some of the sources have gotten really bad
10:16 <@Dagmar> Reverting to a previous configuration will only work if the problem was that your bootloader's configuration was changed and the new one is crap
10:16 <@Dagmar> @#$
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12:42 <@Mirage> it looks like ffmpeg+cuda on centos7 just triggered a reboot on my new server due to "Jul  1 13:36:23 ra2 kernel: resource sanity check: requesting [mem 0x000c0000-0x000fffff], which spans more than PCI Bus 0000:00 [mem 0x000c0000-0x000dffff window]"
12:51 <@Mirage> Amazon really needs to work on their delivery system...ordered 12 things at the same time, all being delivered the same day, but split into 3 different orders with different tracking.   Already got one. second is "out for delivery".  third shows "arriving before 9pm".
12:51 <@Dagmar> They probably came from different facilities via different shipping methods
12:53 <@Dolemite> Amazon's Prime Shipping is probably responsible for more greenhouse gases than all farting cows.
12:53 <@Mirage> all show shipped from Irving, TX
12:57 <@Mirage> this is just annoying... https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html
12:57 < PigBot> Upgrading to 2.4 from 2.2 - Apache HTTP Server Version 2.4 (at httpd.apache.org) http://tinyurl.com/m4b8ug9
12:58 <@Mirage> Pretty much everything i'm migrating from CentOS 6 -> 7 is broke as shit
13:00 <@Mirage> what's even more annoying is that even stuff from epel is broken.. you'd think that shit would already be 'fixed' for Apache 2.4
13:01 <@Dagmar> Well... less breaks when you avoid stepping on the package manager's toes
13:01 <@Evilpig> i've migrated a few applications to ubuntu because they were giving me so many issues with centos
13:01 <@Mirage> "Options" must have a +/-...but yet the main httpd.conf has shit declared w/o +/-..
13:01 <@Dagmar> Oh that I think will probably always be a mess
13:02 <@Mirage> Maybe i just need to go back to FreeBSD
13:02 <@Dagmar> About the only sane thing I've found is to do like we were doing at Vandy where _everything_ pertaining to how a particular vhost runs is in it's own damn file
13:02 <@Dagmar> That way at least it overrides any and all defaults
13:02 <@Mirage> NameVirtualHost being deprecated makes zero sense to me
13:03 <@Mirage> because it certainly isn't properly matching ServerName/ServerAlias to the proper site configs
13:04 <@Mirage> And I still haven't gotten DirectoryIndex to work.
13:05 <@Mirage> If it wasn't for the fact that I'm 99% sure 8 will drive me completely insane vs just mostly I'd hold out for it to be released
13:10 <@Evilpig> not looking forward to the iptables being dropped from 8
13:11 <@Mirage> A sign for NL and Dagmar: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DT2X2RZ/ref
13:11 < PigBot> Amazon.com: Rogue River Tactical Funny Sarcastic Metal Tin Sign Wall Decor Man Cave Bar Boss Employee Co Worker (Snap): Home & Kitchen (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y47hc8oh
13:27 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Well, firewall-cmd is not that bad, and I'm pretty sure you'll be able to shove in iptables after-the-fact
13:33 <@Evilpig> iptables has been nuked at the kernel level in favor of nftables
13:33 <@Evilpig> there are supposed to be wrappers but not looking forward to it
13:34 <@Mirage> gah.. and now from ffmpeg+cuda... "kernel:NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#6 stuck for 23s! [rm:15148]"
13:35 <@Mirage> Definitely remmebering why I never migrated from 6 last time..
13:35 <@Evilpig> let me see if I can find my notes on cuda.  I just redid mine as 7 not long ago
13:35 <@Evilpig> and it wasn't as painful as 6 was
13:36 <@Dagmar> Henry151: There's a few bits you  might have missed then, like declaring the default activity and setting some stuff relating to the package name itself
13:36 <@Dagmar> @#$@$
13:36 <@Evilpig> well...
13:36 <@Mirage> Evilpig: i can tell you that 6 encodes faster than 7 on the same hardware running the same job on 2 machines at the same time.
13:36 <@Evilpig> looks like I just installed the rpms this time and didnt' have to compile
13:36 <@Evilpig>   143  yum install cuda-repo-rhel7-10.1.105-1.x86_64.rpm
13:36 <@Evilpig>   144  yum clean all
13:36 <@Evilpig>   145  yum install cuda
13:37 <@Mirage> did you not have to compile ffmpeg to use cuda?
13:38 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  let me check.  I might not be using it, actually
13:38 <@Evilpig> yeah I didn't do that this time, just let plex deal with cuda
13:39 <@Evilpig> when I went to compile ffmpeg last they were in the middle of updating for the latest cuda and it was all horked and I said fuck it
13:45 <@Mirage> isn't that most of the time?
13:46 <@Mirage> it seems like i normally have to try at least 2-3 releases to get ffmpeg to compile each time i decide to install/update it
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14:22 <@Evilpig> redhat has fixed my tls authentication bug in ansible tower.  now to wait for them to release the damned patch. :-/
17:46 <@Dagmar> Crap that reminds me that I should follow up on that oddjob bug
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