--- Log opened Wed Jun 19 00:00:07 2019 00:27 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:34 -!- eryc [emiller@198.46.136.99] has joined #se2600 00:34 -!- eryc [emiller@198.46.136.99] has quit [Changing host] 00:34 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has joined #se2600 00:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o eryc] by ChanServ 09:26 <@Mirage> has anyone decided to modify a sata backplane in order to plug in sas drives? since the controller connected to the backplane is sas/sata i don't think it will be an issue, but i wanted to see if anyone else had given it a try. 09:28 < xray> SATA drives can be plugged into a SAS back plane but SAS drives can't be plugged into a SATA backplane. You have to swap out the SATA backplane with a SAS backplane. 09:29 < xray> Hmmm. . . maybe not https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-18in-SATA-Cable-Power/dp/B000V72AQ4 09:29 < PigBot> Amazon.com: StarTech.com 18in SAS 29 Pin to SATA Cable with LP4 Power - 18in SAS 29 pin to SATA Cable - 18in SFF 8482 to SATA: Computers & Accessories (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/yxffmew7 09:29 <@Dagmar> Have you looked closely at the things? 09:29 < xray> If that exists maybe there is some kind of adapter sled you can use. 09:30 <@Dagmar> On a SATA drive where the power and data connectors are is side by side 09:30 <@Dagmar> On a SAS drive where the power and data connectors are is also side by side, and the exact same distance apart 09:31 <@Dagmar> ...except the 3-4mm gap between them is not a gap. The plastic pieces are connected 09:31 <@Dagmar> So... you basically can't connect SATA cables to a SAS drive without "downgrading" it using a dremel 09:35 < xray> https://www.amazon.com/2-5in-SATA-3-5in-Drive-Converter/dp/B00612XNSW 09:35 < PigBot> Amazon.com: StarTech.com 2.5in SATA/SAS SSD/HDD to 3.5in SATA Hard Drive Converter: Computers & Accessories (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y3q6qrkt 09:36 < xray> https://www.ebay.com/b/Sas-To-Sata-Converter/74941/bn_7023296125 09:36 < PigBot> Sas To Sata Converter for sale | eBay (at www.ebay.com) http://tinyurl.com/y689bwkj 09:37 < xray> I assume this is a server. What kind? I have seen some Dell servers where you can swap out the backplane. 09:54 <@Mirage> Dolemite: which Drobo do you have? 800i? 09:56 <@Mirage> The backplane in this old enclosure jusr has some thin plastic pieces that look like they could be knocked out easily enough in order to be able to insert a SAS drive. Wouldn't be the first time in computing that all you had to do to make something work was take out a small bit of plastic. 09:56 <@Mirage> And one of those "converters" would be useless because then you wouldn't be able to fully insert the drive sleds. 11:53 <@Mirage> WoW Classic Beta - Open Stress test today for anyone that cares 11:58 <@Shadow404> people still play Wow? 11:59 <@Shadow404> i know my ex wife does, which explains a few things. 12:00 < aestetix> do they have anal hooks in WoW? 12:02 <@Dagmar> Honestly, I'm pretty sure a Dremel can be used to convert SAS to SATA 12:03 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I'd prefer to not be mucking around with the HDD connection given the material they use..too prone to breaking in unintended ways, which would be very bad. 12:04 <@Dagmar> What... plastic? 12:04 <@Dagmar> You can ask Ben. I was kinda pissed when I finally got around to looking at them closely 12:04 <@Dagmar> It's literally a 2mm gap you'd need to burr into the plastic 12:04 <@Mirage> I think pulling the backplane out of my enclosure and just breaking off the small, thin pieces between the power/data portions of the connector is a safer way to go. 12:05 <@Dagmar> yes that's the part i'm talking about 12:05 <@Dagmar> With SATA there is a gap there so the connector can fully enclose both tabs 12:05 <@Mirage> Oh, yell, no dremel required, just small needle-nose or hemostats 12:06 <@Dagmar> With SAS, the power and data are one piece, which fully-encloses the two tabs which are now simply joined in the middle by a dumb bit of plastic 12:06 <@Dagmar> I woudlnt' dare use pliers or hemostats unless it was already cut 12:06 <@Mirage> the "filler" is three small vanes of plastic about the thickness of a piece of paper or less 12:07 <@Mirage> on the backplane. 12:07 <@Dagmar> Wow. Someone was real damn stingy with the injection molded plastic there 12:08 <@Dagmar> That sounds like you could break it out pretty easily 12:08 <@Mirage> what do you expect in a world of "make it cheaper and charge more for it" coporate mentality? 12:10 <@Mirage> I went to Nissan last week to order a part for my old Z. As per usual some asshat salesman comes practically running out to "greet" me with a hearty..."time to replace that old Z? I can help you with a new 370!" 12:11 <@Mirage> So I asked him, "Can you guarantee that a 370Z will go for 500k+ miles and still be running in 35 years?" 12:11 <@Mirage> At that point I think he figured out that he'd fucked up even thinking about talking to me, so he just laughed, said "Yeah, right..." 12:19 <@Dagmar> I'll be buying replacement parts for my car for that long easily 12:19 <@Dagmar> Just as long as OfficeMax is around I'll be able to keep buying them too 12:19 <@Dagmar> ...or basically anyplace that sells large rubber bands 12:33 <@Mirage> a new mount perfect for Pig.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s5eiTgb-mc 12:33 < PigBot> New Mount: Hogrus, Swine of Good Fortune! (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yymmaypo 13:17 <@Evilpig> i'd ride that 13:20 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 13:22 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:24 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxfllfniszshzypn] has joined #se2600 14:03 <@Mirage> hrm, didn't know this.. SATA r/w is half-duplex and SAS is full-duplex. 14:35 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@66-38-50-114.pool.dsl.duo-county.com] has joined #se2600 15:40 <@eryc> "serial" 16:14 <@Mirage> What about it...both are "Serial " 17:52 <@eryc> k 23:41 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 23:41 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Thu Jun 20 00:00:09 2019