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07:13 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:15  * Shadow404 pushes aestetix to the side
07:15  * Shadow404 hugs Dolemite 
07:17 < aestetix> I was gonna hug Dolemite, but then I realized I was about to hug Shadow404. Have you gained weight by chance, Shadow404?
07:17 < aestetix> 15-20 pounds? ;)
07:20 <@Shadow404> yeppers, i mean, over what is 7 years?
07:20 <@Shadow404> im actually right in the middle of my ideal height/weight range
07:21 <@Shadow404> though, i could do better on the fitness side of things...
07:23 <@Shadow404> shit, more than 7 years actually. Hrmmm
07:23 <@Shadow404> 11 or 12 years ago
07:25 <@Shadow404> anyone have experience with the NETGEAR R6700? Reviews are mostly positive.
07:29 <@Corydon76> There seems to be a ton of them, used, on eBay... probably a good sign in terms of longevity, probably not a good sign in terms of performance.
07:30 <@Shadow404> figured it was probably time to replace my WNR1000v3
07:31 <@Shadow404> starting to drop connection and begin flashing on all ports every 30 minutes or so and drops connection for about a minute at a time.
07:32 <@Corydon76> I've soured a bit on Netgear as of late.  We have their professional switches at work, and there isn't a day that goes by that we don't wonder if some network funkiness is due to them.
07:32 <@Corydon76> But I couldn't be happier with Ubiquiti equipment
07:33 <@Shadow404> nice
07:34 <@Shadow404> ok, so i found my online receipt for the WNR1000v3, ive had it since 2012. That wasn't a bad run working 24/7.
07:35 <@Shadow404> and side note, it is OpenWrt Compatible as a side project if it doesnt completely brick it at this point given its starting to drop out.
07:36 <@Shadow404> like during a openwrt firmware flash it resets and bricks itself
07:37 <@Corydon76> Given that it's spontaneously rebooting, I'd say the flash is likely to fail
07:37 <@Shadow404> me too
07:37 <@Corydon76> Unless the air vents are just clogged with dust and/or pet hair
07:38 <@Shadow404> nope, checked that, not hot to the touch. And used an air compressor just to make sure.
07:38 <@Shadow404> its in a cooled cabinent, so that negates that. Has continual fan driven air passing through from a cold room
07:39 <@Corydon76> Yeah, then it's most likely the flash hardware failing at EoL.
09:15 <@opticron> yeah, I'm pretty happy with my ubiquiti stuff as well, but I hear good things about microtik
09:15 <@opticron> *mikrotik
09:16 <@opticron> so if you don't want the pretty managed interface, definitely take a look at them
09:18 <@Corydon76> There are people who don't like having a single managed interface that instantly populates across the wireless infrastructure?  Who are these heathens?
09:19 <@opticron> yeah, there's a ridiculous amount of magic they've started packing into these things
09:19 <@opticron> like the ability to add a wireless uplink from the interface
09:19 <@Corydon76> And staggered upgrades, so you don't have an outage across the entire enterprise at once?
09:19 <@opticron> just plug that fucker in whereever and click adopt
09:22 <@Corydon76> There is an interesting physical plant that I want to explore further, which is fiber backbone with a transceiver that both converts it back to copper on the far end, but also injects POE, without needing a separate brick.
09:23 <@opticron> so it can go out to a PoE switch or AP and not require additional power?
09:23 <@Corydon76> I'm thinking about using it for Wi-Fi at a campground, where you don't want copper backbone in aerials
09:24 <@Corydon76> They already have aerials everywhere for rope lighting.
09:25 <@opticron> I mean, there's this: https://store.ui.com/collections/fiber/products/ufiber-wifi
09:25 < PigBot>  UFiber WiFi – Ubiquiti Networks  (at store.ui.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2dkqub3
09:26 <@opticron> but that AP might not be the greatest
09:26 <@opticron> similar:https://store.ui.com/products/ufiber-nano-g
09:26 < PigBot>  UFiber Nano G – Ubiquiti Networks  (at store.ui.com) http://tinyurl.com/y4jh2vjd
09:27 <@Corydon76> The biggest problem with doing Wifi backbone is that you need 2.4GHz to go through obstacles efficiently, like trees... yet 2.4GHz is massively overpopulated already
09:29 <@Corydon76> There's only 3 real bands you can use without licensing.  902MHz is a possibility, because it can go through pretty much anything, but that's also its Achilles heel.  It travels for *miles* without stopping, so while it goes through local obstacles, it's also subject to interference from far off transmitters.
09:30 <@Corydon76> And 5 GHz only works as long as there are no obstacles in the way, so you have to plan for wind moving tree branches, and morons parking their campers between endpoints.
09:30 <@opticron> so the ones I linked might be perfect
09:31 <@Corydon76> What band do they use?
09:31 <@opticron> 2.4 only
09:31 <@Corydon76> So overcrowded bands...
09:31 <@opticron> yes
09:31 <@opticron> but out in a camp ground, it shouldn't be THAT bad, right?
09:32 <@opticron> they're also GPON and not SFP
09:32 <@Corydon76> I could probably try it and see how well it works.  $70 isn't bad.
09:33 <@opticron> and I know nothing about GPON vs normal fiber
09:34 <@opticron> https://www.perle.com/products/media-converters/poe-media-converters.shtml
09:34 < PigBot> PoE Media Converter | Fiber to Copper PoE Media Converter | Perle (at www.perle.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6ht2d6x
09:34 <@opticron> probably closer to what you'd want: https://www.perle.com/products/10-100-1000-poe-industrial-converters.shtml
09:34 <@Corydon76> I wonder how friendly that is to outdoor (read:wet) environments
09:34 < PigBot> 10-100-1000 PoE Industrial Converter | Copper to Fiber | Perle (at www.perle.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5tse4yo
09:35 <@opticron> also a good question
09:35 <@opticron> ugh, that smaller fiber/PoE/eth converter is $260
09:35 <@opticron> yikes
09:36 <@opticron> https://www.ui.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/
09:37 < PigBot> Ubiquiti Networks - Fiber PoE Accessory (at www.ui.com) http://tinyurl.com/y3fw2hvt
09:38 <@Corydon76> Yeah, that's what I was talking about.  Fiber transceiver and POE injector in one.
09:38 <@opticron> good god that's cheap compared to the other stuff
09:38 <@Corydon76> And outdoor-friendly
09:39 <@opticron> yeah
09:40 <@Corydon76> Also check out the UFiber Loco: https://store.ui.com/collections/routing-switching/products/ufiber-loco
09:40 < PigBot>  UFiber Loco – Ubiquiti Networks  (at store.ui.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2tpqt8z
09:40 <@Corydon76> Looks like it takes microUSB for power
09:41 <@opticron> or a PoE injector, but the output PoE is dumb
09:41 <@opticron> only does 24V or 50V
09:41 <@opticron> that's why it's so cheap
09:41 <@Corydon76> Might need a beefy microUSB cable for outside, but still...
09:44 <@Corydon76> Probably will need the UFiber Wifi just because it has mounting holes, but still...
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13:37 <@Mirage>  love how old stuff being reintroduced is regarded as new, wonderous, and cutting edge.
13:37 <@Mirage> https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725113252/my-driveway-my-rules-some-chevys-wont-go-temporarily-until-teen-drivers-buckle-u
13:37 < PigBot> Some New Chevrolet Models Temporarily Won't Move Until Teen Drivers Buckle Up : NPR (at www.npr.org) http://tinyurl.com/y3ue5849
13:38 <@Mirage> So far as I rember, in order to start my grandpa's early 80's diesel rabbit the seat belt had to be buckled..
13:45 <@Shadow404> At this point im highly doubting that my new router will arrive today "same day delivery" from amazon. Still shows shipped, not "out for delivery" and they say by 9pm.....success rate has been about 50% over 6 packages
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19:12 <@Shadow404> tis succeessful, so much faster.
19:12 <@Shadow404> https://imgur.com/a/q1hXKyb
19:12 < PigBot>  New router. So purdy. - Album on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6eblljd
19:15 <@Shadow404> had no idea this had open vpn built in either, woot woot
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