--- Log opened Fri Mar 29 00:00:54 2019 02:24 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 02:27 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:27 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 03:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:27 < xray> opening night of what? 07:01 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:22 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 08:17 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 08:19 * xray does a happy dance because his new phone is in the Android One program and got a patch direct from Google this morning. 08:20 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:33 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 08:37 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:10 < aestetix> looks like it's gonna be a hard brexit 10:14 <@oddball> That's what happens when the folks in charge of it don't want it to happen. 10:15 <@oddball> I saw people talking about wanting to hold a second referendum over it *yesterday*. 10:17 < xray> Is this like kids asking for ice cream. No is not final until I ask an infinite number of times and the parents cave in and say yes. 10:18 < xray> I tried that with my parents. It didn't go as planned. 10:18 <@oddball> pretty much 10:20 < aestetix> haha 10:20 < aestetix> The issue with the second referendum idea is.... why not also allow a third and a fourth? 10:20 <@oddball> The short of it is that the Parliment never wanted Brexit, but went for the referendum with the smug attitude of "well, everyone will vote the correct way, and we'll just keep business as usual." 10:20 < xray> We should have a system like in the James Bond movie. When James failed at a game he got an electrical shock, and if he didn't quit it would eventual reach lethal levels. If we did re-votes the same way (if you are on the losing side you get a big jolt) then it might change this tactic. 10:21 <@oddball> aestetix: Yeah, a second referendum doesn't do anything but send a clear message that the first one shouldn't count, because it didn't go the way you wanted. 10:22 < xray> Or parents can step in an explain in braille that no really means no. 10:22 < aestetix> Like, if they wanted to do a Brexit recount, I'd be ok with that. 10:22 < aestetix> But that's totally different. 10:23 < xray> I wouldn't just on principle. And the MP's need to understand that they represent the constituents and not themselves. 10:23 -!- ^020d [~^020d@108-192-158-126.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:23 < aestetix> Right, I'm just saying, a recount wouldn't *change* anything 10:23 < xray> But since when do politicians do that? 10:24 < aestetix> I mean it might recover a few lost ballots here and there, but there would be no new votes, etc 10:24 < xray> You mean a recount. 10:25 < xray> I get it now. Nothing wrong with a recount except there comes a point where the vote has to be certified and there are laws that state when that happens. Once that is done. It's done. 10:25 < aestetix> right 10:26 < aestetix> But a recount is a totally valid way to question a vote without quesitoning the system 10:26 < xray> That is the same issue with the EU copyright vote. Some reps pushed the wrong button and wanted to take it back. Yeah, no. Pay attention there is a test. 10:27 < aestetix> You mean they decided they pushed the wrong button after they got angry comments at them on twitter ;) 10:27 < xray> Yes it is and there is a process for that. They chose not to use it within the time limit. So no recount now. Otherwise the rules don't matter and you can just have a re-vote. 10:28 < xray> I have not idea why they said they pushed the wrong button. But the pay attention comment still applies. Pay attention to your constituents. 10:29 < xray> Why is is my job expects excellence but politicians can be completely inept and no one has a problem with that. 10:29 < aestetix> yep 10:29 < aestetix> Like judges who say they disagree with the sentence they are handing out, but they must follow the law 10:29 <@Dolemite> Because they only have to be qualified for a very small amount of time 10:29 < xray> I expect the same level of excellence as is expected of me. 10:30 <@Dolemite> As long as they can sponsor a bill that is beloved by their constituency, they can keep praising it at election time while ignoring all of the stupid shit they did 95% of the time 10:30 < xray> I question if they are qualified at all. In my field qualified == competent. 10:31 < aestetix> xray: you don't have to be qualified, just more qualified than the other guy 10:31 < xray> Dolemite: I totaly agree. 10:32 < xray> aestetix: Really, and how should I judge that. If politicians had to undergo the same interviewing process I did I think there would be a "non of the above" option on the ballot. 10:32 < xray> Nice try but I'm not accepting these candidates. Re-post the job position. 10:36 < aestetix> well you can write in candidates 10:37 < aestetix> I mean that's how we're gonna elect Dolemite 10:37 <@opticron> awww, you ruined the surprise 10:38 -!- ^020d [~^020d@108-192-158-126.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:40 < xray> LoL except there are people with the name "none of the above" so there needs to be an option that has been defined as not applying to a real person. 10:41 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rioofvlebsjrqzhu] has joined #se2600 10:41 < xray> By the way the person changed their name to "none of the above" so they could be elected on a write in. 10:47 < aestetix> hahaha 11:17 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mbpkrmmlqlasnhyc] has joined #se2600 11:17 <@Corydon76> In Tennessee (and potentially in other states), while you can technically write in any person's name, it's useless, because under state law, ballots which cast a vote for a non-bonafide candidate are not counted. 11:18 <@Corydon76> In other words, if you're not a declared candidate (in which case, you'd be on the ballot), then nobody can vote for you. 13:11 < aestetix> So how do we declare Dolemite a candidate? 13:14 <@Corydon76> I *believe* we have a requirement that the candidate sign an affadavit saying that he intends to run and serve, if elected. 13:14 < aestetix> I'm sure at least one of you knows how to write 13:15 < aestetix> so that's taken care of 13:15 <@Corydon76> And then, after that, the candidate's committee needs to collect a certain number of signatures from either a certain number of registered voters, or a percentage based upon the statewide count of the last election. 13:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 13:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 13:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 13:16 <@Corydon76> But the requirements are generally up to the county government. 13:17 < aestetix> Ok, so we can set up a change.org petition 13:18 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:19 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 13:20 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21 <@oddball> wow. It's bad when C-Span is calling you an idiot. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4788257/betsy-devos-explains-benefits-larger-class-sizes 13:21 < PigBot> Betsy DeVos Explains Benefits of Larger Class Sizes | C-SPAN.org (at www.c-span.org) http://tinyurl.com/y5f6f2x6 13:23 < aestetix> benefits which include.... lower heat bill becaues more bodies are in the room? 13:23 <@Corydon76> If there ever was a person with whom asking her advice and then automatically doing the opposite would make sense, it would be Betsy Devos. 13:24 <@Corydon76> I don't think there's any action that she's taken that wasn't in pursuit of her getting another big yacht or house. 13:24 < aestetix> oh wow 13:24 < aestetix> oddball: that video is awful 13:24 < xray> Like when Hank Johnson thought Guam would capsize if they stationed the Marine ready action force and support staff there. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tipping-point/ 13:24 < PigBot> FACT CHECK: Guam Reaches the Tipping Point? (at www.snopes.com) http://tinyurl.com/y5zanra4 13:25 <@Corydon76> xray: she's not stupid, though. She's just evil. 13:26 < aestetix> oddball: why did you post that. I was having such a nice day 13:26 <@oddball> I needed to share the misery 13:28 <@Corydon76> I mean, what else can you say about a woman who is advocating for cutting funds to the Special Olympics? 13:29 <@Mirage_> the special olympics is a private organization (so far as I know)...why are they getting funding in the first place? 13:30 <@Corydon76> It's a nonprofit 13:31 < xray> The implication is that all non-profits get government funding so the special olympics should be to? 13:32 <@Mirage_> Of couse I also have a special kind of hate for them because back when I was in middle/jr high I participated in a competition called "Olympics of the Mind", which was a world-wide thing. At least in the US they had to change the name to something else ("Odyssey of the Mind") because they were sued by the Special Olympics 13:32 < xray> or just saying that private organization != non=profit? 13:32 < aestetix> Mirage_: I remember that org 13:32 < aestetix> Odyssey of the Mind 13:32 < aestetix> I had some friends in it 13:33 <@Corydon76> Mirage_: No, you were sued by the USOC, the actual Olympics 13:33 <@Corydon76> The Special Olympics doesn't own the term, but uses it under special license from the USOC. 13:33 <@Mirage_> aestetix: we went to nationals twice in high school for the "structure" competition 13:34 <@Mirage_> Corydon76: the notice thing we were shown that had been sent out from them stated Special Olympics. 13:35 <@Corydon76> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey_of_the_Mind#Other_information 13:35 < PigBot> Odyssey of the Mind - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/zzydqlz 13:36 <@Mirage_> yeah...guess i'm mis-remembering after 30+ years it occurred. 13:39 <@Corydon76> At one time, there was a competition of gay athletes, and they used the term Gay Olympics and subsequently were sued. Under protest, they changed their name to the Gay Games. 13:39 <@Corydon76> The International Olympic Committee has always fiercely protected the Olympic name. 13:41 <@Mirage_> with the PC shift toward gay/lesbian I wonder if they would have looked the other way on that one if it'd been more recent 13:42 <@Corydon76> Rare moment of bipartisan support, the bill funding the Special Olympics in the US passed Congress with unanimous support in both Houses. 13:43 <@Mirage_> yeah...no politician wants to go on record opposing anything for "special" children 13:43 <@Mirage_> i'm not suprised at all 13:43 <@Corydon76> But hey, Betsy Devos needs another yacht, so let's cut the funding. 14:18 < aestetix> Maybe Trump can declare an emergency to route funds for her 14:37 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 14:40 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:45 <@Corydon76> Anybody else ever do two levels of wildcards in DNS? 14:47 <@Corydon76> I'm curious how straightforward it is. I'm thinking I need a wildcard for an NS record that points back to the same BIND server, so that the wildcard at the 4th level points to the 5th level, where a wildcard A record is the final destination. 14:47 <@Corydon76> I'm trying to resolve *.*.foo.example.com all to the same (development) host. 14:48 <@Corydon76> I'm doing this so I can create branches my revision control system, and checkouts just automatically work to create new served pages. 14:49 <@Corydon76> In Apache, it's a lot of RewriteRule's and a VirtualDocumentRoot with variables 14:50 <@Corydon76> I've done this at a single wildcard level before, and it's really rather nice 14:52 <@Corydon76> trunk.dev.example.com is the original... Now I'm working with a domain that defines a separate customer at the 3rd level, i.e. demo.example.com and customer.example.com, so I want to make it as trunk.demo.dev.example.com and branch.demo.dev.example.com, etc. 14:53 <@Corydon76> And I never have to change Apache or reload. Just checkout a branch at a particular place in the filesystem, and I immediately have the ability to throw URLs at that directory without changing anything. 15:02 <@Evilpig> not sure how bind would handle that but you shoudl be able to put *.* as your host name and it work 15:16 <@Corydon76> Apache isn't the issue. But we're running Windows DNS at our site, and Windows decided that an asterisk needed to literally be typed in to resolve. 15:16 <@Corydon76> host foo.bar.dev.example.com didn't resolve, but "*.*.dev.example.com" did. 15:17 <@Corydon76> Thanks, Windows, that's clearly what I wanted. 15:27 <@Evilpig> lol 15:28 <@Evilpig> that's comical. bind will take an asterisk 15:29 <@Evilpig> a quick google looks like it will take an asterisk as a record, so you might ahve to make a subzone as * and then another record under that for * 15:29 <@Evilpig> maybe it's being strict about host.sub and wanting a real subzone 15:32 <@Evilpig> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/477b134a-84aa-4a80-a4bc-b418de437a97/multilevel-wildcard-catchall-dns-setup-domaincom-gt-one-ipcname?forum=winserverNIS 15:32 < PigBot> Multi-level wildcard (catch-all) DNS setup *.*.domain.com => one IP/CNAME (at social.technet.microsoft.com) http://tinyurl.com/y2ueu7eg 15:32 <@Evilpig> seems that is the answer. 17:12 -!- doc_ [~doc@107.242.120.23] has joined #se2600 17:12 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19 -!- doc_ [~doc@107.242.120.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21 -!- doc_ [~doc@107.242.120.47] has joined #se2600 17:34 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 17:37 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:38 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 17:38 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:48 -!- doc__ [~doc@mobile-107-77-164-21.mobile.att.net] has joined #se2600 17:51 -!- doc_ [~doc@107.242.120.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:44 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 18:47 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:48 -!- doc__ [~doc@mobile-107-77-164-21.mobile.att.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49 -!- doc__ [~doc@mobile-107-77-164-21.mobile.att.net] has joined #se2600 18:50 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 18:54 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14 -!- doc__ is now known as DrArkaneX 20:14 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@mobile-107-77-164-21.mobile.att.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:14 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 20:36 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mbpkrmmlqlasnhyc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:06 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Mar 30 00:00:56 2019