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06:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:25  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:25  * Shadow404 shoves aestetix aside
06:25  * Shadow404 sneaks in and hugs Dolemite first
06:28 < aestetix> Shadow404: I left you a present
06:28 < aestetix> but you have to find where on Dolemite's body it's hidden
06:28 <@Shadow404> i think ill pass, but thanks for the gesture???
06:29 < aestetix> oh come on. it'll be like digging for treasure
06:29 <@Shadow404> here i got you something
06:29  * Shadow404 hands aestetix a pair of 25 pound dumb-bells
06:29 < aestetix> don't you want to get the lucky charms?
06:33 <@Shadow404> dude, whatever yall do with hide and seek in his belly fat is ya'lls thing. Dont get me involved
06:36 <@Shadow404> however, early morning (i'm guessing afternoon for your) Dolemite snuggles is not to be underestimated.
06:54 <@Shadow404> who was the one having to log all their work hours down to the exact task?
07:07 <@Dolemite> dasunt, if I'm not mistaken
07:12 <@Shadow404> ah, thx
07:13 <@Shadow404> dasunt: have you noticed how it can take 2 or 3 times longer to open a ticket than to do the actual task the ticket is documenting. Even with pre-built templates.
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12:42 <@dasunt> Shadow404: Of course.
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13:00 <@dasunt> It seems like UK's MPs are not so much concerned about the Brexit failure, as much as they are concerned about deflecting any personal blame for that failure.
13:10 <@Shadow404> dasunt: like any good politician
13:25 < K`Tetch> correct, Dagmar
13:25 < K`Tetch> er dasunt
13:25 < K`Tetch> while avoiding actually takign a position
13:25 <@dasunt> Well, Democracies, by definition, select people based on popularlity.
13:26 <@Shadow404> so high school was democratic?
13:26 <@Shadow404> i think it was just a bunch of testosterone fueled jocks
13:26 <@dasunt> All cats have four legs.  My dog has four legs, therefore he is a cat...
13:26 <@dasunt> Or A -> B != B <- A.
13:27 <@dasunt> Er, A -> B != B -> A.
13:28 < aestetix> actually the UK is a great example of a breakdown in democracy at the moment
13:28 < aestetix> IIRC, all the MPs voted remain, but their constituents voted to leave
13:28 <@dasunt> Doesn't mean it is a breakdown.
13:29 < aestetix> Well it depends what you mean by "representation"
13:29 < aestetix> because they are being asked to carry out a task none of them want to do
13:29 <@dasunt> Does a no-deal brexit represent what their constitutants voted for?
13:29 < aestetix> well
13:29 < aestetix> none of them want to do or are able to do
13:30 < aestetix> I don't actually think it's possible for May or anyone to get a deal that can pass parliament
13:31 <@dasunt> Well, as the saying goes, 52% of Britain voted that the government should build a submarine out of cheese.
13:31 <@dasunt> Obviously nobody is going to want the result.
13:31 <@dasunt> https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/1072222352035987456?lang=en
13:31 < PigBot> No Title (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/y4fq5yff
13:31 <@dasunt> "So now, having built a shit cheese submarine, she has to put up with both Labour and Tory Brexiters insisting that a less shit cheese submarine could have been built."
13:31 < aestetix> dasunt: I generally think the EU is awful and dying, but it's better than the alternative, which is war
13:33 <@dasunt> I won't predict the future of the EU.
13:33 <@dasunt> It's still deciding what it'll be.
13:33 < aestetix> yes. I hope it can reform into something workable
13:33 <@dasunt> America managed twice, in different ways.
13:34 < aestetix> yeah but that's different
13:34 < aestetix> and the US is not in very good shape right now
13:34 <@dasunt> The United States failed once, then created a new constitution (under some rather fishy circumstances).
13:34 <@dasunt> Then it failed again, and after the war, we saw increasing federalism.
13:34 < aestetix> but if you're suggesting a united states of europe, I'm 100% opposed to that
13:34 < aestetix> and I don't think it can happen
13:34 <@dasunt> I suspect it must.
13:35 < aestetix> aka the fourth reich
13:35 < K`Tetch> 14:28:24 «aestetix» IIRC, all the MPs voted remain, but their constituents voted to leave <-- WRONG
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13:36 < aestetix> K`Tetch: I was speaking somewhat hyperbolically
13:36 < aestetix> But May certainly voted to remain
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13:36 < aestetix> And I applaud her efforts for trying to carry out an impossible task she doesn't want to do
13:36 < K`Tetch> a pluraity of voters voted to investigate a leave deal, but they were in a minority of constituencies
13:36 <@dasunt> LOL, UK voted to delay Brexit now.
13:36 <@dasunt> Next:  Vote on if the UK should delay the tide.
13:37 < K`Tetch> no-one voted explicitlu to leave at all costs, or even that we must leave
13:37 < xray> Since when are politicians required to vote inline with their constituents?
13:37 < aestetix> xray: that's why I said it hinges on what the word "represent" means
13:37 < K`Tetch> well, most referendums ni the uk have legislation attached that make it binding, this one deliberately did not
13:38 < xray> Represent != voting as directed. It is not the same thing as a proxy.
13:38 < K`Tetch> but there's a lot of lies thrown aroudn about it, like they say it was the biggest vote ever, which it wasn't
13:38 < aestetix> xray: yes I know
13:38 < K`Tetch> the 92 general election had a million more votes cast, which actually meant a 5% greater turnout
13:38 < aestetix> xray: my point is that one can reasonably assume an elite political class that is out of touch with the regular voters
13:39 < K`Tetch> you *could* assume that...
13:39 < K`Tetch> it wouldn't be true, but you're free to make that wrong assumption
13:39 < xray> I totally agree with that. My point is even if they are "in touch" with the masses the still do what is line with their own self interests.
13:39 < K`Tetch> or in this case, with the intersets of the country
13:39 < aestetix> xray: yep
13:39 < K`Tetch> there is ZERO upside tobrexit
13:40 < xray> I spent the last few weeks battling with the GA legislature over HB316.
13:40 < K`Tetch> yeah, 316 was a special kind of stupid
13:41 < xray> Lets just say that it only served to reinforce my poor view of politicians.
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13:42 < K`Tetch_> the uk is a bit different in that there's a strict limit on spending, accounts have to be done WEEKLY, and theres usually only 30 days notice of an electon
13:43 < K`Tetch_> and the last few weeks of the campaign, the parliament has been dissolved, so there's no lame ducking, etc
13:44 < K`Tetch_> anyway, got to run, time for more practice for the musical - t-2 weeks to opening night
13:44 < aestetix> Bis spater
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13:54 < xray> K`Tetch_: HB316 passed by both houses and is header to the Governor.
13:54 < xray> sigh
14:10 <@Evilpig> Workers Compensation - As introduced, changes the date by which the workers' compensation division must produce its report of all the employers that failed to obtain coverage or self-insure during the previous fiscal year from December 31 to December 15. - Amends TCA Title 50.
14:10 <@Evilpig> that doesn't seem like a huge deal
14:11 <@Evilpig> http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/111/Fiscal/HB0316.pdf
14:11 < PigBot> None (at www.capitol.tn.gov) http://tinyurl.com/yyoatape
14:15 < xray> This one http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/Display/20192020/HB/316
14:15 < PigBot>  HB 316 2019-2020 Regular Session  (at www.legis.ga.gov) http://tinyurl.com/y2arvcey
14:16 < xray> The bill is a train wreck with nuclear waste
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15:44 < K`Tetch> yes it is
15:44 < K`Tetch> (sorry, back briefly between rehersals)
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20:00 <@Dagmar> "You Will Soon Be Able To Pay Your Subway Fare With Your Face in China"
20:00 <@Dagmar> Considering all the rumors of black-market organ-trading in China, that headline seems to suggest something rather grim to my eyes
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20:51 <@oddball> They'll punch your ticket?
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