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06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:22  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:28 < aestetix> https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/03/01/political-cartoons-003123?slide=11
06:28 < aestetix> hahah
06:28 < PigBot> The nation’s cartoonists on the week in politics - POLITICO (at www.politico.com) http://tinyurl.com/y42jo8fp
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11:17 <@dasunt> Huh, brewer's yeast has been genetically modified to produce THC and CBD.
11:17  * dasunt always said it was only a matter of time for GMOing a drug source.
11:18 <@dasunt> Who wants to bet the over/under for cocaine-producing yeast?
11:20 <@dasunt> The mini-subs some smugglers use can't be cheap.  Wonder what is the ballpark range to get ecoli to produce cocaine?
11:31 < K`Tetch_> the minisubs aren'tt hat expensive, especailly not to make themselves
11:43 <@dasunt> What's the cost of GMO now?
11:47 < Evilpig_> tomatoes are $.59. ;)
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13:50 <@dasunt> So why does the UK think it can extend Brexit?
13:52 <@oddball> magic pixy dust
13:52 <@Corydon76> They invented it, so they're free to redefine it.
13:53 <@oddball> Until the politicians figure out how to fix their mistake of actually asking what the people want.
13:53 <@Corydon76> We know what they want.  The politicians simply can't get the EU to agree to what the people want.
13:55 <@Corydon76> They want all the good parts of the EU common market and none of the responsibilities.
14:20 <@dasunt> Sure.  But why would the EU agree to draw this mess out?
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14:56 <@dasunt> So pardon me, but I'm from 2010, and I never used slack.  Is it just glorified IRC?
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15:11 <@opticron> dasunt, for the most part, you can't host your own server and it has a much more user-friendly interface along with chat history
15:11 <@opticron> also, slack workspaces are invite-only
15:12 <@opticron> workspace == server in IRC parlance
15:12 <@dasunt> So like IRC, more closed, but friendly than MIRC?
15:12 <@opticron> yes
15:12 <@opticron> more closed in more than one way
15:13 <@dasunt> Then Discord is something similar as well, correct?
15:13 <@opticron> though people have setup automated systems for some workspaces so you can invite yourself by filling out an email field and pressing a button
15:13 <@opticron> yes
15:13 <@opticron> discord and slack are very similar
15:13 <@dasunt> How can I get millions by reinventing IRC?
15:14 <@opticron> I think slack might actually be running an IRC daemon on the back end (or may have been at one point)
15:14 <@dasunt> LOL.
15:14 <@dasunt> Are both restricted to proprietary clients then?
15:14 <@opticron> there was a direct IRC gateway for slack available until recently
15:15 <@opticron> you can write your own clients for slack, iirc
15:23 <@dasunt> What about discord?
15:23 <@dasunt> Looks like the answer is no.
15:25 <@Corydon76> Discord also has a benefit of unlimited history. On Slack, the lesser used channels might have an empty history, because of the FIFO nature of their history
15:26 <@Corydon76> If you want unlimited history, you have to pay for it.
15:28 < xray> If you want a private conversation you can host your own IRC server with a web client front end. The Lounge https://thelounge.chat/
15:28 < PigBot> The Lounge (at thelounge.chat) http://tinyurl.com/y9nrrwhg
15:29 <@Corydon76> If you want a private conversation, I'd suggest something more like Telegram
15:30 < xray> I meant private as in by invite only. Although it is all open source and you can do it all encrypted.
15:30 < xray> How far you take it is related to your level of paranoia
15:33 < xray> run it all over I2P
15:34 < xray> IRC will run over TLS and The Lounge will work over HTTPS or as I do it, tunneled over SSH.
15:37 <@dasunt>  I just got a "Hope and Prayer" spam call
15:37 <@Corydon76> In this context, I believe you mean 'anxiety' not paranoia.  I'm not paranoid; however, I am quite anxious.
15:38 <@dasunt> Literally the robocall said "This is the hope and prayer center ministry, calling today to see if you need urgent prayer.  If you would like someone from our center to pray for you, please press one"
15:38 <@dasunt> o_O
15:39 <@Corydon76> dasunt: I just keep hitting zero until they hang up
15:40 <@dasunt> Is telegram able to be privately hosted?  If not, aren't you trusting them?
15:40 <@Corydon76> No, and yes.
15:41 <@dasunt> Unless the client is OS and you can see it doing something like private key cryptography...
15:41 <@Corydon76> However, they make several claims as to their security, they're open source, and they're high enough profile that if their claims were bullshit, someone would call them on it.
16:02 <@dasunt> Wikipedia's page has some interesting criticisms.
16:02 <@dasunt> (Sorry, coworker tried to claim that Windows full format does not write 0s to the drive 0 - I had to educate)
16:03 <@dasunt> (And yes, I know, full format still allows some data recovery from bad sectors that were remapped - deal with it)
16:29 <@dasunt> I got the hope and prayers spam call again!
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22:00 <@opticron> Corydon76, I press the right button to get to a person and then try to order a pizza
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