--- Log opened Wed Feb 27 00:00:33 2019
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06:28 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:29  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:53 < aestetix> https://www.c-span.org/video/?458125-1/michael-cohen-testifies-house-oversight-committee&live
08:53 < PigBot> Watch: Michael Cohen Testifies Before House Oversight Panel | C-SPAN.org (at www.c-span.org) http://tinyurl.com/y6borjzo
09:01 <@Dolemite> click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click go the cameras
09:01 <@Dolemite> Don't these so-called MEDIA people know that the future is mirrorless full frame?
09:04 < aestetix> first shots are fired
09:06 <@Dolemite> The rules only matter for committees - not for the President.
09:06 < aestetix> oh man this is great
09:07 < aestetix> gonna bet this is 100% party lines
09:07 <@Dolemite> Wouldn't surprise me
09:07 <@Dolemite> Wasserman-Schultz is still in Congress?
09:08 < aestetix> apparently there is an afterlife for rigging debates
09:08 <@Dolemite> Great googly moogly I would have thought she'd been drummed out of town, already
09:10 < aestetix> I wonder what the chances of two members of congress having a fistfight
09:10 < aestetix> been almost 200 years, about time for a new one
09:10 <@Dolemite> Reinstate the dual
09:10 <@Dolemite> er, duel
09:12 < aestetix> and now 10-20 minutes of circlejerk to "introduce" the witness
09:12 <@Dolemite> yeah, good time to refill the water bottle
09:20 < aestetix> Dolemite: might wanna finish refilling it, cause the drama is picking up again
09:21 <@Dolemite> I wonder how many years after the Clintons are dead and buried before they keep getting linked to everything the R's don't like?
09:22 < aestetix> well to be fair one democrat *is* actually linked to clinton
09:23 <@Dolemite> Wasserman-Schultz definitely is
09:23 < aestetix> right
09:23 <@Dolemite> I find it interesting that the people sitting on the committee are allowed to basically assassinate the character of the witness
09:23 < aestetix> oh man within 20 minutes they brought up the pee pee dossier
09:25 < aestetix> we may be closer to fistfight territory than I thought
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09:26 <@dasunt> So odds on the pee tape being real?
09:26 <@Dolemite> 75% chance
09:26 <@Dolemite> 90% chance it happened, but only 75% chance that it's on tape
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09:33 < aestetix> trying to find a bingo board for this hearing
09:38 <@dasunt> LOL.
09:39 <@dasunt> So Cohen is tossing Trump right under the bus.
09:41 < aestetix> wow, he just used the s-word in congressional testimony
09:42 <@Dolemite> which s-word?   I'm on the phone
09:42 < aestetix> dasunt: I wonder of Cohen is getting a book deal out of this
09:42 < aestetix> Dolemite: the s-hole word
09:42 <@dasunt> aestetix: Sure.
09:42 <@dasunt> But an you profit from you crimes?
09:43 <@dasunt> *your
09:43 < aestetix> the issue is.... I already read his testimony
09:43 < aestetix> and I don't actually see anything illegal in it
09:43 < aestetix> sketchy as shit, but not illegal
09:43 <@dasunt> Some boring campaign finance violations, AFAICT.
09:43 < aestetix> maybe
09:44 < aestetix> no slam dunks though
09:44 < aestetix> and he specifically says he has no evidence of collusion
09:44 <@dasunt> IDK.  I see a pretty easy case to say that Trump violated campaign finance laws with the hush money payments.
09:44 <@dasunt> But that's boring.
09:45 < aestetix> I don't know enough about campaign finance law to know if it's illegal
09:45 < aestetix> and yeah, boring
09:45 <@dasunt> It'll take a lot for the GOP to get rid of Trump, because the GOP knows it'll lose the MAGAnauts.
09:46 < aestetix> and the democrats have nobody good to take him out
09:46 <@dasunt> And Trump, being a rich white old guy supported by the establishment, isn't going to go down for crimes like this.
09:46 <@dasunt> Best the Democrats could do is just keep hitting Trump on being a gifter.  But as I've stated multiple times, the Democrats would need to find their spines for that.
09:46 < aestetix> hold on, supported by what establishment?
09:47 < aestetix> From all accounts, the establishment hates him and has been throwing their all at him for the last three years
09:47 <@dasunt> aestetix: The GOP.  The GOP supports Trump.
09:47 < aestetix> No they don't
09:47 <@dasunt> They may not like to, but they do.
09:47 < aestetix> They tolerate him
09:48 <@dasunt> The GOP could eliminate Trump within several months if it wanted to.  They currently won't, because they know it'll hurt them more than it'll help.
09:48 < aestetix> And there is nobody to replace him
09:49 <@dasunt> There's Pence.
09:51 <@dasunt> nothereisanother.gif
09:51 <@dasunt> But there's nobody else the MAGAnauts will support.
09:52 <@dasunt> Without the MAGAnauts turning out, the GOP has an even harder time.
09:52 < aestetix> no disruptions yet
09:52 < aestetix> I'm hoping at least Code Pink has some protesters
09:53 < Evilpig_> code pink?  one sec
09:53 < Evilpig_> there are no missing children under my desk.
09:53 < aestetix> haha
09:53 <@dasunt> IMO, the GOP is better off doing a purge right now, taking its lumps in 2020, and coming back stronger in 2022 and 2024.
09:53 < aestetix> dasunt: I have a better idea. How about a full purge of congress
09:53 <@dasunt> aestetix: Won't happen.
09:54 < Evilpig_> https://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vumcpub/index.html?pubID=14&articleID=599&TID=1101&filetype=pdf/file.pdf
09:54 < PigBot> None (at www.mc.vanderbilt.edu)
09:54 <@dasunt> The problem with the GOP distancing itself from the far right is that the party's platform tends to appeal a diminishing demographic.
09:55 < aestetix> Evilpig_: https://www.codepink.org/
09:55 < PigBot> CODEPINK (at www.codepink.org)
09:55 <@dasunt> Until that changes (and it must), the GOP is just going to continue to go down the crazy road.
09:55 < aestetix> So are the democrats
09:55 < aestetix> Both parties are getting nuttier
09:56 <@Dolemite> Diminishing in numbers, but because they are spread out so far in the rural areas, they still hold a lot of sway
09:56 <@dasunt> Democrats have a different problem of trying to swing right to win elections, and pissing off their base.
09:56 <@dasunt> Thus people like AOC who took out an established centrist Dem.
09:57 < aestetix> dasunt: no, democrats have a problem of civil war. The moderate sane democrats are having trouble keeping the far-left "socialists" under control
09:57 <@dasunt> Dolemite: I wonder if we'll get a "Southern Republican" party out of this for a few years.
09:57 < aestetix> dasunt: oh ok same thing
09:57 <@dasunt> aestetix: Our "socialists" in the Democratic party are pretty mild, to be honest.  Kind of like a lighter verion of Scandinavia.
09:58 < aestetix> You mean like the supporters of the green new deal? ;)
09:58 < aestetix> gotta take care of the cow farts
09:59 <@Dolemite> Man I had so hoped that the excerpts from the Green New Deal were truly just jokes, but no.   Shit like that ends up turning the entire thing into a laughing stock.
10:00 <@dasunt> Well, it's a sucky term.
10:00 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that, too
10:00 <@dasunt> Democrat could have the best plan (speaking hypothetically) and they'd probably call it the "Butterfly protection act" even if it made everyone a millionaire (again, hypothetically).
10:04 <@dasunt> I should fire up the snow blower right now.
10:05 <@dasunt> And clear out my yard a bit.
10:05 <@dasunt> AFK
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10:37 < aestetix> on a totally unrelated note
10:37 < aestetix> it seems that the NES and SNES classic are totally available now
10:37 < aestetix> no more shortages
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11:12 <@Dolemite> Liar, liar, pants on fire.   An official poster presentation of the US Congress.
11:29 <@dasunt> Back.  Only 90 minutes of shoveling.  Not bad.
11:34 <@dasunt> "Shithole".
11:42 <@Dolemite> Mr. Higgins == Foghorn Leghorn after getting a haircut from Bugs Bunny
11:42 <@Dolemite> er, dammit
11:42 <@Dolemite> not Foghorn Leghorn
11:42 <@Dolemite> Yosemite Sam
11:47 < aestetix> I was afk
11:47 < aestetix> Did I miss AOC?
11:56 <@Dolemite> Dunno, I've been dealing with more occurrences of the network going apeshit and taking out my container storage
11:56 <@Dolemite> This time I have evidence, though
12:30 <@Dolemite> Yosemite is back at the mic!
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14:09 < Evilpig_> on a call with micro$oft talking about how they want us to be in their early adapter program for m$$ql 2019
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16:07 <@brimstone> Evilpig_: which decisions in your life lead you here?
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19:49 <@Dagmar> Dataloss is now enterprise level!
19:49 <@Dagmar> Just remember, Microsoft talked Deloitte & Touche into being early adopters for Exchange
19:50 <@Dagmar> ...and the system rather profoundly failed on deployment day and took the mail team WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK FOR A WEEK to fix it.
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