--- Log opened Mon Feb 04 00:00:58 2019
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07:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:19  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:20 <@Dolemite> web dev doesn't like CI/CD because we took away his ability to directly manipulate the MySQL db through a gui
07:21 <@Dolemite> So he finds a plugin for WordPress that installs a proxy, allowing him to bypass controls
07:21 <@Dolemite> This morning he'll be having a chat
07:21 <@Dolemite> with management about the importance of not circumventing controls that are in place for a reason
07:21 < aestetix> oh nice, so he can run queries on the database directly through wordpress?
07:22 <@Dolemite> Yeah, he tinkers with shit and then blames the pipeline for things not working
07:22 < aestetix> is it readonly or also write access
07:23 <@Dolemite> It's wordpress, so it is read/write, otherwise it wouldn't be much use as a CMS
07:24 <@Corydon76> Sounds like a sense of entitlement, i.e. "those rules are only in place for others, not me"
07:24 <@Dolemite> Pretty much
07:24 <@Dolemite> But you know, stripping it down to the bare minimum required is a valid security strategy.   Reducing vectors for attack and all that.
07:25 <@Corydon76> Until he experiences a problem that is pretty much his own making, he won't become 'woke'
07:25 <@Dolemite> So adding in a plugin to give someone carte blanche access defeats that whole purpose.
07:25 < aestetix> well it's not like wordpress plugins ever have any security issues either
07:26 <@Corydon76> Speaking as a person who used to have that sense of entitlement.
07:26 <@Dolemite> I don't care if he becomes woke or not.   He's going to find out that another violation like this will go straight to cyber, who will initiate HR enforcement.
07:27 <@Dolemite> His group lead tasked me with coming up with a way to stabilize their environment because it was a nightmare to upgrade 80+ sites when a critical vulnerability came out.   Guess what, here's a big chunk of your instability!
07:27 < aestetix> Wait, what does this have to do with being woke
07:27 < aestetix> Is there a connection I don't see?
07:28 <@Dolemite> woke isn't only about social justice, aestetix
07:28 <@Dolemite> It's simply referring to the light bulb going off in his head so that he 'gets it'.
07:28 < aestetix> oh ok
07:28 <@Dolemite> Damn, I just taught a whippersnapper slang
07:29 < aestetix> Well, the only time I've ever heard it used is around SJWs
07:29 < aestetix> and when I asked what it meant, they gave me the SJW answer
07:30 < aestetix> Unless it is some slang from the more mature term "awakening"
07:30 <@Dolemite> Awakening is a film.   Get off my lawn.
07:30 < aestetix> Awakening far predates any film.
07:31 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening
07:31 < PigBot> First Great Awakening - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/jjroltx
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09:03 <@brimstone> ug, Derbycon
09:03 <@brimstone> it's affecting my con in atlanta now
09:04 <@Dolemite> What con in Atlanta?
09:05 <@brimstone> bsides
09:05 <@Dolemite> Ah, cool
09:06 <@Dolemite> How big is the ATL version?   # attendees?
09:06 <@brimstone> ~300 last year, 1 track
09:06 <@brimstone> we're planning more this year, 2 tracks
09:07 <@Dolemite> nice
09:07 <@Corydon76> BSides Atlanta on one day, like Nashville's?
09:07 <@Dolemite> I heard the BNA one is pretty happenin', too
09:07 <@brimstone> yeah, single day
09:07 <@Corydon76> Nashville has 3 tracks, but an issue with space.
09:07 <@dasunt> Less than one hour into my work day and someone already fell for a phishing attack.
09:08 <@Dolemite> Knoxville doesn't really have much for a bsides, but it has grown a rather successfull conference called Codestock.
09:08 <@Corydon76> Red track for offense, Blue track for defense, and Green track for newbies/general topics.
09:13 <@Evilpig> dasunt: you could be like us and our wonderful exchange/collab/email/skype group has skype fucked up again so nobody can log on
09:13 <@Evilpig> i've already missed two meetings this morning due to lack of phones
09:14 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I wouldn't say that you _missed_ them
09:14 <@Evilpig> doing a poc in one of them, I was enjoying that
09:14 <@Dolemite> poop of concept on a Monday morning
09:15 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: How was the hotel you and NL stayed at last year for GeekNIC?
09:16 <@Dolemite> Mirage is asking about plans for this year.   I wouldn't mind trying the spot next door.
09:16 <@Dolemite> Also we have indooro snow tubing in Pigeon Forge, now.   It opened right around this time last year.
09:17 <@Evilpig> we liked it
09:17 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Oh, I'm sure the day will evolve to some more shinannigans.
09:17 <@Evilpig> the pool was nice
09:18 <@Evilpig> it was an indoor/outdoor combined pool
09:18 <@Dolemite> Yeah
09:18 <@Dolemite> I like those
09:19 <@dasunt> Speaking of cluster fucks, one week ago the vet told us that our cat was no longer diabetic and didn't need insulin.
09:19 <@Dolemite> So was the original diagnosis the clusterfuck, or the new one?
09:19 <@Dolemite> Because that could go either way
09:19 <@dasunt> Oh, it's great.r
09:20 <@Evilpig> could have been a change from super fat cat -> skinny and the symptoms go down
09:20 <@dasunt> The emergency vet completely disagreed about the cat's need for insulin.
09:20 <@dasunt> Btw, kitty ICU costs $600/day.  <_<
09:21 <@dasunt> This is going to be one expensive vet bill.
09:21 <@Dolemite> Fuck that noise
09:21 <@Dolemite> Time to move and leave no forwarding address
09:21 <@dasunt> LOL.  They expect 75% down.
09:21 <@Evilpig> sorry for your cat, but fuck that
09:21 <@dasunt> Wife loves the cat, so we're paying.
09:21 <@Evilpig> a new identity will be cheaper
09:22 < aestetix> brimstone: what con? and how is derbycon affecting it
09:22 < aestetix> oh bsides
09:22 <@Evilpig> get the right ID and you can likely get a free trip to mexico with it
09:22 <@dasunt> Now note that I was skeptical about the whole "the cat is no longer diabetic".  But I brought up my objections, the vet dismissed them, and I figured the vet knew more than I did.
09:23 <@dasunt> I should say "our ex-vet", since she's no longer ever going to see that cat again, and is lucky this is not going to small claims court.
09:24 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: back on the hotel, it also had a river side with balconies.  we were on the backside with a small balcony overlooking the pool which was amusing
09:24 <@Evilpig> I'd do it again
09:26 <@dasunt> Oooh, and as the cherry to my day, our SAAS ticketing system upgraded to a new UI designed by groups of people who sat in a committee and looked at screenshots but never actually used the ticketing system from day to day.
09:31 <@Dolemite> Well Mirage is now saying that timing may not work out for this year, anyway
09:32 <@Dolemite> Maybe we try for one in the fall?
09:41 <@Mirage> I'm still waiting on the next Current River trip...
09:46 <@Corydon76> If you schedule it for June, you can be nearly certain I won't be able to attend.
09:47 <@Corydon76> I have a trip up North and the regional Waze meetup in June.
09:49 <@Evilpig> yeah i'm wanting another current river trip too.  the cabins that we stayed in last are still under repair and aren't set to really get going til 2020
10:06 <@dasunt> What do you guys do?  Just stay in a cabin?
10:07 <@Corydon76> ...and get on Grindr...
10:07 <@dasunt> What happens at the current river stays at the current river?
10:08 <@Corydon76> Hopefully
10:10 <@dasunt> I still can't schedule my May 2019 canoe trip.  :(  Site has continued to be down.
10:12 <@Evilpig> dasunt: years ago we rented a couple of cabins close to each other and a large group of us went up and "camped" for a weekend and did a float trip down current river
10:12 <@Evilpig> that ended up with my favorite pic of notlarry, the one I use as his contact to this day
10:13 <@Evilpig> https://photos.app.goo.gl/88NTZc5hZi2LNFds8
10:13 < PigBot> Shared album - Wilbur Longwisch - Google Photos (at photos.app.goo.gl) http://tinyurl.com/yachmzyh
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10:48 <@Dolemite> Ha!   So the dev that I was referring to this morning keeps asking my underling/Tier2 to help resolve an issue - my Tier2 keeps adding me back into his responses, and the dev keeps removing me (yet leaving all the others).   Talk about some guilty behavior.
10:54 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: if you create his plugin directory name as empty, then set it as immutable, you could have some interesting frustration by the dev.
10:55 <@Corydon76> Just some fun things that most people don't know about.
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12:35 <@Mirage> Evilpig: and that pick has my arm in it...which is evident my the Swatch watch
12:35 <@Mirage> er, that pic
12:35 < K`Tetch> woo, swatch, where the time is 1986!
12:36 <@Mirage> K`Tetch: not a damned thing wrong with wearing a swath, tyvm
12:41 < K`Tetch> oh I know. I always wanted one when I was 8
12:41 < K`Tetch> :-P
12:44 <@Evilpig> haha
12:45 <@Evilpig> Mirage: all I'm saying is can you point to a better picture that captures the essence of NotLarry better?
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13:24 <@Mirage> Evilpig: so when are you getting google fiber?
13:26 <@Evilpig> possibly april
13:26 <@Evilpig> they're installing all the demarc stuff in the buildings now.  then they have to come back and run the trunk, bury the trunk, test
13:34 <@Mirage> contact them and tell them you'd be more than happy to get hooked up for the testing phase to better test with a load
13:36 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Please don't say 'load' in reference to EvilPig's internet connection.   Those types of images can't be bleached from the brain.
13:50 <@Evilpig> I've made that very clear
14:04 <@Mirage> for a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5cEik2ABY
14:04 < PigBot> Double Your Internet Speed for Free (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/czxen3t
14:10 <@Mirage> At least in the description he states "NOTE - This video is a joke"
15:30 <@Mirage> Damn Girl Scouts and their evil cookies..
15:30 < K`Tetch_> GRrr, that feeling when you get a call at lunch, go to do a quick touch base call back, and end up walking around the restaurant car park for 45 minutes
15:32 <@Mirage> Last time that happened to me was my uncles birthday.  Got a call pretty much immediately after ordering and didn't get off until they were done eating and ready to leave.
15:33 < K`Tetch_> this was a 212 number, I waited until I was done, went to touch base, and organise a call back
15:34 < K`Tetch_> (was a new yorker reporter, ended up spending 25 minutes talkign on wikileaks, just as a sidebar)
15:34 <@Mirage> i was on call and shit was broke
15:41 < dfused> my find foo is weak these days... can someone assist? ... i have /var/log/something ... with folder under let;s say /var/log/something/dir1 /var/log/something/dir2 ... I want to nuke all under /var/log/something, leave dir1 still there but also delete all files under dir1
15:42 < dfused> i was using find /var/log/something/* -daystart -mtime +1 -delete ...... but I wanna leave that dir1 in there
15:42 <@brimstone> so just keep dir1 in /var/log/something ?
15:42 <@Mirage> rm -rf <path to directory>/*
15:43 <@Mirage> or find <path to directory>/ -exec rm -rf {} \;
15:43 <@brimstone> mv what you don't want to keep to somewhere else and then rm -rf the directory
15:43 <@brimstone> the directory of stuff you don't want to keep
15:43 <@brimstone> so you can eyeball everything you're deleting
15:43 < dfused> trying to keep it oneliner for cron
15:44 <@brimstone> getting clever with find -delete is footgun territory
15:44 <@Mirage> just files or files and directories?
15:44 < dfused> lol  yeah I thought about just leaving to nuke the main folder, then pipe to mkdir
15:44 <@brimstone> but if you need a weapon, try `find /var/log/something -path /var/log/something/dir1 -prune -o -delete`
15:44 <@Mirage> find <path to directory> -type f -ctime <age in days to start deleting> -exec rm -f {} \;
15:45 <@brimstone> why -exec rm and not -delete?
15:45 <@Mirage> brimstone: because that's how i've always done it?
15:45 <@brimstone> gotcha
15:46 < dfused> yeah there is arg over using -exec cause extra proc but pfft ..these days doesnt really matter
15:47 <@brimstone> if you want extra proc, then -print0 | xargs -0 -P64 rm -f
15:47 <@brimstone> that's how you get extra procs
15:47 < dfused> lolol
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16:00 <@Mirage> just looOoooOove this weather roller coaster.  today it hit 83, low was 65...thurs they're forecasting ~40 high and 24 low
16:19 <@dasunt> LOL.
16:19 <@dasunt> We get freezing rain.  Which then sticks around.
16:27 < dfused> so the good news is that find /var/log/rsyslog/* -not -name dir2 -delete  ....will delete all under rsyslog except the folder called dir2 but will also delet all files UNDER dir2 as I wanted.
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