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02:19 < aestetix> ok so
02:19 < aestetix> maybe one of you knows law better than me
02:19 < aestetix> https://onsizzle.com/i/five-more-days-in-just-five-more-days-800-000-non-essential-c3c019cdcf8642b9bd82adba09ee0e2c
02:19 < PigBot> FIVE MORE DAYS! In Just Five More Days 800000 Non-Essential Government Workers Can Be Legally Furloughed Ie Let Go Forever It Is Technically Called a RIF Reduction in Force All of Which Begs the Questions if They Are Non-Essential Why Were They Employed in the First Place and Why Have the American Taxpayers Been Paying People Who Were Not Needed All These Many Years? The Truth Is That Many of These Non-Essential Employees Are SES Members Senior Executive Service
02:20 < aestetix> is this true
03:00 < aestetix> https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-shutdown/2019/01/furloughed-feds-wont-be-rifed-if-government-shutdown-extends-past-30-days-omb-says/
03:00 < PigBot> Furloughed feds won't be RIFed if government shutdown extends past 30 days, OMB says - Federal News Network (at federalnewsnetwork.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya5ups3s
03:00 < aestetix> apparently not true
05:11 <@brimstone> all of the contracts will get laid off though, just like last year
05:11 <@brimstone> two years ago?
06:05 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:32  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:01 <@Dolemite> https://boingboing.net/2019/01/17/trump-lawyer-rudolph-giuliani.html
07:01 < PigBot> Trump lawyer Rudolph Giuliani insists they never denied collusion with Russia / Boing Boing (at boingboing.net)
07:02 <@Dolemite> God damn everybody involved with Trump must have been cultured in a laboratory from a sample of the devil's bowel movements
07:02 <@Dolemite> Giuliani exemplifies that
08:12 <@dasunt> Supposedly, Giuliani wants out.
08:19 <@Dolemite> What the fuck is it going to take for him to get let loose?   He's pretty much painted Trump as guilty, time and time, again.
08:19 <@Dolemite> Yet, she persisted.
08:21 <@dasunt> I think you are ignoring one very important bit:  What about Hillary's emails?
08:21 <@dasunt> Checkmate, libtard.
08:24 <@Dolemite> Benghazi
08:24 <@Dolemite> Already been posted in a discussion on FB this morning
08:28 < aestetix> https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425792-rand-paul-suggests-holding-state-of-the-union-in-senate
08:28 < PigBot> Rand Paul suggests holding State of the Union in Senate | TheHill (at thehill.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9mocxcz
08:28 < aestetix> You all will understand what I'm about to say
08:29 < aestetix> it seems that both the US and UK are in a situation that one might call a Seldon crisis
08:29 <@Dolemite> Is that German for Clusterfuck?
08:29 < aestetix> It's from Foundation
08:30 < aestetix> the Asimov series
08:30 < aestetix> ala Hari Seldon
08:30 <@Dolemite> Never made it through that
08:30 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seldon_Crisis
08:30 < PigBot> Seldon Crisis - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
08:31 < aestetix> I'm not that into scifi (and to be fair Foundation, at least book one, is badly written)
08:31 < aestetix> but it's a brilliant concept
08:34 <@Corydon76> The Seldon Plan requires those influenced under the Plan to be unaware of its predictions
08:35 <@Corydon76> Because to know its predictions may influence your decisions
08:36 <@Corydon76> All in all, it's a fascinating 5-book series, and there's a big reveal at the end of Book 5, Foundation and Earth.
08:36 < aestetix> please no spoilers
08:36 < aestetix> I've only read the first book
08:36 < aestetix> and that was..... more than a few years ago
08:36 <@Shadow404> at least i just found out that today, that se2600 is indeed not the only channel to contain grammar nazi's
08:36 <@Dolemite> I'm sure Wilipedia can spoil it for the rest of us
08:36 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: is wilipedia a new wiki site?
08:36 <@Dolemite> wikipedia
08:37 <@Corydon76> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_and_Earth
08:37 < PigBot> Foundation and Earth - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
08:37 <@Dolemite> Also, your previous statement is full of errors, but I gave up on you many years ago
08:38 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: see, i purposely wrote that phrase in hopes you'd say something
08:38 <@Shadow404> just to further my point
08:38 <@Shadow404> :)
08:38 <@Shadow404> thanks for playing
08:38 <@Dolemite> Would a grammar nazi be a spell checker for slack channels?
08:39 <@Corydon76> I have rules, now, for correcting grammar.  I only do it when either a) the grammar is so atrocious that I can't tell what someone meant to say, or b) the person attempts to correct their grammar and gets it wrong (because in attempting the correction, they're communicating that they care about the rules).
08:40 < aestetix> Shadow404: is that because I said Asimov was a crap writer?
08:40 <@Shadow404> aestetix: seperate channel
08:41 < aestetix> oh
08:41 <@NotLarry> aestetix: I just have trouble calling actual writers crap writers.
08:41 <@Shadow404> Corydon76: those are acceptable terms
08:41 <@Dolemite> Have you seen the new slack logo?   It's a negative space penis swastika.
08:41 <@Shadow404> and i applaud you
08:41 <@Dolemite> It can't be unseen
08:42 < aestetix> well George RR Martin is worse
08:42 < aestetix> I got 100 pages into Game of Thrones
08:42 < aestetix> but it was badly written, and I couldn't take it
08:42 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: omg, your right
08:42 <@Dolemite> * you're
08:42 <@Shadow404> https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2019/01/Slack-Logo-old-new-796x417.jpg
08:42 < PigBot> None (at cdn0.tnwcdn.com) http://tinyurl.com/yaqs7tm7
08:42 <@Corydon76> Let's see, be a good, poor writer, or a bad, rich writer.  What to choose, what to choose.....
08:43 <@Shadow404> bad rich
08:43 < aestetix> yeah.....
08:43 < aestetix> the best writers also tend to be poor and mentally unstable
08:44 <@Shadow404> that's what hired proofreaders and editors are for
08:44 <@Corydon76> I've always enjoyed Isaac Asimov, and lots of other popular writers, even if their writing wasn't perfect
08:44 < aestetix> Shadow404: you mean the poeple that "news" outlets have been firing en masse?
08:44 <@Shadow404> then the writer and can just freely flow his thoughts
08:44 <@Shadow404> aestetix: yep, so you can hire them for cheap now
08:45 <@Shadow404> win/win
08:45 <@Corydon76> Shadow404: or volunteer ones
08:45 <@Corydon76> I was a core proofreader for TFOT
08:45 <@Shadow404> Corydon76: they're cold interns
08:45 <@Shadow404> *called
08:45 <@Corydon76> I didn't get pair for it, although I do recall they sent me a check for $500 after the book went to press.
08:46 <@Corydon76> err, paid
08:46 <@Shadow404> $500 for how much work?
08:46 <@Corydon76> And I don't think I told the IRS that, either.  Oh, well, past the 7 years now.
08:46 <@Corydon76> Hours and hours of proofreading
08:47 <@Corydon76> I sent so many corrections that the authors finally gave me write access to the Subversion repo where the book was stored
08:47 <@Corydon76> And in a later edition, I wrote the Fax chapter, myself
08:48 <@Corydon76> Mind you, I also wrote a core module on which one of the authors based both a chapter and an appendix in one of the books, I forget which
08:49 <@Corydon76> There were something like 4 or 5 editions of that book.
08:50 <@Corydon76> There is a fantastic tax benefit to writing books:  royalties are tax-free.
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09:54 <@Mirage> wtf does someone put something on ebay as an auction with a reserve then start the bidding lower than the reserve?  makes no sense to me why anyone interested should even waste the time bidding
09:55 < Evilpig_> hoping for a bidding war to drive the price up but not willing to just let it go to get it gone?
09:58 <@Corydon76> I suspect some of them are really just retailers playing a game, but they don't want to lose their shirts in the process
10:01 < Ca1L0fDuty> nice
10:03 <@Dolemite> It's common with collectibles - you set the bidding low to get more of a "true demand" value for a product, but you set a reserve higher to keep from getting rid of something at a loss
10:04 <@Dolemite> If the true demand is higher than your reserve, great.   If not, at least you know what the market would bear.
10:05 <@Shadow404> im gonna bronze some of my shit and see what that sells for on ebay
10:06 <@Corydon76> I'm pretty sure selling fecal matter is prohibited by the terms of the ebay site.
10:07 <@Shadow404> even if its hermetically sealed?
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10:35 <@Dolemite> Oh, found another funny accidental foreshadowing in Stargate Atlantis.   Season 4, one of the comic books you see Colonel Sheppard reading is an Aquaman comic book.
10:36 <@Dolemite> Ronon wasn't in the scene, or it would have been the perfect link.   Maybe he shares one with Ronon before the end of the series.
10:44 <@Corydon76> https://whiskeyriversoap.com/collections/bath-bombs/products/a-bathbomb-for-youre-the-worst-new
10:44 < PigBot>  A Bathbomb for You're The Worst - NEW! – Whiskey River Soap Co.  (at whiskeyriversoap.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7qanvs4
13:06 <@dasunt> This person:  https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/ag5q58/bc_canada_i_am_a_victim_of_identity_theft_police/
13:06 < PigBot> [BC, Canada] I am a victim of identity theft. Police demanded I send them money for investigation reasons, deemed me innocent, and disappeared without returning my money. How do I deal with this? : legaladvice (at www.reddit.com)
13:31 < Evilpig_> that would work?!
13:47 <@dasunt> It worked.
13:48 <@dasunt> PS:  I am a police officer investigating a crime.  To prove that you are innocent, please transfer me the contents of your bank account so I can inspect the money to see if it is stolen.
13:48 <@dasunt> ktxh.
13:49 <@dasunt> You know this is the truth because I said I'm a police officer and the police can't lie to you.
14:02 <@dasunt> I love how the bank's fraud detection kept getting triggered and he just overrode it.
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15:52 <@Dagmar> whew
15:54 < oddball> bah, apparently, FedEx changed their routes.  I'm now at the beginning of their route, instead of the end.
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15:55 <@oddball> And I have a package that actually requires a signature.
15:55 <@Dagmar> Ouch
15:55 <@Dagmar> Well, at least they'll leave you a stickynote
15:56 <@oddball> Good news is that they can deliver it to a Walgreens, and I can pick it up there.  Conveniently, I pass one on the way home from the office.
15:56 <@oddball> Just had to convince the guy at FedEx "no, don't deliver it to a Walgreens in Antioch."
15:58 <@oddball> Especially, when it's a package that contains material that's labelled "restricted for use by military/law enforment personnel," and "not for civilian use."
15:59 <@oddball> Oh, and almost everything in my wallet survived the wash.  Lost some movie passes, though.
16:00 <@Dagmar> Gonna hate it for you tomorrow night
16:01 <@oddball> huh?  why?
16:02 <@Dagmar> You've not looked at any nerd sites today?
16:03 <@Dagmar> Dude, Glass releases tomorrow night
16:03 <@oddball> I have not.  Was busy at work, and just got home.
16:04 <@Dagmar> Pretty much everywhere that caters to comic nerds has been running ads for it since like Monday
16:04 <@oddball> ah, that.
16:04 <@oddball> Honestly? meh
16:05 <@oddball> I might catch it when I can watch it at home, but I don't have a real urge to see it in theaters.
16:05 <@Dagmar> Well....
16:06 <@Dagmar> now I'm kind of mad that WIkipedia doesn't have a <spoilers> tag
16:06 <@oddball> It really needs to be a "holy shit, I need to see this film!" for me to see it in theaters, because, well, I got a $25 gift certificate to the movies for Christmas, and that didn't cover 2 tickets.
16:12 <@oddball> instead, I think I'll watch season 3 of Grand Tour.
16:41 < Evilpig_> oddball: but if you went to amc on tuesday, tickets are $5 and if you catch the matinee on saturday mornings they are $6
16:41 <@oddball> Where is there an AMC in Nashville?
16:42 <@oddball> As for Matinee... yeah... trying to get Nai out the door in the morning to see a movie is a no-go.
16:44 < Evilpig_> there are several
16:44 < Evilpig_> I goto the one in bellevue
16:44 < Evilpig_> https://www.amctheatres.com/movie-theatres
16:44 < PigBot> Find a Theatre (at www.amctheatres.com) http://tinyurl.com/hkfzxxn
16:45 < Evilpig_> https://www.amctheatres.com/movie-theatres/nashville-tn
16:45 < PigBot> Find a local AMC movie theatre in Nashville, Tn; get movie times and buy tickets (at www.amctheatres.com) http://tinyurl.com/yam2pcus
16:47 < Evilpig_> https://www.amctheatres.com/ticket-tuesday
16:47 < PigBot> Tuesday Ticket Savings (at www.amctheatres.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycxjytoe
16:48 < Evilpig_> now here's the extra kicker
16:48 < Evilpig_> if you buy the amc $5 tickets for tuesdays through atom tickets, you get a free regular price ticket to any other movie
16:49 < Evilpig_> after you buy 4 tickets
16:49 < Evilpig_> and if you want to avoid the "convenience" fee for using atom, you goto the movie you want from facebook.com/movies
16:50 < Evilpig_> also, I goto the movies too much probably
16:53 < Evilpig_> and don't buy tickets in pairs through atom.  buy them one at a time.  the extra tickets are by transaction, not ticket
17:38 <@Dagmar> My goodness
17:38 <@Dagmar> This is how Sprint drives people to using Google Fi
17:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently my new/used phone arrived early, but the SIM card needed won't arrive until tomorrow night
17:39 <@Dagmar> I figure, no problem, they're cheap
17:39 <@Dagmar> They're just annoyingly specific because of Sprint bullshit, so I called the store nearest the house, figuring I'll drop $10 on it on the way home
17:39 <@Dagmar> Got put on hold for 20 minutes
17:40 <@Dagmar> Called back, up to 6:34s now
17:40 <@Dagmar> I'm about to call them a third time just to be an asshole
17:40 <@Dagmar> "Yes, I'm looking for someone who knows the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground."
17:40 <@Dagmar> "Do you have anyone working there who fits that description?
17:50 <@Dagmar> Thirty minutes of being on hold across two calls and they're claiming they have what I need
17:50 <@Dagmar> God help them if they were wrong
18:19 <@oddball> See... I would have just stopped in on the way home.
18:22 < Evilpig_> I should have stopped on the way home and grabbed something for dinner.  I don't feel like being responsible and cooking
19:28 < Evilpig_> from the look of the intro to the grand tour we're in for a good season
19:28 <@oddball> Was that in doubt?
19:28 < Evilpig_> no, but after he blew up the supercar there was some question as to what amazon was going to allow
19:33 < Evilpig_> james may can't control that camero
19:43 <@oddball> It's not just him.  It's a very squirrely car.
19:46 <@oddball> Wait 'till you get to the drag race at the end.
19:46 < Evilpig_> they're doing donuts in the old ford theater now
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21:40 <@Dagmar> Well, they managed to give me the wrong SIM card type the first time around
21:40 <@Dagmar> ...so I went back at 7:53 and got another one, but they skipped scanning it into the system, so the system wouldn't take it either.
21:41 <@Dagmar> I just got done with a bunch of rounds of rebooting and so on with support, but it finally works
21:44 <@Dagmar> I think I like the second screen, except the distressing tendency to show my name in cursive
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