--- Log opened Wed Jan 09 00:00:27 2019
00:18 < aestetix> guten Morgen klixa
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06:14 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:20  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:06 <@Dolemite> Much quieter in here than normal, today
08:06 <@Dolemite> Not that 'normal' can really be applied to this channel
08:12 < aestetix> Dolemite: any recommendations for american news sites that aren't total propaganda one way or another"
08:12 < aestetix> nytimes and wapo have turned into leftist propaganda. and we all already know about fox news and breitbart
08:18 <@Dolemite> I find politico.com to be pretty balanced
08:19 <@Dolemite> thehill is fair, but right leaning
08:19 < aestetix> thehill has been the most balanced I've found. maybe I should check out politico too
08:20 <@Dolemite> Most local news sites have turned into dumpster fires, as they have been bought up by either Gannett or Sinclair, and have homogenized all content.
08:21 < aestetix> yeah, I'm not enjoying the wal-mart effect being played on journalism
08:22 <@Dolemite> The best journalism is coming from local culture papers, but they don't have a scope beyond truly local interests
08:22 < aestetix> maybe that will get people to focus on the local level again
08:23 <@Dolemite> Well, not around here.   I'm definitely living in the epicenter of the impact crater of Trump convincing his base that they can only trust him.
10:06 <@Corydon76> I love finding old SQL code where someone has explicitly compared boolean values to true.
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11:22 <@Mirage> improvement? https://www.deviantart.com/creativephotoworks/art/ham-and-cheese-749320466
11:23 <@Mirage> ^ SFW..just a trump parody
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12:51 <@eryc> God sent Trump down from Heaven to save us all. All hail to the Trump.
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13:23 <@dasunt> I remember reading something about Solaris that was written back in the day about the shell being able to still take commands while it was processing the previous one.
13:23 <@dasunt> So you could keep typing while the previous command was still executing and it would buffer.
13:23 <@dasunt> Damn, I wish Powershell had that.
13:25 <@dasunt> FFS.  Now it's lost the session it had.
13:26 <@dasunt> Hosting AD/Exchange in the cloud:  Bringing you back to 1975.  But not the cool 1975.
13:28  * dasunt yawns.
13:29 <@Mirage> lol... https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-46794556
13:29 < PigBot> Smartphone users warned to be careful of the Antichrist - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9zhgthn
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15:14 <@Corydon76> dasunt: bash has that capability right now.  In actuality, it has nothing to do with the shell and everything to do with the keyboard buffer.
15:16 <@Corydon76> If Powershell doesn't allow that, it might have to do with those commands ostensibly taking input from the keyboard buffer.
15:24 <@eryc> yea there's nothing in Solaris that has special input handling that would likely just be bash
15:51 <@Corydon76> dasunt: there seems to be a suggestion that Powershell does have keyboard buffering: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Keyboard_input/Flush_the_keyboard_buffer#PowerShell
15:51 < PigBot> Keyboard input/Flush the keyboard buffer - Rosetta Code (at rosettacode.org) http://tinyurl.com/yc2rb95h
15:51 <@Corydon76> But if an intermediate command is flushing the keyboard buffer, that may be the cause for why you can't type ahead.
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16:37 <@Mirage> call me crazy, but i hate how solar, wind, wave energy generation is called "renewable".   Sorry, but there's nothing renewable about sun/wind/waves.   If anything they are all going away and can never be replaced..granted extremely slowly.  (moon will eventually 'escape', so no more tides.   Sun will eventually burn out, so no more solar or wind.)
16:38 <@Mirage> oil/coal/gas is technically renewable...it's just that it takes waaaaaay longer for it to be created than it can be consumed
18:34 <@opticron> renewable over the lifetime of the species
18:45 <@opticron> also, the moon will never actually escape
18:46 <@opticron> but it will eventually synchronize with the rotation of the earth and so moon-caused tides will cease
18:48 <@opticron> that's 50 billion years from now, though
18:49 <@Mirage> opticron: why is the moon getting farther away if it will never escape?
18:49 <@opticron> because as it moves away, it steals angular momentum from the earth
18:49 <@opticron> at some point, the earth will be in lockstep with the moon just like the moon is in lockstep with the earth
18:49 <@opticron> when that happens, it can no longer steal angular momentum from the earth to continue moving outward
18:55 <@opticron> but that's moot becuase the sun's red giant phase is around 5 billion years away
19:05 <@opticron> which is 10000x longer than humans have been around
19:17 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon76: I've never worked at NHC.
19:32 <@Shadow404> opticron: and probably 1 million times longer than humans will ever be around after
19:33 <@Shadow404> whats interesting about the drake equation is the chances for detecting intelligent life are ever increasing with the discovery of more and more exoplanets, yet no confirmed contact to date
19:34 <@Shadow404> which makes you wonder why? obviously the chances are pretty good for intelligent life to arise, but does it get snuffed out to quickly for a variety of reasons before contact is made with another intelligent life??
19:35 <@Mirage> the exoplanets are farther and farther away...therefore anything we would be able to detect from them would be from farther and farther back in time.
19:35 <@Shadow404> yes, but if we can detect gravity waves, large radio antenna telescope arrays could detect the faintest of signals from another galaxy
19:36 <@Shadow404> if your talking about lack of time to catch up to us, then your thinking way to much in human time frame of thought
19:37 <@Shadow404> what if humans arose before dinos?
19:37 <@Shadow404> what if....
19:37 <@Shadow404> we could of sent or heard signals 150 millions years ago
19:38 <@Shadow404> so if there are extinction events that occur, and we have just missed windows for contact so far....
19:38 <@Mirage> quite true.  as well as the fact that whatever "life" we do detect could have become extinctwell before we ever detected them
19:38 <@Shadow404> thats a good chance too, but im talking about just confirmed intelligent signals
19:39 <@Shadow404> regardless of source and their current status
19:40 <@Shadow404> another theory, is if there are intelligent beings, our intelligence level could be so laughable that we look like microbes by comparison to their capacity and they dont bother talking to us
19:40 <@Shadow404> they could be using a communication system we havent even discovered yet, like when we didnt know rf existed
19:42 <@Mirage> IMO that would be expected given how long the "primitive" communications could/would take to get from there to here
19:43 <@Mirage> Not that we would ever be able to travel there in our lifetimes anyway...
19:55 <@Shadow404> the only way i see that happening is digital copying and body cloning
19:56 <@Shadow404> collective AI, where we can be put into digital sleep mode for the long ride
19:57 <@Shadow404> only issue then is degredation of storage media by high energy particles that would be up over those long travel times
19:58 <@Shadow404> i say only issue, but that in fact is only the tip of the iceberg for engineering issues
20:05 <@Shadow404> and i always laugh about people talking about speed of light travel and how it would only take 4.3 light yrs away. I always reply, sure if you want to become liquid mush against the nearest bulkhead....
20:05 <@Shadow404> see how long until they understand that logic
20:05 <@Shadow404> 4.3 light years to alpha centauri i mean
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21:22 <@opticron> Shadow404, hence why I mention the lifetime of the species
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