--- Log opened Fri Jan 04 00:00:20 2019 06:31 <@brimstone> is the 404 list on se2600.org down? 06:32 <@brimstone> 404 on http://se2600.org/mailman as well 06:32 < PigBot> 404 06:59 < Evilpig_> it's there but there is a redirect wrong. 06:59 < Evilpig_> you have to do /mailman/ 07:01 < Evilpig_> http://www.se2600.org/mailman/listinfo/404 07:01 < PigBot> 404 Info Page (at www.se2600.org) 07:02 <@brimstone> my mailserver is convinced there isn't a route to you 07:02 < Evilpig_> could be true 07:02 < Evilpig_> where is your server located? 07:03 <@brimstone> france 07:03 <@brimstone> i think 07:03 < Evilpig_> we have a weiner 07:03 < Evilpig_> I'll add france to the allowed countries 07:03 <@brimstone> you block france? 07:04 < Evilpig_> I blocked almost the entire world except for us, northern us, and I think germany 07:04 < Evilpig_> yup allow canada, usa, uk 07:04 < Evilpig_> just specifically for smtp 07:04 <@brimstone> ah 07:20 < Evilpig_> try now 07:20 < Evilpig_> I got really tired of spam and dropped the hammer probably a year and a half or more ago 07:29 <@brimstone> ah, ok, thanks 07:29 <@brimstone> i'll try again next month 07:29 <@brimstone> i've somehow lost the message 07:30 <@brimstone> A+ sysadmining over here 07:40 < Evilpig_> I set up that system using firewalld and had to go look up how to make ipsets with firewalld again 07:41 < Evilpig_> then I realized I updated my script to handle firewalld and just had to put france in it. clearly i'm awake 08:51 <@Dagmar> i <3 okean 08:59 <@oddball> wait... people still use the se2600 mailing list? 09:00 < Evilpig_> not really 09:00 < Evilpig_> the traffic is uber low 09:20 <@oddball> I would just like a monthly reminder of the meetings 09:21 <@Corydon76> Is there a distribution list software which is encrypted, reliable, spamproof, and is resistant to the government attempting to discover who is subscribed? 09:21 <@Corydon76> Interesting thought for something to create should the shit ever hit the fan. 09:24 <@Corydon76> In terms of monthly reminders, I just set up my calendar to deliver those. 10:09 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure it's possible to encrypt mail recipients and still be able to send mail to them 10:11 <@Dagmar> Dangit. What's the filesystem type number for Linux LVM using GPT? 10:14 < Evilpig_> 8e? 10:15 <@Dagmar> Nah it's some long-ass GUID but it's 31 in the list fdisk shows 10:26 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: I was thinking more along the lines of a DarkWeb distribution system, whereby you can retrieve messages on a regular basis, without the government being able to verify who collected them. 10:27 <@Dagmar> Sounds like a job for siacoin/filecoin 10:27 <@brimstone> bitmessage? 10:27 <@Corydon76> And possibly, not even the content of the message. 10:28 <@brimstone> that onion chat one? 10:28 <@brimstone> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorChat 10:28 < PigBot> TorChat - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/o8p44o7 10:29 <@brimstone> i'm thinking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricochet_(software) 10:29 < PigBot> Ricochet (software) - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/ycvue6em 10:32 <@Corydon76> That one looks reasonable 10:36 <@oddball> Corydon76: I've done similar, but I figure that it might help remind other people that there are, in fact, meetings. 10:38 <@Corydon76> The problem is that I think more people learn about the mailing list from the meeting than the meeting from the mailing list. 10:39 <@Corydon76> What we need is another young'un with a suitable lack of caution to slap meeting stickers on the back of government signs and other locations that would get people to come to the meetings. Not that I would ever advocate defacing government property, you understand... 10:40 <@Corydon76> Did Dagmar do that when he was younger? We need a young Dagmar. 10:43 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrvidiohpgobbljr] has joined #se2600 10:46 <@oddball> I believe in the shotgun approach. Why not both? 10:51 < xray> New people at DC404 meetings seem to find us via Meetup and that is indirectly due to a person who posted about it on a related Meetup page. 10:51 < xray> I've thought of setting up a DC404 meetup page but they want stupid money for it. 10:52 <@Corydon76> On the plus side, at least you know how they're making their money. 11:00 < xray> DC404 by it's charter, is not allowed to collect dues so $120 - $180 a year for an account is just a tad bit outside of our budget. 11:03 <@Corydon76> Nashville 2600 gets around that by distinguishing between the 615 2600 group and Nashville 2600. 11:04 <@Corydon76> They happen to meet at the same time in the same place, so it's not much of a difference 11:04 < xray> The charter is required by DEF CON. 11:04 < xray> Is 2600 the same way? 11:05 <@Corydon76> If dues to a parallel group were used for admittance to a particular Defcon party.... 11:05 <@Corydon76> Yes, 2600 is the same way. 11:06 < xray> I thought Meetup used to have a free version that allowed only 10 members but I can't seem to find it. Assuming I could find that then we could at least get free advertising. 11:06 <@Corydon76> https://www.2600.com/meetings/guidelines.html 11:06 < PigBot> Guidelines (at www.2600.com) http://tinyurl.com/yaa5kv4h 11:06 <@Dagmar> phogg: Ohhh... 11:09 < xray> It appears that a Meetup account is free but to have a meetup group is an "organizer" and there is always a fee. 11:10 <@Corydon76> $10 or $15/mo depending upon whether you want unlimited unlocked 11:11 <@Corydon76> Advertising pretty much means printing flyers and getting them up at coffeehouses and other places where people congregate. 11:11 < xray> That is outside my budget since I will have to pay for it out of my own pocket. 11:11 <@Corydon76> I'd say college campuses, but campuses are pretty strict about who gets to post flyers. 11:12 < xray> We get about 30+ a month at our meetings so I'm not sure we need to do more advertising. 11:12 <@Corydon76> Depends upon how vocal some of the members are about raising awareness 11:13 < xray> We have a web site, irc channel, discord channel, and email list. 11:13 <@Corydon76> Those are all great, but the problem is how do you advertise outside of your own ecosystem? 11:13 < xray> I'm just surprised how many people use Meetup. 11:13 < xray> Corydon76: agreed 11:14 <@Corydon76> And to be fair, Nashville 2600 isn't doing much of that, either 11:14 <@Corydon76> We need to be. We just aren't. 11:14 < xray> We are also known to most of the hacker/maker spaces in Atlanta as well. 11:15 <@Corydon76> That's better, as it is targeted advertising via word of mouth 11:15 < xray> There are free equivalents to Meetup but when I poll new people they never say anything but Meetup. 11:16 <@Corydon76> Does DC404 do a Defcon party? 11:16 < xray> We seem to be getting a fair number of people trying to change careers to information security. 11:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 11:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 11:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 11:17 < xray> Yes although not an official one. They give us space to meet and we organize it via hangouts in real time. 11:17 < xray> We may be moving the organization to discord. 11:18 < xray> party organization 11:18 <@Corydon76> Well, there's your in to collecting dues. It's $0 a year to attend DC404 meetings, but $30/year to attend the official DC404 Defcon Party. 11:18 < xray> I'm also noticing that newer people don't use IRC but are OK with discord. 11:19 <@Corydon76> Yes, I rather enjoy Discord, because of the unlimited chat history, as opposed to Slack 11:19 < xray> I will admit the technical entry requirements for irc are pretty steep compared to discord. 11:19 <@Dagmar> slack becomes unlimited if you pay them money 11:19 <@Corydon76> Yeah, but Slack is only unlimited if you pay PER USER. 11:20 < xray> Discord has a thick app but works nicely with just a browser. 11:20 <@Mirage> I'm not a big fan of the port requirements for Discord audio..which is essentially "Allow all UDP" 11:20 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:20 <@Corydon76> I've never used Discord audio thus far 11:20 <@Corydon76> Waze uses it for editor communication 11:20 <@Corydon76> And I like it enough that I pay Discord their $50/year. 11:22 < xray> I didn't know that Discord even had a paid option. I can't find it on their web page. 11:23 <@Corydon76> It's called "Discord Nitro" 11:24 <@Corydon76> There are certain things you can do with a paid account, like putting animated GIFs in your profile pic 11:24 <@Corydon76> Not that I use that, but I'm all in favor of supporting services that I use. 11:25 <@Corydon76> https://discordia.me/nitro 11:25 < PigBot> The Discord Wiki (at discordia.me) http://tinyurl.com/y8dalte2 11:26 < xray> Interesting. Thanks, I'll look into that. 11:27 <@Corydon76> I seem also to have 1080p 30fps screenshare with a Nitro account 11:28 < xray> So it would be very useful for streamers 11:30 < xray> I just saw the Discord Nitro Coffee thing and then I noted it was an April Fools joke. ONE SHOULD NOT JOKE ABOUT COFFEE. . . 11:39 <@Dagmar> Oh LOVELY 11:40 <@Dagmar> Acute Hepatitis A detected at Rivergate Outback over the Christmas season 11:40 <@Dagmar> Just love places that have no sick time policy 11:41 <@Dagmar> That is just sooo hellishly bad 11:48 < Evilpig_> https://www.wsmv.com/news/metro-public-health-rivergate-outback-steakhouse-employee-diagnosed-with-hepatitis/article_499b38c6-0ed7-11e9-9a19-0f86b27b0698.html 11:48 < Evilpig_> lol 11:48 < PigBot> Metro Public Health: Rivergate Outback Steakhouse employee diagnosed with Hepatitis A | News | wsmv.com (at www.wsmv.com) 11:55 <@Mirage> Evilpig_: Do you have an HDHomeRun or other tuner and have you tried connecting it up with Plex? 11:55 < Evilpig_> yeah 11:55 < Evilpig_> it works pretty good 11:55 < Evilpig_> was straight forward with no real issues 11:56 < Evilpig_> can't share it out to other users though, they have to be part of your home group 11:56 <@Mirage> Cool. Just dug out my old one...getting firmware updated and stuff to try it out. 11:56 < Evilpig_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/539ceelqe3i4pie/Screenshot%202019-01-04%2011.56.24.png?dl=0 11:56 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screenshot 2019-01-04 11.56.24.png (at www.dropbox.com) 11:57 <@Mirage> As of last month DirectTV Now is finally streaming quite a bit of the content with DTS audio, so I'm very strongly looking into cutting cable and using Plex for OTA and DirectTV Now for the other stuff I normally watch 12:08 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 12:12 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:15 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 12:15 -!- K`Tetch [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Changing host] 12:15 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 12:16 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:30 <@eryc> hey guys, i'm calling in sick with hepatitis. i'll be back in a month or two! 12:32 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydvqfgxirpqutofv] has joined #se2600 12:33 <@Mirage> Bah...looks like I'm gonna have to mount the antenna up on the roof instead of in the attic to get all the channels...which I was afraid of since I'm kind of behind a ridge 12:52 -!- TheDukh_ [~thedukh@66-38-50-21.pool.dsl.duo-county.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:57 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@66-38-50-21.pool.dsl.duo-county.com] has joined #se2600 14:50 <@Dagmar> Yay 2000+ people with no power in Goodlettsville 14:50 <@Dagmar> Wonder what redneck hit a pole... 14:54 <@Mirage> The one that was driving and said "Hay ya'lll..watch this!" 14:55 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:56 < Evilpig_> or could have just been a teenager texting and driving 15:14 <@Mirage> https://komonews.com/news/offbeat/restaurant-removes-sign-over-concerns-its-offensive 15:14 < PigBot> Restaurant removes sign over concerns it's offensive | KOMO (at komonews.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybbj97zm 15:14 <@Mirage> I might even go to a place named "Pho Keene Great" regrdless of the fact that Pho, IMO, is overpriced and overrated 15:27 < Evilpig_> that would amuse me 16:18 <@dasunt> Mirage: Are you a boomer? 16:18 <@dasunt> https://byrslf.co/why-arent-baby-boomers-eating-pho-e4792e66d56e?gi=e92ee4926ff9 16:19 < PigBot> Why Aren’t Baby Boomers Eating Pho? – Be Yourself (at byrslf.co) http://tinyurl.com/ydblswz6 16:19 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 16:19 <@dasunt> (Seriously though, not a huge pho fan either) 16:23 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 16:34 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:36 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 16:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 16:37 <@Dagmar> Jes 16:37 <@Dagmar> er jeees 16:37 <@Dagmar> Shit just STOPS working when you don't properly update the bind.keys file for dnssec 16:37 <@Dagmar> heh 16:37 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 16:40 <@Mirage> dasunt: no, not a boomer.. 16:41 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:42 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 16:42 <@Mirage> dasunt: I just don't see how a bowl of thin "broth" with the equal of about 1/4 a pkg of Ramen noodles, a few small pieces of "meat" that look like soggy bacon bits, maybe a small tofu cube or two, and a sprig of mint is worth $7-9 16:43 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:43 <@Mirage> Of course maybe that's not the norm for Pho places outside of DFW..but the few I've gone to are like that. 17:37 <@oddball> Yeah.... that's not the pho they serve around here. 17:48 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 17:52 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:56 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 18:00 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:58 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jrvidiohpgobbljr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Sat Jan 05 00:00:21 2019