--- Log opened Wed Nov 28 00:00:24 2018 00:45 <@Mirage> https://www.local10.com/news/florida/broward/broward-woman-pulls-knife-on-man-after-loud-farting-complaints 00:45 < PigBot> Broward woman pulls knife on man after loud farting complaints (at www.local10.com) http://tinyurl.com/yavfzdgk 00:49 <@Mirage> https://www.npr.org/2018/11/27/671180852/after-months-stuck-living-in-airport-syrian-finds-refuge-half-a-world-away 00:49 < PigBot> After Months Stuck Living In Airport, Syrian Finds Refuge Half A World Away : NPR (at www.npr.org) http://tinyurl.com/y7dng7fa 01:37 <@Mirage> https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/vegan-activists-storm-steakhouse-mocked-by-patrons-mooing-at-themhttps://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/vegan-activists-storm-steakhouse-mocked-by-patrons-mooing-at-them 01:37 < PigBot> 404 01:38 <@Mirage> hrm... 01:38 <@Mirage> https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/vegan-activists-storm-steakhouse-mocked-by-patrons-mooing-at-them 01:38 < PigBot> Vegan activists storm steakhouse, are mocked by patrons mooing at them | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya7xzt5m 01:43 <@Dagmar> I'd have openly threatened to eat the vegans if they got too close 02:05 <@Mirage> Dagmar: a local butcher shop that also does lunch has a stuffed "vegan" trophy mounted on the wall along with deer, elk, buffalo heads 02:07 <@Dagmar> Sweet 06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez! 07:32 <@Corydon76> Mirage: that's hilarious 08:28 <@Corydon76> Anybody in here currently doing manual terminations of fiber? I'm thinking about getting a fiber termination kit to do backbone for Wifi at an outdoor location. 08:29 <@Corydon76> The automated termation kits are bit out of my price range, but there are manual termination kits in the $100-$150 range. 09:17 <@Evilpig> I only ever did one and that was years ago 09:17 <@Evilpig> having to do shit under a microscope was a pain in the ass 09:30 <@Corydon76> There are apparently newer connection kits that use AFL connectors that are a lot easier, but they're also pricier, $1500 for the kit and $10 for the connector. 09:56 <@Evilpig> having a tech interview for our open L2 spot and this guy has zero experience 09:56 <@Evilpig> his last position was listed as senior unix but he is uncomfortable at root 09:57 <@Corydon76> As he should be. Everything should be done as your normal user, using 'sudo' for privileged operations. 09:58 <@Corydon76> It's just good security practice not to use root except in absolute emergencies. 09:59 <@Evilpig> when asked what/how they were monitoring things that he was "ensuring performance" of at his last position he said they had graphana but he wasn't sure what they were graphing and said they were monitoring things with crontab 09:59 <@Evilpig> but he couldn't tell us how or what crontab was doing exactly 10:00 <@Corydon76> Heh 10:00 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gcdlwsdngrjentui] has joined #se2600 10:01 <@Corydon76> Sounds like a junior admin who was never entrusted with any responsibility 10:02 <@Evilpig> he was just asked if you wanted to check what dns resolver you are using on a linux system what would you check 10:02 <@Evilpig> we even said "resolver" 10:03 <@Corydon76> He didn't even know DNS? 10:03 <@Evilpig> he said he would run netstat something 10:05 <@Evilpig> asked him how to check memory on the system and he started with cat'ing out /proc/meminfo, then went to top 10:06 <@Corydon76> Not a terrible way to go, although with the advent of vmware and memory balloons, not great, either. 10:07 <@Evilpig> it was just an odd route. he was asked earlier what his experience with rhel7 was and it was none. asked if he knew what major technology change was introduced to rhel7 and had no idea. 10:08 <@Evilpig> he has zero experience with system-duh 10:09 <@Corydon76> You can learn that in a day, though 10:10 <@Corydon76> As long as you're already familiar with the previous commands, RHEL makes it fairly easy to transition. In most cases, the old commands will still work, just translated into the systemd-specific commands. 10:10 <@Evilpig> yeah they do but we expected him to at least know what systemd is 10:12 <@Mirage> "Something to be avoided if possible" 10:15 <@Corydon76> In practice, it's not that bad. The advantages it confers for user devices outweigh the disadvantages. However, there is no advantage, really, on a server, except that it comes up faster on a reboot. 10:16 <@Corydon76> Engineering and managing init dependency systems is a PITA 10:24 <@Evilpig> It has some perks, but the scope creep on that project makes it awful 10:25 <@Corydon76> I don't think the scope creep was really all that bad compared to the ego of the guy running it, who clashed against Linus on several occasions. 10:25 <@Evilpig> the init system has a webserver 10:26 <@Corydon76> You mean it has a manager with multiple workers, and they chose HTTP instead of implementing yet another process-specific control system. 10:26 <@brimstone> and a QR lib! 10:28 <@Corydon76> brimstone: I'm seeing that the QR library is optional. 10:29 <@Corydon76> Well, other than in a mistake once in Fedora. 10:30 <@Corydon76> If you're going to complain about silly things in core code, keep in mind that I once wrote a Morse code module for Asterisk. 10:37 <@Corydon76> UGH! FreeBSD has just said that they can't support release branches for 5 years. 10:38 <@Corydon76> https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=29904+0+current/freebsd-announce 10:38 < PigBot> FreeBSD Mail Archives (at docs.freebsd.org) http://tinyurl.com/yaj9y3d4 10:53 <@Mirage> Corydon76: https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g56463-d882270-i207594292-Ye_Ole_Butcher_Shop-Plano_Texas.html 10:53 < PigBot> Vegan mounted - No Salads - Picture of Ye Ole Butcher Shop, Plano - TripAdvisor (at www.tripadvisor.com) 10:55 <@Corydon76> Mirage: I meant the story, not the mount, although the mount is amusing, too 10:55 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yscrdwrukvjeunsl] has joined #se2600 11:54 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cjckG-NoIQ 11:54 < PigBot> Trying to Play Guess Who in 2018 (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yd45wljt 12:31 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 12:33 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47 <@Corydon76> dasunt: I think it's hilarious that those people don't think lawyers at Apple can read social media to find out whether someone has a bona fide female identity. 14:49 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: LOL 16:03 < ware> LOL YEAH 16:03 < ware> whats up guys 16:03 <@Dagmar> sup 16:04 < ware> i found this screen session, just peepin in 16:04 < ware> been a long good while though, ~7 years? 16:04 < ware> probably more 16:04 < ware> whats been happening? phreaknic still a thing? 16:05 < ware> i saw NL is living the dream on the lake 16:07 < ware> yall still running the show @ Vandy NOC? 16:07 < ware> ive been doing AWS magick past couple years and digging it 16:10 <@Dagmar> NL is just about the only person still working there 16:10 <@Dagmar> THey played too much politics/bullshit there and Mirage and I both left 16:11 <@Dagmar> Wilbur went _back_ to work for Medical Center 16:20 <@Dagmar> I know I'd had just about enough of Hogan's bullshit and asking us to get managerial signoff on simple fuckin' DNS updates 16:20 <@Dagmar> Like, don't tell me that standard job functions require multiple levels of managerial signoff just so PHBs can feel useful 16:20 <@Dagmar> It's a waste of time and irritating to customers 16:21 <@Dagmar> Fuck a whole bunch of that 16:21 <@Dagmar> Per example, someone from the help desk (who had sudo access!) managed to completely fuck up a customer's homedir permissions 16:21 <@Dagmar> I fixed these in about 4 minutes 16:21 <@Dagmar> Then I was told I needed to _file a change_ and _get signoff_ before doing that 16:22 <@Dagmar> My response was "If I can't do something like that unsupervised, I should be fired. Why was Help Desk allowed to fuck it up without filing a change in the first place?" 16:22 <@Dagmar> Large, 40-gallon buckets of Liquid No 17:23 <@Evilpig> time to hang a grow light. popcorn ceilings suck for the stud finder 18:29 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:16 < Synx_hm> anyone in nashville area want to purchase a bad ass subaru in mostly working state? 19:16 < Synx_hm> sweet ill draft up the papers right away 19:16 < Synx_hm> fml 20:25 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yscrdwrukvjeunsl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Thu Nov 29 00:00:26 2018