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06:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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06:49  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:01 <@Dolemite> OMG, is the Book of Face down?
07:01 <@Dolemite> "Service Unavailable"
07:15 <@Corydon76> Not here.
07:30 <@Corydon76> Facebook is broken in various ways today, though, so it must be Tuesday.
07:34 < aestetix> hopefully it will stay down
07:34 <@Corydon76> From what I understood about them during a recent recruiting effort, fat chance.  They have more money than God.
07:51 < dasunt> My FB is screwed up.
07:53  * dasunt heads to Craigslist instead.
07:54 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA4nUDb3uo4
07:55 < PigBot> MONOPOLY FOR MILLENNIALS! Hasbro ROASTS Millennials With New Game! (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybwwd66n
07:57 < dasunt> Gawd, some folks really need to do comparison for pricing before putting stuff on Craigslist.
07:58 <@Corydon76> dasunt: 1) sometimes things aren't meant to sell, and 2) money laundering
07:59 < dasunt> This is just "I owned it so I think it is valuable" pricing.
07:59 <@Corydon76> It's like the companies advertising for a programming job but their salary range is below what junior programmers make for what is clearly a senior position.
08:00 < dasunt> Ha ha:  https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/mcy/d/black-label-carbon-fiber-urb/6730040564.html
08:00 < PigBot> Black Label Carbon Fiber Urb-e Motorized Electric Scooter - motorcycles/scooters - by owner - vehicle automotive bike sale (at minneapolis.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/yb67p2hn
08:06 < dasunt> Crap, I should buy this motorcycle.
08:07 < dasunt> $40.  It's a partially stripped parts bike, but it has a few neat things I could probably use.
08:08 < dasunt> I'd have to look at a parts list.
08:35 < dasunt> Bitcoin has fallen below $5k now.
08:37 <@Dolemite> Hahahaha, now the other side gets to exclaim, "But her emails!"
08:52 <@Corydon76> Okay, looks like FB is down now for me
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08:56 <@Corydon76> I'm continuously amazed at the cognitive dissonance that Trump supporters seem to have.  A possibility is that they're all trolls.
08:56 <@Corydon76> i.e. they don't really believe in him, but they're convinced that he'll royally fuck up the system that they don't like.
08:57 <@Corydon76> I'm not certain which of those two things is more distressing.
08:59 < dasunt> I read a pretty good takedown of this.
09:00  * dasunt tries to find it.
09:01 < dasunt> Huh, not the article, but a good take on it:  https://newrepublic.com/minutes/133447/donald-trumps-supporters-idiots
09:01 < PigBot> Are Donald Trump’s supporters idiots? | The New Republic (at newrepublic.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc76svjg
09:03 < dasunt> The article I was reading though argued that for a lot of Trump supporters, it is a game.  Just a giant "FU" to others.
09:04 < dasunt> There's teams.  The Trump team, which they support, and everyone else, which they are against.
09:05 < dasunt> And they believe that everyone else plays by similar rules.
09:05 < dasunt> Which is why they find humor in stuff like sexual assault accusations against liberals.  Because, to them, all such accusations don't really matter and are only used to score political points.
09:06 < dasunt> It's why they believe in voter fraud - because if they were in power, they'd consider doing it.  Thus the other side must be doing it.
09:06 < dasunt> It's why her emails matter (because Clinton is on the wrong team) and Ivanka's doesn't (because it's another accusation to score political points).
09:07 < dasunt> OTOH, I think such explanations only explain a subset of Trump supporters.
09:08 < dasunt> A good amount of Trump's support comes from rural areas, and these are the areas that Democrats are really bad at reaching out to.
09:09 <@Corydon76> I don't think that's correct.  I live in a rural county, and Democrats still managed to get 25-30% of the vote.  They do have reach.  Just not enough.
09:10 <@Corydon76> The problem in rural counties in inertia.  "My daddy voted Republican, and therefore, I'm voting Republican."
09:11 <@Corydon76> They have other things to think about, so they don't actually concentrate on which party would be better for them, so they just stick with what they've always done
09:13 <@Corydon76> The State House representative just published a piece where he went to bat for the county against the state.  Conspicuously missing from his puff piece was the fact that he was going up against a Republican administration.
09:14 <@Corydon76> And, we just elected another Republican governor and US Senator.
09:15 <@Corydon76> But, my fellow citizens only associated the GOP with their local representative, not the resistant state government he was going up against.  Cognitive dissonance.
09:23 < dasunt> Corydon76: There's always liberals, there's always conservatives.
09:24 < dasunt> In my OMG WE ARE LIBERAL town, Republicans still got around 20% of the vote.
09:25 < aestetix> yeah I gotta say, re: ivanka
09:25 < aestetix> how the fuck could she be so stupid
09:26 <@Corydon76> aestetix: I'd turn that around.  How the fuck could her father be so stupid as to criticize someone for something that his own daughter was likely to do?
09:26 < dasunt> aestetix: Stupid?  Private emails aren't as easy to get as public emails.
09:26 < aestetix> Corydon76: well that much is obvious, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
09:26 < dasunt> May be smart.  Why do you think so many elected officials get in trouble for using private emails?
09:26 < aestetix> dasunt: I realize that
09:26 < aestetix> I'm more thinking PR wise.
09:26 < aestetix> After all the noise about Hillary
09:27 < dasunt> But Hillary is crooked.
09:27 < dasunt>  /s
09:28 <@Dolemite> FAKE NEWZ
09:28 < dasunt> This was a reasonable mistake.  Anyways Wikileaks showed that Hillary's email was full of child porn at pizza parlours.
09:28 <@Corydon76> Hillary had too much class to give Trump the alliterative nickname "Dishonest Donald".
09:29 < aestetix> Then again, I haven't voted *for* a candidate since 2008
09:29 < dasunt> "Donny Dumb
09:29 <@Corydon76> "Dishonest".  If he's going to go after her for being crooked, then she should have returned fire, declaring him as dishonest
09:30 <@Corydon76> Dumb is not a criticism of his ethics, and could backfire
09:30 < aestetix> When there is a candidate worth voting for, I'll do it. Until then, I'm voting against people.
09:30 < dasunt> Why allow him to define the argument?
09:31 < aestetix> holy shit
09:31 < aestetix> https://thehill.com/policy/technology/417600-former-us-labor-secretary-break-up-facebook
09:31 < PigBot> Former US Labor Secretary: Break up Facebook | TheHill (at thehill.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycvwydr7
09:31 < dasunt> aestetix: We have the pothead party - legalize pot, tax it, use the tax money for our schools.  Totally agree with that party.
09:31 <@Corydon76> dasunt: he already did.  It went unanswered
09:31 < aestetix> Robert Reich and Steve Bannon agree on something
09:31 <@Corydon76> Reich is an idiot on that.
09:31 < dasunt> Corydon76: If leaving things unanswered mattered, Donald wouldn't be elected.
09:31 <@Corydon76> Facebook's apparent monopoly hasn't been abused, so it's not an illegal monopoly.
09:31 < aestetix> dasunt: you mean like his tax returns?
09:32 < aestetix> I really hope the first act of the new House is to subpoena his tax returns
09:32 <@Corydon76> First act of the new House will be to appoint committee members.  Then committees can subpoena his tax records
09:32 < aestetix> ok fair enough
09:33 < aestetix> And then they can launch a few dozen investigations
09:33 < dasunt> The tax records are coming.
09:33 <@Corydon76> And dribble out juicy portions of those tax records over the next 22 months
09:33 < dasunt> But I'm pretty sure Donald is going to cast this as a witch hunt by Democrats.
09:33 < aestetix> yeah sure but
09:33 < aestetix> if they have subpoena power and release documents, it's a witch hunt after an actual witch
09:33 < dasunt> Trump supporters believe that such accusations are political games.
09:34 <@Corydon76> They can believe it all they like.  The question is what the middle independents think
09:34 < dasunt> Look at the Mueller investigation - Trump still gets away with calling it a witch hunt after people have gone to trial and ended up in jail.
09:34 < aestetix> That is, the premise of calling something a witch hunt is that there's nothing there. But if all the hoohaw is over newly publicized facts, that's different
09:34 <@Corydon76> It's the middle independents which determine every election.  The base of each party only nets the party 20-30% of the vote.
09:46 < dasunt> They came out with a new edition of one of the books I hate.
09:54 < dasunt> Reading the low-rated reviews, I forgot just how much I hated this book for being so bad.
10:00 <@Dolemite> Harsh words for The Pokey Little Puppy, dasunt.
10:04 < dasunt> Damn that puppy!
10:06 < dasunt> I wonder if the new version of the book fixes some of the worst errors, like where the author claims that Apple was founded by a bunch of ex-IBM workers.
10:10 < dasunt> LOL, this one star review does more to sum up the actual development of money in a page or two of text than the author did in a hundred pages.
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13:03 < TheDukh> So, Bendy and the Ink machine was released today for consoles, except it's not downloadable, and it's only available at Gamestop.
13:07 < TheDukh> On one hand, I told the kids I'd get the game for them...on the other, it's at Gamestop.   Is it worth the kids crying just to go to Gamestop and destroy my soul a little?
13:10 < aestetix> what is Bendy and the Ink
13:11 < aestetix> I guess it's a game for kids
13:16 <@Evilpig> I have to admit to being really spoiled by downloadable games
13:18 < K`Tetch_> yeah, the alst time i bought physical games, was rockband 4, or lego dimentions
13:18 < K`Tetch_> mainly as they needed a physical thing
13:18 < K`Tetch_> before that, probably forza6
13:19 < K`Tetch_> especially as my internet connection is now probably as fast as the disc is for installing
13:19 < K`Tetch_> that said, 99.9% of all my games, are via XBG
13:54 <@Evilpig> https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/bendy-and-the-ink-machine-switch
13:55 < PigBot> Bendy and the Ink Machine for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Game Details (at www.nintendo.com) http://tinyurl.com/y96emrnm
13:55 <@Evilpig> bendy and the ink machine is available for the switch digital
13:56 < TheDukh> Ahh, I don't have a switch, just an Xbox
13:56 < TheDukh> WTF, I just checked the Xbox store and it's on there now...
13:57 <@Evilpig> lol
14:00 < TheDukh> Sigh, oh well, no longer a need to put on pants to go somewhere
15:11 <@Evilpig> 8 fucking calls today trying ot sell me either websites or emergency braces
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16:34 <@brimstone> emergency braces?
16:34 <@brimstone> for your teeth?
16:35 <@brimstone> or knees?
18:11 < xray> for our wallet that they are trying to scan us out of
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19:26 < dasunt> I have never heard of this:  https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3qlfbi/what_happened_to_the_4chan_bank_robber/
19:26 < PigBot> What happened to the 4chan bank robber? : OutOfTheLoop (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/yd8c37xg
19:27 < dasunt> OMG, the posts:  https://imgur.com/gallery/bqyiC
19:27 < PigBot>  Anon literally robs a bank. - Album on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9qz2bxp
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