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06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:09  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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08:13 <@Mirage> nothing quite like being up til 4am doing a CRQ, then having roofers show up and start working at 8am.
08:15 < aestetix> Mirage: sort of like staying up until 7am on a project, going to sleep, and then getting four consecutive package deliveries in a row, an hour apart from each other
08:15 <@Dolemite> Please scrape the shingles quietly.  K'thx bye.
08:21 < Synx_hm> fucking airlines
08:22 < Synx_hm> AA now charges just for the luxury of picking a seat (ANY SEAT)
08:22 <@Shadow404> they denied your access to the mile high club?
08:22 <@Shadow404> haha
08:22 <@Shadow404> gotta love nickel and diming on airlines
08:22 < Synx_hm> if i had picked when i purchased the ticket it would have been $50, now that i waited till 24 hour check in its $11
08:22 < Synx_hm> i called them too because i am traveling with a 1year old in my lap and they still wouldn't give me a fucking seat assignment
08:24 <@Mirage> Synx_hm: solution - drive
08:24 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm: Just fly in the forward cargo hold.
08:24 <@Shadow404> jumpseat?
08:24 < Synx_hm> Mirage to california?
08:24 < Synx_hm> ha
08:25 < Synx_hm> ok so let me regale you all with a story about AA
08:25 < Synx_hm> i am a military member, when traveling on mil orders AA lets you enter their admirals club... ok so we had just had our first kid and were traveling and had a 2 hour layover in DFW
08:25 <@Corydon76> Does it end with the conclusion that their initials coinciding with Alcoholics Anonymous not being a coincidence?
08:26 < Synx_hm> yes
08:26 <@Mirage> Synx_hm: I prefer flying Southwest, so you're never gonna sell me on any boo hoo story about choosing seats.
08:26 < Synx_hm> stupidly we forgot to pack spare clothes for the kiddo in a carry on (i was generally overly stressed about the flight anyawys and forgot) so 40min into flight #1 kiddo blows out his diaper with piss and we also had taken the car seat on the flight so that was also saturated in piss
08:27 <@Mirage> Synx_hm: I never got to choose a seat whle I was in the NAVY...travel id it for me and just gave me the ticket pickup information
08:27  * Corydon76 sips his yellowish soft drink and continues to read
08:27 < Synx_hm> i get to DFW, and take all his clothes off and carseat padding off and go to the restroom and wash it all, unfortunately they dont have air dryers there (the entirety of DFW is on paper towels)
08:28 <@Corydon76> Interesting that you took his clothes off before you got to the restroom
08:28 < Synx_hm> so me being quick thinking i go to the admirals club and try to enter just myself with my mil id so i can use the hair dryer really quick to dry his clothes
08:28 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, i cannot describe to you how stressed i was from this
08:29 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: First kid?
08:29 < Synx_hm> and NOPE AA wont let me near the place, ended up having to walk around DFW for 2 hours with him only in a diaper
08:29 < Synx_hm> i was so fucking pissed
08:29 < Synx_hm> Corydon76; ya first kid first flight
08:29 <@Corydon76> 3rd kid: "Ehhh, fuck it"
08:30 < Synx_hm> aint gonna be no 3rd thankfully on account of yesterdays conversation ;)
08:31 <@Mirage> I avoid DFW at all costs.  I hate that place.
08:31 < Synx_hm> but im traveling with #2 all by myself tomorrow so im a bit nervous about that
08:31 < Synx_hm> i hate all airports, its not the flight i enjoy flying, its the people
08:31 < Synx_hm> i cant stand all the people who rush up against the boarding line to just sit and wait
08:31 < Synx_hm> i just hate people in general
08:31 < Synx_hm> last time i was at DFW i called somebody a cunt in the TSA line
08:31 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: let me introduce you to my friend, Chris, who is currently on his 3rd vasectomy, after the first 2 failed, each resulting in another kid.
08:32 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, dont you say that to me, jesus christ NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
08:32 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: relax, they're 99% effective
08:32 < Synx_hm> i got tested, no swimmers here at least for now
08:36 < Synx_hm> who was talking about their ubiquiti setup the other day, was that Evilpig?
08:37 <@Corydon76> Possibly.  I was, too
08:38 <@Corydon76> I have 3 APs covering the house; two of them are Ubiquiti APs
08:38 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, you ever tried to update ssl certs on the controller or any of their switches?
08:39 <@Corydon76> I've thought about it in terms of LE, but it's a huge PITA
08:39 < Synx_hm> i have a toughswitch 8 pro (now called edgeswitch 8xp pro) and they put no way to easily update the ssl certs from the UI, and i cant get it to work if i overwrite it and commit the change to flash via commandline
08:39 < Synx_hm> ya im using LE
08:39 < Synx_hm> im thinking i might just put haproxy in front of it instead
08:40 <@Corydon76> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pxq99pqZl0dC_j0AJIGu4cNWGfbSlYPMHdXuNZJLCjg/edit
08:40 < PigBot> UniFi SSL Certificate Installation - Google Docs (at docs.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9qyosy2
08:40 <@Corydon76> There's the procedure
08:41 <@Corydon76> There doesn't appear to be a way to export the private key, which I suspect LE requires
08:41 < Synx_hm> that procedure is for the controller right?
08:41 <@Corydon76> Correct
08:42 < Synx_hm> also stupidly you cant manage the toughswitch with the unifi controller, you need unms
08:42 <@Evilpig> I proxied mine
08:42 <@Corydon76> Which is where you're supposed to admin it
08:42 <@Evilpig> http://ubifi.wilpig.com
08:42 < PigBot> UniFi SDN (at ubifi.wilpig.com)
08:42 <@Evilpig> you do need ot make sure you proxy websocks too though
08:43 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, cool thanks for the note on that
08:44 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, you have your controller 'cloud linked'? if so whats that get you extra?
08:44 <@Evilpig> nope
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08:44 <@Evilpig> the cloud link is supposed to make it where you can manage your shit from their cloud interface
08:45 < Synx_hm> ahh
08:45 <@Evilpig> I have two remote sites as well so the proxy works fine
08:45 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, you said you have 3ap's? i need to bring up a 2nd one as my ap ac pro isn't quite reaching the far end of the house, you had any issues  with overlap? my other ap is an ap ac lr
08:46 <@Shadow404> i really do not like all these cloud linked devices. I rather have a secure tunnel to all my devices from outside and then manage them on a psuedo local lan rather than all my devices managers be hosted on a publically accessible platform
08:46 <@Corydon76> Just remember to stay on 1, 6, and 11 for 2.4GHz, and you should be fine
08:46 <@Shadow404> the only exception for that personal rule is the cloud printer plugin to my local printer
08:47 < Synx_hm> Shadow404, agreed... what are you using for cloud print i could really use something like that
08:47 <@Shadow404> one sec
08:48 <@Corydon76> Google Print is what I use
08:48 <@Shadow404> Canon MX920 to google cloud print
08:48 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, any chance you are doing wireless uplink on any of those
08:48 <@Shadow404> and yes, its wireless
08:48 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: nope, I only use wireline backbone
08:48 <@Shadow404> so i can scan directly back to my drive
08:49 <@Evilpig> speaking of google... I just recently found out I could tie my belkin wemo account to my google home.  now I can do shit like "hey google, turn on the grow lights" and they flip on in the livingroom
08:49 <@Corydon76> I have a project next summer at a clothing optional resort, which will likely do wireless backbone
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08:49 <@Corydon76> The challenge is that there aren't good backbone links for a wooded area
08:50 <@Corydon76> 900MHz has tons of interference, 2.4GHz is too crowded, and 5GHz doesn't penetrate trees well.
08:50 <@Corydon76> Alternatively, we run fiber between trees.
08:52 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, im not super smart on fiber, i assume for something like that you have to purchase already terminated long lines of fiber to connect to dacs? thats not something you can terminate (fuse?) on your own without uber expensive equipment right?
08:52 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I picked up a smart 3-outlet, outdoor rated power adapter off of Amazon this week for less than $30...   and works with Google Home.
08:52 <@Dolemite> Now I can simply go into the kitchen and say, "Hey, Google!  Turn off the Christmas lights."
08:52 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, i really want to get some wemos, they use esp8266's right?
08:52 <@Dolemite> Well, once I have the lights put out
08:53 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, i have a bunch of zwave ones but managing a zwave network turned out to be a huge pain in my ass
08:53 < Synx_hm> i was able to socat the raw serial interface of a zwave controller to an openhab instance but it just kept dropping all the zwave devices
08:53 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: The kits to terminate are around $500 last I checked.  But if you're going to be spending a couple thousand on APs, the cost becomes a bit more reasonable
08:53 <@Dolemite> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CXRRKTQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
08:53 < PigBot> Outdoor Smart Plug, Aicliv Wi-Fi Smart Outlet with 3 Individual Grounded Sockets, Compatible with Alexa and Google Home IFTTT, Remote Control Timer, IP44 Weatherproof for Indoor and Outdoor Use - - Amazon.com (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y88ehvrz
08:54 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, oh thats not bad, i was thinking it was more like 10K
08:54 <@Dolemite> It went up.   I bought mine when it was on Gizmodo's "deal of the day" list
08:54 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, are each of those 3 outlets individually addressable?
08:54 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: you can get them now for under $100
08:55 <@Corydon76> The ones that cost thousands are machines that do the termination for you
08:55 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, wow
08:55 < Synx_hm> i need to do something about the fiber run in my basement, the att installer left no slack in the run so i cant move the ONT and dont have enough slack to put up drywall either
08:56 < Synx_hm> think he left a little in the demarc outside so perhaps i can unspool it there
08:56 <@Corydon76> I'm sure the machines do a very consistent job, and fast, but if you're running on a budget, you may want to do it yourself.
08:56 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm: Yes, according to the specs.   I received it, but haven't had time to set it up and play with it, yet.
08:56 <@dasunt> Watership Down is a BBC production now?
08:57 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: yeah I think that is the right controller
08:58  * Mirage waits for the discussion to move toward buffing and polishing
08:58 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, i took a bunch of esp8266's and soldered them onto cell usb chargers and put temp sensors on them to put around the house, but i didn't have the foresight to get esp8266's with enough flash for over the air programming, and i really dont like having something sitting so close to mains like that, i think some cheap wemos would be a better w
08:58 < Synx_hm> ay to go
08:59 < Synx_hm> tried to rig up a pogo ping programming board but could never get it to sit quite right
09:18 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I will say this.  if you're gonna go the google route with those smart plugs, I am really digging my google home hub dealio
09:19 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, is that the one with the screen?
09:19 <@Evilpig> yeah
09:20 < Synx_hm> does it have a camera?
09:25 <@Evilpig> nope
09:30 <@Evilpig> that google cloud print is kind of neat
09:30 <@Evilpig> through chrome you can connect any printer on your pc out to their cloud service provider
09:32 < Synx_hm> but your local pc needs to always be accessible right?
09:33 < Synx_hm> ohhhh: https://hub.docker.com/r/jaymoulin/google-cloudprint/
09:33 < PigBot>  (at hub.docker.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya9t9ksz
09:33 <@Evilpig> my desktop is always on.  I figured I could fire it up on one of my two windows servers too
09:33 < Synx_hm> wonder if i can get all the same driver features with that (i have a laser color duplex printer)
09:34 <@Evilpig> I can't see why not
09:34 <@Evilpig> I've never been able to print from my phone to my printer here at the house til just now.  I find that neat
09:34 <@ezelkow1> yea pretty sure you can, I have a dell 525 laser, i think, and it has cloud print built in
09:34 <@ezelkow1> so you dont even need a pc on, just as long as the printer is on, anything with cloud print can use it
09:35 <@Evilpig> mine is old as dirt.  brother hl-3070  doesn't support cloud print natively
09:35 <@ezelkow1> still an awesome investment, think ive had that thing like 3+ years now and still not had to replace the toner in it, or really had many issues beyond needing the occaisonal reboot when it looses network
09:36 <@ezelkow1> think i grabbed it during a black friday sale for like 200 or 250 maybe
09:36 <@Evilpig> similar situation when I got this one
09:37 <@Evilpig> had it at least 7 or 8 years now but I have replaced the toner a few times
09:37 <@ezelkow1> though we rarely print anyway, which is why i wanted a color laser to begin with, we would go to print something months down the road just to find the inks all dried up and be pissed
09:38 <@Evilpig> exactly
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09:49 <@Dolemite> Heh, I've lost track of how many toner cartidges I've gone through in my laser printers at home.   They've definitely proved their $60 usefulness over and over.
09:50 <@Dolemite> If I want something in color, it's actually cheaper just to go to OfficeMax.
09:57 <@Corydon76> It's definitely worth it to find a knockoff supplier on Amazon with a warranty
09:57 <@Corydon76> Had one knockoff that was so bad I thought my printer was ruined.  Got a better knockoff, and the printer is back to good-as-new
09:58 < aestetix> oh wow
09:58 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8NUu0jT4r8
09:58 <@Corydon76> As a result, I now have 2 color laser printers
09:58 < PigBot> Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: G. Gordon Liddy: An Enigma (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7kh2zyq
09:58 < aestetix> I had no idea Buckley interviewed Gordon Liddy
09:59 <@Corydon76> There's a Buckley interview with Allen Ginsberg, while he was in his Hare Krishna phase.
10:00 <@Corydon76> I can't imagine that there is a contemporary that Buckley didn't interview
10:00 < aestetix> Corydon76: I have seen that interview
10:00 < aestetix> And uh.... I think Ginsberg smoked a bunch of pot before the interview
10:09 <@Corydon76> Oh, I don't think so.  I think he was remarkably sober at the time
10:09 <@Shadow404> yeah, just spun of my first ec2 instance
10:09 <@Corydon76> The problem is in taking his philosophy and condensing it down for Buckley's audience
10:09 <@Shadow404> of/up
10:14 < aestetix> Corydon76: as opposed to his interview with Tim Leary
10:16 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpoZBhvBa4
10:16 < aestetix> if anyone is interested
10:16 < PigBot> Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: The Avant Garde (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9xcvjkx
10:33 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, what are you using to proxy that traffic to your unifi controller, i am having a hell of a time getting haproxy to work with backends that are also ssl
10:46 <@Evilpig> just apache
10:47 <@Evilpig> https://gist.github.com/wilpig/49e373b5931920b7a7986a0e26e87420
10:48 < PigBot> ubifi.wilpig.com.conf · GitHub (at gist.github.com) http://tinyurl.com/yavoysaj
10:49 < Synx_hm> cool thanks
10:51 <@Evilpig> if i remember right you might have to pass port 3478 udp over as well for the stun stuff
10:51 <@Evilpig> it might be tcp too
10:52 <@Evilpig> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115015457668-UniFi-Troubleshooting-STUN-Communication-Errors
10:52 < PigBot> UniFi - Troubleshooting STUN Communication Errors – Ubiquiti Networks Support and Help Center (at help.ubnt.com) http://tinyurl.com/yazjj8hw
10:52 < Synx_hm> im just trying to get fucking haproxy working at all at this point, i cant even get it to proxy ssl to my ip camera
12:06 < Synx_hm> anybody using a document tracking system for scanned documents or e-docs
12:07 < Synx_hm> shit like taxes stuff, ins stuff etc
12:13 <@dasunt> So with 3D printing, where's that at now for durability, etc?
12:19 < Synx_hm> dasunt, i think there are some powered metal filaments now that have a bit of plastic to hold the power together that you can then process after the print to cure the metal i think by baking
12:20 <@dasunt> I kind of figure that if I need 3D printing, I should just go with one of the companies online that do 3D printing on demand.
12:20 <@dasunt> But I've yet to have a real use for it that I couldn't satisfy otherwise.
12:22 < Synx_hm> i have a few uses for it but not enough knowledge to trust myself to create the correct print the first time to send to somebody else to do it
12:23 < Synx_hm> i need some parts for a canoe transom motor mount im building and also for a stroller axle
12:25 < Synx_hm> but you are right i should probably just give it a try and send it to a printing service
12:27 <@dasunt> Square stern canoe?  Or regular canoe?
12:46 <@Evilpig> Best i've kept up with printing at home is good for prototyping and will last a while but it's cheap plastic.  so once you've printed at home and got the design done good send it to one of the places that does the higher quality metal jobs
12:46 <@Shadow404> rofl: https://youtu.be/F0FhpucpJs4
12:46 < PigBot> Live PD: Carjacking the Cops (Season 3) | A&E (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/yc68erny
12:47 <@Shadow404> this chick is ballsy
12:49 < aestetix> she hs balls?
12:50 <@Shadow404> by the looks of it
13:28 < Synx_hm> dasunt, regular i am going to use 80/20 profiles to make a stern mount instead of the saddle side mount for a trolling motor
13:29 < Synx_hm> dasunt, also plan to ditch the resistance load based speed control for a PWM controller that ill likely have to build myself
13:43 <@dasunt> I'd probably do the side mount myself.
13:43 <@dasunt> Gave away a square stern canoe to my sister, btw.  Thing weighed 85lbs.  Nope, nope, nope.
13:43 <@Shadow404> whatever happened to poywood a d some screws?
13:44 <@Shadow404> why we have to 3d print everything now?
13:44 <@Shadow404> *plywood
13:44 <@dasunt> I think it was spring of '17 that I first took it out, and I thought "I'm getting to old to portage this".  Went to Craigslist and found a kevlar canoe a few days later.
13:44 <@dasunt> Now I'm at about 42 lbs for the canoe, which means I can carry the canoe and a pack at the same time.  Much easier.  Quicker too.
13:45 <@dasunt> I agree with you on the plywood and screws though.  IDK.  I can see the usefulness of 3D printing, but I'm not sure if it's useful enough for me to get into.
13:46 <@Shadow404> no, i see its usefulness for precision stuff, buts its slower
13:47 <@Shadow404> but for quick fixes, not so much
13:47 <@Shadow404> half the time i see people frustrated trying to get the printer working right
13:48 <@Shadow404> or endless versions of the finished product and design
13:48 <@dasunt> That's part of the reason I'm tempted to avoid it.
13:48 <@dasunt> I'd rather not fiddle for 2 - 3 days when I need to print something (say) every 6 months.
13:58 <@dasunt> I probably should figure out if I can cast rubber boots though.  Or repair them.  Got a tear on one at the end on an old part.  :(
14:01 <@Shadow404> flexseal...
14:04 < Synx_hm> and now flexshot
14:04 < Synx_hm> both for the price of one
14:04 < Synx_hm> watch as i patch this 3 in hold in a bucket
14:05 < Synx_hm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aH9H8fTfAI
14:05 < PigBot> Flex Seal Clear Commercial Flex Seal Clear As Seen On TV Clear Rubber In A Can With Phil Swift (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycp79yv6
14:14 < Synx_hm> MOTHER FUCKER
14:14 < Synx_hm> the aa website was all foobar all morning so i couldn't get my $11 seat
14:14 < Synx_hm> guess what seats are now gone
14:15 < Synx_hm> and the site is still foobar i cant checkin
14:15 < xray> I think someone here said they own a Google Home? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/31/google_home_api/
14:15 < PigBot> This one weird trick turns your Google Home Hub into a doorstop • The Register (at www.theregister.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/ycjnmldd
14:16 < Synx_hm> WTF
14:16 <@Dagmar> I've got a bunch of them
14:16 <@Dagmar> "doorstop" is misrepresentative
14:17 < xray> I agree. It implied bricking the device. It just requires a reset
14:17 < xray> an attacker would also have to be on your network to do this
14:17 <@Dagmar> Yep
14:18 < xray> I would assume a patch will be coming
14:18 <@Dagmar> Although the idea of malware doing it is interesting, there's not really way to close that API and still be able to configure the things
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15:15 < Synx_hm> whelp fuck me
15:15 < Synx_hm> dr just called they wanted to do another liver panel on me last month, now they want me to go get my liver imaged
15:24 <@Evilpig> better get to drinking quickly
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16:09 < Synx_hm> indeed
17:14 <@Shadow404> this is what happens when furries find jobs: https://www.atlanta.net/events/detail/brother-coyote-and-sister-fox/112035/
17:14 < PigBot>  Brother Coyote and Sister Fox - Event in Atlanta, GA  (at www.atlanta.net) http://tinyurl.com/ybf5trem
17:14 <@Shadow404> truly terrifying
17:19 <@dasunt> For as much shit as furries get, usually they tend to keep to thhemselves.
17:19 <@Shadow404> well, these folks found a way to monetize, so props to them
17:22 <@Dagmar> Whether or not this way *works* has yet to be seen
17:22 <@dasunt> You did say furries, so I just assumed the link was NSFW.
17:23 <@dasunt> Didn't actually look to see how it was monitorized.
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18:52 <@Shadow404> dasunt: its sfw, its a link to a childrens playhouse
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