--- Log opened Mon Oct 01 00:00:58 2018 06:50 <@Dolemite_> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:51 -!- Dolemite_ is now known as Dolemite 06:53 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:58 <@Dolemite> The irony with Panera Bread is that the only bread I've ever seen people buy from there is in the form of pastries, which I don't think is technically bread. 06:58 <@Dolemite> Maybe they also have banana bread 06:59 <@Dolemite> I suppose croissants are considered bread, rather than a pastry 07:35 <@Evilpig> https://www.vumc.org/ccm/m1pam 07:35 < PigBot> We Are Developing a New Approach for Memory Impairment. We Need Healthy Adults Age 18-55 to Help Us | Center for Cognitive Medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center (at www.vumc.org) http://tinyurl.com/yd466ame 07:36 <@Evilpig> $1200 if you have some time to kill and meet their criteria 08:57 <@Mirage> i'm having some trouble figuring out why our vRealize automation support team is being required to take International Export Controls training. 08:58 <@Mirage> That ranks right there to me with having kitchen staff in a hospital have to take HIPAA training. 08:59 <@Dolemite> Yep, and the fact that someone who simply has access to the facility where drive arrays are running has to take HIPAA training and answer all these questions about ethical research protocols. 09:01 <@Mirage> on a separate note, two of our cats have new, highly annoying, habits. When they want attention they will paw at you. Anne comes up and paws at my arm here at my desk. Pete likes to come jump on the bed/couch/etc and paw at your face. 09:07 <@Mirage> Oh, and I caought Gizmo playing in the kitchen sink. After shooing her off a couple of times I turned on the water to see if that would make her decide to leave it alone. Instead she started playing with the water.. So now she jumps on the counter, sits by the sink, and starts yowling until you turn the water on for her to play with for a couple of minutes 09:09 <@Evilpig> britney is calling about my chronic pain again! 09:12 < aestetix> is she hot? 09:12 <@Evilpig> I dunno. they hung up on me when I asked to speak to britney again 09:16 <@Dolemite> She's still contemplating your last response to her. 09:16 < aestetix> Evilpig: you should send her a photo of your cock 09:17 < aestetix> You do have chickens, right? 09:18 <@Evilpig> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nPqthpK7wocernRn7 09:18 < PigBot> Shared album - Wilbur Longwisch - Google Photos (at photos.app.goo.gl) http://tinyurl.com/yce6sndb 09:20 < aestetix> yeah send her that 09:20 < aestetix> it'll get her excited 09:23 <@Mirage> https://www.ajc.com/news/traffic/breaking-overturned-livestock-trailer-shuts-down-285-ramp-cobb-county/ 09:23 < PigBot> 404 09:24 <@Mirage> I like this quote...'There are “major bovine delays on the west side of I-285,” according to the WSB 24-hour Traffic Center.' 09:26 < aestetix> Evilpig: you could send her a dick pic too 09:26 < aestetix> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Dick_Van_Dyke_1959.jpg/220px-Dick_Van_Dyke_1959.jpg 09:26 < PigBot> None (at upload.wikimedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/y9gbaazy 09:26 < aestetix> for example 09:55 < dasunt> Mirage: I think it'll just leave us with a lot of bullshit in the end. 09:59 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:03 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 10:16 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:14 < dasunt> Ummmm: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/151468/meet-new-nafta-almost-old-nafta-different-name 12:14 < PigBot> Meet the new NAFTA, almost the same as the old NAFTA but with a different name. | The New Republic (at newrepublic.com) http://tinyurl.com/y82v9ju8 12:14 < dasunt> Speaking of bullshit. 12:15 < aestetix> what did he renegotiate? 12:15 < aestetix> besides the name 12:17 < dasunt> Well, he got a fraction of a percent more of the Canadian dairy market than he would have under the TPP. 12:43 < aestetix> good god does nobody use editors anymore 12:43 < aestetix> https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409268-trump-fbi-should-do-what-they-have-to-do-in-kavanaugh-investigation 12:43 < PigBot> Trump wants 'comprehensive' but 'quick' FBI investigation on Kavanaugh | TheHill (at thehill.com) http://tinyurl.com/yansmm7r 12:43 < aestetix> "Now with that being said, I’d like it go go quickly," he continued. 12:43 < aestetix> like, even just rereading what you wrote, you'd be able to catch that 12:52 < dasunt> aestetix: Editors are boring 14:22 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxhvpeodktpnjbue] has joined #se2600 14:23 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 14:27 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:40 <@brimstone> if you get investigated by the FBI after your job interview, don't you usually not get the job? 14:44 < xray> not necessarily. Some jobs are contingent on a security clearance which involves a background investigation. The thoroughness of investigation is contingent on the clearance being sought. 14:45 < xray> So you get the job and then they apply for the clearance. If you don't get it, they let you go. 14:46 < xray> Granted, SCOTUS judge is not your regular sort of job. 14:46 <@Corydon76> The other question is what happens if the FBI report finds that you lied extensively in your job interview. 14:48 <@Corydon76> Easily lying might be an asset in the CIA, but they generally don't like it when you lie to your employer. 14:58 < dasunt> SCOTUS should get an in-depth FBI investigation. 14:58 < dasunt> Ditto congressional candidates, presidential candidates, etc. 15:00 < dasunt> Also, I call for an FBI investigation to find Collin's spine. She's lost it. 15:20 <@eryc> that one accuser thats not being interviewed was sued by an old employer for lying about her education and work history 15:21 <@Corydon76> At this point, I think it's clear that Kavanaugh is a pathological liar. The evidence is that he lies about things to make himself look good in the moment, even if the lie is easily discoverable. 15:37 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-173-250-218.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:40 -!- Warcop [~josh@mobile-166-173-250-218.mycingular.net] has joined #se2600 15:53 <@Mirage> Corydon76: they can spin information and disinformation any which way they want in the media. unless you are actually in the room hearing whatever it is being stated then it is completely open to manipulation and should be taken with a grain of salt 15:54 <@Corydon76> Mirage: It was televised by C-SPAN and the hearing was transcribed. 15:55 <@Corydon76> C-SPAN is controlled by Congress, so the idea that the transcript is not reliable is laughable. 15:55 <@Mirage> and there was no picking/choosing, exclusion, etc of any information presented by any part in order to spin it? 15:56 <@Corydon76> Of the C-SPAN telecast? Remember, the GOP is in control of both Houses, and therefore, controls C-SPAN. 15:57 <@Corydon76> So, are you thinking that this rather damaging transcript from C-SPAN was somehow manipulated? 15:58 <@Corydon76> I've said before, all Kavanaugh had to do was say that he didn't remember something, rather than try to bluster through an explanation and end up telling a lie. 35 years ago, anybody could be excused for not remembering. 15:59 <@Corydon76> That's what makes his testimony so damning -- he did it to himself. He lied in front of Congress, while under oath, and he didn't have to do that. 15:59 <@Mirage> I have a relative that was in a shooting and originally released because it was clearly a case of self-defense. A few days later he was arrested for 2nd deg murder, and somehow all the evidence that exhonerated him of wrongdoing was deemed inadmissible..so he was convicted and next year will have spent 8 yrs in jail just because (as my aunt who worked for an OK congressman found out through her connections) the DA was up for re-election and wanted a fres 16:00 <@Corydon76> Mirage: I'm sorry to hear that, but I don't understand what that has to do with a judge lying to Congress. 16:01 <@Mirage> And the truth is that yes, he should have just said "I don't remeber", which any sane person should accept, but would have still been crucified in the media further for it. 16:01 <@Corydon76> Mirage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE 16:01 < PigBot> Don't Talk to the Police (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/qfoo849 16:01 <@Mirage> politicians do whatever they do to benefit themselves and whatever fucked up thing drives people into modern politics 16:14 < dasunt> Well, we'd have to grow up as a nation as well. 16:33 < K`Tetch> that would require giving up some of the most cherished lies, some of which are central to many people. 16:33 < K`Tetch> for instance, a lot of the ignorance over the 2nd amendment, I place at the feet of the USMC 16:35 < K`Tetch> I mean, when was the USMC founded? 16:38 < xray> sorry I'm not getting the connection. 16:42 < K`Tetch> most people will say november 10 1775, and not the right answer of 11 july 1798. It hides that there was no armed forces from 1783-1792, which was why the second amdnement was writtena nd passed, and when it failed thats when the army, then the navy, then the marines were reformed 16:45 <@Dagmar> Still that's an invalid deduction 16:46 <@Dagmar> ...because... it failed? We were again conquered by the British? 16:48 < xray> and you have some historical document that shows that was causative and not just coincidental? 16:50 <@Dagmar> It was part of the Bill of Rights from the outset. It was actually and genuinely based on the English Bill of Rights, of which one of the stated reasons for was explicitly resistance to oppression, in addition to mere self-defense 16:51 <@Dagmar> James Madison wrote about the damn thing with respect to the people and their militias keeping the federal government in check 16:51 < xray> This is my understanding as well. 16:51 <@Dagmar> The Federal Governement is not supposed to be the "highest" authority in the land 16:52 <@Dagmar> Things have just been weakened remarkably in the last 75 years or so 16:52 < xray> The people are, hence Government of the People. 16:52 < xray> of - meaning by 16:52 <@Dagmar> Well, State and Federal institutions are supposed to be separate with Federal only having the lead in cases of things that happen between states 16:53 <@Dagmar> States are supposed to be allowed self-determination, and people are supposed to be allowed to overrule that 16:53 <@Dagmar> ...but this oversimplification of the causes of the Civil War makes this hard to see 16:53 < xray> Unfortunately that has long not been the case and now they do just about everything except what they are chartered to do. 16:55 <@Dagmar> People shoudl be made to read all the things the framers of the constitution actually wrote, beyond just the constitution 16:55 <@Dagmar> None of this shit would be vague 16:56 < xray> There is a dc404 member that gave a talk on the debate over the second amendment and it is not as clear cut as one would think. 16:57 < xray> he used to run atl2600 16:57 < xray> can't remember his nick 16:58 < xray> Tom Cross 16:58 < xray> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0-g-cjxmM 16:58 < PigBot> The Second Amendment: A Refreshing Perspective | Dragon Con EFForums (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7dtbvn5 17:02 < xray> He covers the historical perspectives 17:04 < xray> I don't recall it mentioning the formation of a standing army as having anything to do with the 2nd ammendment. 17:06 <@brimstone> ol' decius 17:12 < xray> I take it back there was a reference to a standing army and the fear that the central government would use it against the states in the same way that England had done. https://youtu.be/pp0-g-cjxmM?t=804 17:12 < PigBot> The Second Amendment: A Refreshing Perspective | Dragon Con EFForums (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/y7tqg4pw 18:03 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 18:07 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:30 < aestetix> ok so 18:31 < aestetix> this is a longshot 18:31 < aestetix> but does anyone here have a nintendo powerglove they'd be willing to donate to me? 18:31 < aestetix> I'm happy to pay for shipping to germany 18:32 < aestetix> ideally working but..... maybe not necessary. especially since I understand the original barely worked :p 19:39 <@Evilpig> :q 19:39 <@Evilpig> doh! 19:47 < K`Tetch_> xray - i know tom's arguments, some of it was a little off. 19:48 < K`Tetch_> the militarys were all disbanded in1784 9twice) and thent he 2ndA was designed to be a citizen armed force. it was heavily pushed by Madison (who touted his experience as a militia XO, of course, he was Xo to his dad, and his dad made sure he never saw combat) 19:48 < K`Tetch_> 3 months after the 2ndA took effect, you had the battle of the wabash under st clair, biggest defeat in US history 19:48 < K`Tetch_> it caused the first congressional investigation, and in return, washington had the first cabinet emeting to decide how to respond, and declaired executivepriviledge 19:49 < K`Tetch_> but it almost killed his presidency. so he passed hte militia acts, and established the army (as the US legion) and the 2ndA was effectively shelved for its intended purpose. 20:17 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 20:18 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@161.134.188.35.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #se2600 20:18 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@161.134.188.35.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Changing host] 20:18 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 20:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 20:27 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxhvpeodktpnjbue] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:18 < Warcop> I'm going to need to write some stuff about https://mobileconnect.io/ 23:18 < PigBot> Home - Mobile Connect (at mobileconnect.io) http://tinyurl.com/yaepfjrt 23:19 < Warcop> AKA "Project Verify" and to help facilitate more information in response to https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/project-verify 23:19 < PigBot> The Devil Is in The Details Of Project Verify’s Goal To Eliminate Passwords | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org) http://tinyurl.com/ydgtjh85 --- Log closed Tue Oct 02 00:00:59 2018