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06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:24  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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09:26 < dasunt> I know this is veering off into opinionated grumpy old man territory, but I suspect the quality of driving would improve if everyone had to drive a manual transmission.
09:26 <@brimstone> i'm unconvinced
09:27 < dasunt> At the very least, it makes holding a cell phone difficult.
09:28 < dasunt> Really though, we should probably up the difficulty of our driving tests, and retest people every decade or so.  But most Americans drive, including most voters, so that's not really going to happen.
09:28 <@brimstone> i'm pro retesting
09:29 <@brimstone> if only so the judge can say "well, you knew the rules 18 months ago..."
09:29 <@oddball> I have to agree on the having to retest.
09:30 <@oddball> As for the cellphones, etc, I looked it up a while ago, and the average accident rate hasn't really changed with the introduction of cell phones.
09:31 < dasunt> Really?
09:31 <@oddball> yep.  Kind of surprised me, too.
09:32  * dasunt looks.
09:32 < xray> that is surprising
09:33 < xray> it also depends on how the measure the rate
09:34 < xray> If the number of accidents per period stayed the same but the driving population dropped by half then the rate actually doubled.
09:34 < dasunt> Well, you'd want to measure it by million miles traveled.
09:35 < dasunt> Which I'm not finding how that changed over time.
09:35 < xray> off the top of my head I agree with that
09:35 < xray> but I'd still think about it. Statistics is anything but obvious.
09:35 < dasunt> OTOH, I found that 80+ drivers have far less chance of injuring someone as a 16-17 driver, but the 80+ driver has an equal chance of a fatal crash as a 16-17 year old.
09:36 < xray> that is odd
09:36 <@oddball> Which makes sense, when you think about it.
09:37 < xray> dasunt: Do you have a link to the report?
09:37 < dasunt> Looks like after about 70, if someone is involved in a crash, it's most likely to kill themselves.
09:37 <@oddball> 16-17 year olds are newbs and still learning.  Also, there's going to be a certain number of 16-17 year olds that never should have been behind the wheel, and elimate themselves from teh gene pool.
09:37 < dasunt> http://aaafoundation.org/rates-motor-vehicle-crashes-injuries-deaths-relation-driver-age-united-states-2014-2015/
09:37 < PigBot> Rates of Motor Vehicle Crashes, Injuries and Deaths in Relation to Driver Age, United States, 2014-2015 - AAA Foundation (at aaafoundation.org) http://tinyurl.com/yaqynmz7
09:37 <@oddball> They're also less risk-averse that 80+.
09:38 < xray> dasunt: thanks
09:38 <@oddball> one the other hand, they're also more reselient than those in the 80+, so they can shake off more than the 80+ folks.
09:38 < dasunt> I still haven't found the crash rate per million miles traveled and how it varies over time.
09:38 <@oddball> I wish I could bring it up for you, but this was a couple years ago.
09:41 < dasunt> I can find the death rates, but I'm not sure how that compares with improved vehicle safety standards.
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11:27 <@Dolemite> Oh, man.   Kubernetes on bare metal just got a shitload easier now that they've finally released a provisioner for NFS storage.
11:28 <@Dolemite> Well, released as in beta, but everything Google does is beta.
11:57 <@brimstone> when's the phreaknic schedule going to be finalized?
11:57 <@brimstone> i'm curious about getting it on hackertracker
13:03 <@Evilpig> Mirage: your content is ready for retrieval
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13:44 <@Mirage> Evilpig: retreval in progress
13:47 <@Mirage> When animals attack!  http://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/2018/09/27/seal-slaps-kayaker-with-octopus-in-funny-video-what-just-happened.html
13:47 < PigBot> Seal slaps kayaker with octopus in funny video: 'What just happened?' | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7nd4vaj
13:48 < dfused> seals are assholes
14:00 <@Mirage> lol
14:00 <@Mirage> http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/09/27/north-dakota-womans-halloween-decoration-freaks-out-neighbors-prompts-police-response.html
14:00 < PigBot> North Dakota woman's Halloween decoration freaks out neighbors, prompts police response | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/y89nu66p
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14:17 <@Mirage> Pretty fucked up.   My biggest question is "What kind of hormones were they giving this kid?"  https://www.kcci.com/article/woman-admits-letting-boyfriend-assault-10-year-old-daughter-resulting-in-pregnancy/23488566
14:17 < PigBot> Woman admits letting boyfriend assault 10-year-old daughter, resulting in pregnancy (at www.kcci.com) http://tinyurl.com/yauagvse
14:20 < dasunt> Um, if she allowed it, shouldn't she face just as serious charges at the bf?
14:20 < dasunt> Because IMO, both should never be allowed around children ever again.
14:21 <@Mirage> for sure.
14:21 <@Mirage> And this is crazy.. "Lina Medina, a Peruvian girl born in 1933, began menstruating at the age of eight months, was tragically raped as a 5-year-old and gave birth at six years, five months. She is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history."
14:22 <@Corydon76> Ripley's had her age at birth at 3.
14:26 <@Corydon76> Interesting that she's still living, but her son died in 1979.
14:30 <@Mirage> I really don't like how some of these laws are worded..or at least reportedly worded.  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/27/dutch-cyclists-face-mobile-phone-ban
14:30 < PigBot> Dutch cyclists face mobile phone ban | World news | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) http://tinyurl.com/yb5utgqm
14:31 <@Mirage> 'A draft law scheduled to take effect next July will extend an existing 2002 ban on car and lorry drivers using their mobile phones at the wheel unless in hands-free mode to “the use of a mobile electronic device while driving any vehicle (including a bicycle)”.'
14:32 <@Corydon76> Probably intended to cover someone driving erratically on a motorcycle or trike, but the police couldn't do anything.
14:32 <@Mirage> "use of a mobile electronic device.."  With wording like that a cop could cite you for using something as stupid as a garage door opener.
14:33 <@Corydon76> How many people operate a garage door opener with it not clipped to something?
14:34 <@Corydon76> Or maybe someone was using a tablet and argued that that wasn't covered
14:35 <@Corydon76> When lawmakers banned texting while driving, clearly that doesn't cover playing games, right?
14:35 <@Mirage> Corydon76: I keep mine in the center console..
14:35 <@Corydon76> Candy Crush at 80mph
14:38 <@Mirage> How about something much more common...like use of a portable mp3 player..while riding a bicycle.  that would most certainly fall into the category of mobile electronic device.
14:38 <@Mirage> And let's not forget all the smart watches that are becoming more and more popular
14:42 <@Mirage> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/09/27/gay-penguins-kidnap-chick-from-parents-at-denmark-zoo-after-dad-neglected-it.html
14:42 < PigBot> Gay penguins 'kidnap' chick from parents at Denmark zoo after dad 'neglected' it | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9gjrohr
14:43 < dfused> ty for reminding me how fucked up Fox news is.  not that i had really forgotten
14:43 <@Mirage> I'm curious how they decided the penguins were 'gay'.
14:43 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck do you not blacklist foxnews.com
14:43 <@Corydon76> Mirage: you do know that birds have sex, right?
14:44 <@Mirage> Corydon76: no they don't..they come from eggs.  =P
14:44 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I need a good laugh every so often?
14:44 <@Corydon76> https://www.ranker.com/list/terrifying-penguin-sex-mating-facts/cynthia-griffith
14:44 < PigBot> 10 Terrifying Facts You Can't Unlearn About Penguin Sex (at www.ranker.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya437fnd
14:47 <@Corydon76> NSFW (depicts gay penguin sex): https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/penguin-sex-mating-habits
14:47 < PigBot> Why Are Penguins' Sex Lives So Scandalous? - Atlas Obscura (at www.atlasobscura.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydcq74mn
14:47  * Mirage should have known better than to get this started.
14:50 <@Corydon76> You are absolutely correct that birds lay eggs.  But they also have sex.
15:30 < dasunt> So are the gay penguins indoctrinating the chick into the rainbow lifestyle?
15:31 < dasunt> Are their penguin pride parades?
15:31  * dasunt needs to know.
15:32 < dfused> that would be amazing to watch
15:32 < dasunt> "Amazing" is not the right emotion to feel during a moral panic.
15:33 < dasunt> Remember, they told us this would happen if we legalized gay marriage.
15:36 < dasunt> WTF is up with CL right now?
15:36 < dasunt> Weird ass pricing on motorcycles (not that I need another one just yet).
15:37 <@Corydon76> Biologists also caution us not to ascribe any particular sexuality to animals.  At best, we might describe some species as bisexual, as they can and do switch mates, even to the point of picking the opposite sex.
15:38 <@Corydon76> dasunt: might it have anything to do with various steel and aluminum tariffs?
15:38 < dasunt> Corydon76: I think it has to do with idiots.  Which incidentally were the cause of the tariffs, but otherwise unrelated.
15:38 < dasunt> My hypothesis is that a lot of the smarter sellers went to sell in September - at the end of the warm weather season.  Now the pricing is erratic.
15:39 < dasunt> Stuff like, torn apart, not running CB450 for $1000, because some idiot wanted to make a cafe racer then got bored.
15:39 <@Mirage> What about things like clown fish that are all born male but will turn female when there isn't a dominant female in the group?
15:39 < dasunt> On the flip side, cheaper '80s motorcycle with lower miles and clean titles for about the same price.
15:41 <@Corydon76> Mirage: transgender species?
15:41 < dasunt> Hmmm.  I should buy a goldwing now, judging by the prices.
15:42 <@Corydon76> dasunt: you should start a motorcycle collection that makes oddball's knife collection look like a minor hobby
15:45 < dasunt> I run out of space sooner or later.
15:47 <@Corydon76> That's why you need to move into an old airplane hangar.
15:59 <@Mirage> Here's a scooter for ya... https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/d/custom-stretch-150cc-moped/6678009916.html
15:59 < PigBot> Custom stretch 150cc moped - motorcycles/scooters - by owner - vehicle automotive bike sale (at dallas.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/yd6kuej5
16:10 <@Dagmar> It looks like it still has fucktard tires on it
16:12 <@Mirage> The rear tire looks like one off a "pocket" bike
16:12 <@Mirage> i wouldn't be suprised if the whole "stretch" was actually taken from a "pocket
16:13 <@Dagmar> Some of the chinese bikes have the shitty-small wheels on them, even at 150cc displacement
16:14 <@Dagmar> It makes for a terrible ride
16:14 <@Dagmar> I had plenty of time to notice how wobbly the little wheels felt
16:22 < dasunt> WTF?
16:22 < dasunt> That's one odd scooter.
16:26 < dasunt> I do kind of want an old Honda Goldwing...
16:26 < dasunt> IDK why.
16:28 < dasunt> Speaking of crazy people, '95 Goldwing, 90k miles, $3k.  Hmmmm, nope.
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20:22 < K`Tetch_> here's a fun thing for you xray - https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/9jgc3t/any_information_on_this_used_as_a_doorstop_in_my/
20:22 < PigBot> Any information on this? Used as a doorstop in my grandparents house, seems as though its been fired due to rifling marks on the side. All top sections rotate freely on threads. : whatisthisthing (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/y733d8av
20:22 < K`Tetch_> ack, wrong link, sorry
20:22 < K`Tetch_> https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/9ixdh9/found_hooked_up_to_my_router/e6nh61r/
20:22 < PigBot> Found hooked up to my router : whatisthisthing (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya3juhq2
20:23 < Warcop> yeah that's making the rounds.. interesting read
20:24 < K`Tetch_> ah ok. I'm back on my pc after being away all week (MiL's on her death bed)
20:31 < xray> The first link was still interesting
20:36 < xray> Apparently the room mate proves the saying that there is one born every minute.
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