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03:27 < aestetix> I now get to enjoy my first and last coffee of the day
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06:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:21  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:18 < xray> aestetix: thatt's rough.
09:09 < aestetix> so many fucking interruptions
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10:03  * dasunt tells himself, once again, not to care about his job.
10:03 < dasunt> :(
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10:53 < TheDukh> How's everyone doing?
11:16 < dasunt> The part of me that cares about best practices died a bit more today.
11:16 < dasunt> TBH, I'm still amazed that can happen.
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11:19  * dasunt looks on the bright side:  He's learning a lot about career-focused managers lately.
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11:39 <@Mirage> :q
11:42 <@Mirage> I think I complained to Spectrum effectively enough this last time because yesterday they sent out 2 techs...neither had been here before.   They actually identified the issue as a "line problem" upstream from my tap at the road and escalated it for repair.
11:44 <@Mirage> I'm wondering if the downtime from 2:17 - 2:26 this morning was them actually fixing it.  Haven't seen any packet loss since..
11:44  * Mirage is not holding his breath.
11:50 < dasunt> Damn, "Fear" has a print run of a million now.
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11:59 < dasunt> Um, why is there talk of the Torys scheming to get rid of Theresa May?
12:01 < dasunt> ISTM there's a sword to be fallen upon, and Ms. May is in the middle of the act.  Replacing her isn't going to help anything.
12:17 < Psilovybin> dasunt: I really like this guy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJomjykLsNI
12:17 < PigBot> CNN Finally Sees the Light? (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycz8enhf
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12:24 <@Mirage> Has anyone configured irssi to use tls?
12:24 < Psilovybin> Mirage: are you getting an error?
12:25 <@Mirage> I'm trying to figure out how to configure it in the .irssi/config file... all I can find are commands to run, not anything about adding to the config
12:26 < Psilovybin> try this: /server add -auto -tls -tls_verify -network freenode -port 6697 chat.freenode.net
12:26 < Psilovybin> then type in /save and it should save to the config file
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12:29 < dasunt> Okay, this is a mildly clever way to get around not having a motorcycle jack:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-NzKhjXW0g
12:29 < PigBot> How to lift rear of a motorcycle with car jack (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7th4rad
12:30 < Psilovybin> dasunt: a little dangerous but yea, crafty
12:32 < Psilovybin> harbor frieght has a motorcycle jack that's 90 bucks.. totally worth it, my dad has one. i actually used it to take the transmission out of my car and it worked like a dream.. :)
12:33 < dasunt> I just don't want to store it, TBH.  ;)
12:33 < dasunt> There's a few things I dislike about the video posted - how it sits on the one jack stand seems iffy while jacking, and not having any tie-downs for the motorcycle.
12:36 < dasunt> Ummm, look at the weight capacity of this:  https://www.sears.com/xtremepowerus-300lb-motorcycle-hydraulic-scissor-floor-jack-lift/p-A021863215?plpSellerId=idrack&prdNo=9&blockNo=9&blockType=G9
12:36 < PigBot> Sears.com (at www.sears.com)
12:36 < Psilovybin> what would be clever is if someone could make some feet to strap around the footpegs or something that just clamps on...
12:36 < Psilovybin> LOL
12:36 < Psilovybin> wow
12:37 < Psilovybin> 300 lbs..  hope people don't get that for a goldwing... lol
12:37 < Psilovybin> it's so cute though
12:38 < Psilovybin> funny part is, the wheels don't come with it
12:39 < Psilovybin> https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lbs-capacity-atvmotorcycle-lift-61632.html
12:39 < PigBot> 1500 lbs. Capacity ATV/Motorcycle Lift (at www.harborfreight.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7bt3clo
12:41 < Psilovybin> what was nice about using that to pull my transmission out of my car is i could put a block of wood under the other side to balance it out while getting the transmission off the input shaft and then right back on again...   very nice.. saved my back
12:41 < Psilovybin> also, it has holes in it to strap things down
12:51 < dasunt> Psilovybin: My old naked Honda 400cc bike is about 375 lbs dry weight.
12:51 < dasunt> So I'm guessing 200cc trail bike, maybe that would be good for?
12:51 < dasunt> 50cc scooter?
12:52 < Psilovybin> dasunt: aye.. i mean, 300lbs is ok.. but for serious riders, that 300lbs jack wouldn't be worth nothing... :)  safety of my bike and myself included i would like overkill on that.  i don't want a vehicle falling on me and/or the damage done to my ride
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12:54 < Psilovybin> Mirage: did that work?
12:54 <@Mirage> no
12:54 < Psilovybin> :/
12:54 <@Mirage> CentOS doesn't trust the cert
12:54 < Psilovybin> ahhhh hang tight
12:54 < Psilovybin> openssl req -newkey rsa:2048 -days 730 -x509 -keyout irssi.key -out irssi.crt -nodes
12:54 < Psilovybin> cat irssi.crt irssi.key > ~/.irssi/irssi.pem
12:54 < Psilovybin> chmod 600 ~/.irssi/irssi.pem
12:55 < Psilovybin> rm irssi.crt irssi.key
12:55 <@Mirage> that's for using a cert to login.
12:55 < Psilovybin> oh, i thought that's what ya needed my bad
12:55 <@Mirage> I'm unable to connect via irssi because the root/intermediate signing certs are not trusted
12:56 <@Mirage> I grabbed them, but still no luck.
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12:57 <@Mirage> It also doesn't help that the CN for the different servers show different names and aren't presenting an alias of "chat.freenode.net" as the documentation claims they should
12:57 <@Mirage> if they are, irssi is ignoring it
12:58 <@Mirage> I'm still fighting with it
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13:04 < dasunt> Try hitting it with the pointy end!
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13:06 < Psilovybin> i'm back
13:07 < Psilovybin> some reason, my ip address is in a spam block or something.. lol
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13:07 < Psilovybin> i wifi tether to my phone because isp's suck around where i live
13:07 <@Mirage> yeah....screw it.
13:08 < Psilovybin> 128 yards away, i could have 200mbit cable for $50 a month, but the only thing available is satellite internet, WiMax 12mbit, or dsl 6mbit for $160 a month
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13:15 < Psilovybin> Mirage: i just tried setting the tls oon mine and I have the +Z flag
13:15 < Psilovybin> mirage: Mode change [+RZi] for user Psilovybin
13:16 <@Mirage> I knew a guy years ago that moved into a new house kind of outside the city limit of the town he moved to (eagleville, shelbyville, something like that).  There was a cable drop from the pole to his house so he hooked it up to a TV and had cable TV.
13:16 <@Mirage> After some channel surfing he finally found the guide and called the cable company to order a cable modem, which they offered.
13:17 <@Mirage> Not only did they claim that he couldn't get cable internet from them, but they claimed they didn't even service the address he was at.
13:17 < Psilovybin> mirage: aye, i did that in an apartment complex i lived in years ago, found the panel, hooked up a splitter to my apartment and viola... Highly illegal but when yer young, whatever man... lol
13:18 <@Mirage> He had to tolerate ISDN for almost 3 years before the cable company 'fixed the glitch' of him having free cable TV and was then able to call in and actually order TV and Internet from them
13:18 <@Mirage> Psilovybin: using irssi on a CentOS 6 server?
13:18 < Psilovybin> you could, back in the day climb the pole and hook up the cable back up and get service
13:18 < Psilovybin> no, running irssi on gentoo ~amd64
13:19 <@Mirage> Obviously gentoo trusts letsencypt and CentOS doesn't
13:19 < Psilovybin> openssl-1.0.2p installed
13:19 <@Mirage> Sometime around EOL for CentOS 6 I might actually move to CentOS 7
13:21 < Psilovybin> well, sorry i was of no help.  I'm not gonna load CentOS...  :D
13:22 < Psilovybin> https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/centos6-apache.html
13:22 < PigBot> Certbot - Centos6 Apache (at certbot.eff.org) http://tinyurl.com/y723x8sr
13:22 < Psilovybin> maybe?  i dunno
13:22 <@Mirage> Psilovybin: back then generally if you just ordered cable internet and didn't pay for TV service you still got basic TV anyway because they couldn't filter it out
13:23 < Psilovybin> Mirage: aye, when i had access to internet options, i only chose Internet only, they charge you like $20 more becuase of the unfiltered cable shows
13:24 < Psilovybin> Mirage: then i got sick of comcast fucking around and moved to TDS gigbit fiber and holy shit was that fucking awesome... 12ms pings to wow servers was nice
13:25 <@Dolemite> Love my TDS fttp
13:26 < Psilovybin> haha when i first gt gigabit fiber, i was like, wtf, i'm only getting 95mbit download. i was scratching my head forever till i went in my router setup and realized the router only had a 100mbit ethernet card... lol  yes, i was laughing at myself, i'd spent the last hour trying to figure something out, never called tech support, just totally oblivious to the obvious cause of excitement
13:26 < Psilovybin> hey DOle
13:26 <@Dolemite> yo
13:26 < Psilovybin> man, i know you're glad i'm off facebook.. :D
13:27 <@Dolemite> LOL
13:27 < Psilovybin> one less bullshit feed to deal with, amirite? :D
13:27 <@Dolemite> I told you, I like diversity, even if I don't agree with your more batshit rantings :)
13:27 < Psilovybin> hahahahaha
13:27 < Psilovybin> i know, i'm just ribbing ya man.. :)
13:28 < Psilovybin> you've known me far too long to know i'm harmless
13:28 <@Mirage> facebook is fine so long as you only login when someone tells you there's some event on the calendar you need to check on
13:28 < Psilovybin> lol
13:28 <@Mirage> So I generally login to it 2-3 times a year
13:28 < Psilovybin> I was just getting tired of facebook being a big factor in my dopamine hit
13:29 <@Mirage> not an issue for me since i think social media is a detrime to human existence anyway
13:29 < Psilovybin> right now, i'm trying to build my workshop befrore the weather gets cold so i can get my dopamine hit creating shit or fixing shit
13:32 < Psilovybin> over the last year, i've been trying to get my mind better, since my "roof" caved in.. reallized that it wasn't "dependence" causing my problem but a lack of "abundance", so I had to cut some fat here and there and so far, it's getting a little better day by day
13:32 <@Dolemite> ++
13:33 < Psilovybin> the abundance issue i have is not finding things to keep my mind occupied in a more positive nature...
13:34 < Psilovybin> i'm still the same asshole I used to be, however... :D
13:35 <@Dolemite> Well your main problem on Facebook is that you WENT LOOKING FOR TROuBLE
13:36 < Psilovybin> :D I really did at the last...
13:36 < Psilovybin> it was funny, I was posting nudity, sex, fucking vids.. eeryting i could do to get banned, but i tell a muslim to go impregnate a goat and bam, 30 day ban
13:37 < Psilovybin> then i realized... i saw the twitter post by the CEO when they finally banned Alex Jones, and that tweet sounded more like an Employer firing an employee.. then i got to thinking, would if social media is geared now to where you are an "employee"
13:38 < Psilovybin> the data you create on their network, while you think it is yours, becomes the networks.  You are just letting them employ your services, for their gain.
13:39 < Psilovybin> that's when i changed the password to both my fb accounts to absolutely random umbers, letters and symbols and not jotting them down since they wouldn't let me delete
13:40 < Psilovybin> however, in their community rules, which they nab people on all the time, it states you can delete your account at any time, which i wasn't allowed to
13:41 < Psilovybin> even after multiple support messages, and a video showing I can't. and multiple friends being able to hit the page to delete, while I couldn't..  it just spoke volumes to me that facebook is a "Non-Free Speech zone" or a safe space for people that don't like any static... :D
13:43 < Psilovybin> Right now, i'm trying to encourage people to get off facebook and twitter.  albiet, it's not working very well "I can't get off facebook, all my friends are there"  this same rhetoric and while I get that statement, I just think back to a simplier time when a company wasn't ruling people's lives
13:44 <@Mirage> I think Dolemite will agree that if you're looking for something to keep you occupied then you just need to get married and have a couple kids
13:45 < Psilovybin> LOL
13:45 <@Dolemite> He's done that
13:45 < Psilovybin> oh DOle knows me pretty well
13:45 < Psilovybin> i have 4 kids, all over 18
13:45 <@Mirage> At least one of them needs to move back home
13:45 <@Mirage> =)
13:45 < Psilovybin> one is
13:46 < Psilovybin> but he's been fucking up something major
13:46 < Psilovybin> not legally, just typical shit
13:46 < Psilovybin> not appreciative... etc
13:47 < Psilovybin> i'm trying to build my workshop, i could use his help, he stays up all night, sleeps all day, i can't build shit during the day, i'm disabled, my back can only take so much so i have to do it by myself
13:47 < Psilovybin> so i just do little stuff every day, trying not to over do it...
13:48 < Psilovybin> first project when i get everything enclosed and my bench set up is to rebuild a spare transmission i have
13:49 < Psilovybin> right now, i'm waiting til my meds kick in and go back outside and put up some more rafters...
14:05 <@Dolemite> I swear, the thing I will miss the least about doing Data Center Work is this fucking ServiceNow application that I have to use for requesting ports from NetOps.
14:14 < Psilovybin> lol
14:15 < Psilovybin> welcome to corporate america
14:19 < Psilovybin> Dolemite: dunno if you use libpng in any of your projects but they release libspng 0.3.1, supposedly it's faster than libpng
14:35 < dasunt> I do need to learn how to do fork service.  Got a little creak from the old suspension on my motorcycle.
14:36 < dasunt> Everything seems solid, so I suspect it may be that some fluid evaporated from the fork itself over the past few decades.
14:36 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to skedaddle
14:36 <@Dolemite> Later, gators
14:38 <@Mirage> ServiceNow aka "SNOW" sucks.  Dell/EMC uses it and several of our customers use it.
15:00 <@Mirage> I haven't had to use it very often, but buying this Klein Tools electrical circuit tracer I have was an excellent decision.   It works similarly to the GreenLee one that we had at the VU NOC with the exception that this one actually works.
15:41 <@Mirage> Customers are such idiots.  The "golden image" template is "RHEL 7.2"...the "Catalog Item" for ordering systems used to be "7.2" but 7.3 was teh current version, so they decided we should exclude the 'redhat-release' package from patching.   Now they are complaining that the "catalog item" has been updated to denote "7.4" (even though 7.5 is current), and they are bitching because the newly built servers still show as "7.2"
15:42 <@Mirage> To add to the insanity, the "latest approved kernel" was the one for 7.3 release...which they are also bitching about.
15:47  * dasunt ponders this.
15:47 < dasunt> Have you tried setting them on fire?
15:47 < dasunt> The customers, not the servers.
15:57 < dasunt> Although you can always try setting yourself on fire.  Painful, but if you do it right, the agony won't last too long and after that, there's the sweet release of death.
16:01 < dasunt> FFS:  Yesterday, there was a conversation about how I seemed to always be busy with the unstated implication that I must be doing something wrong.
16:02 < dasunt> Today, I learned the same person did a job I normally do, but skipped a bunch of steps to make it go quicker.  Which ended up tying up three people for half an hour (including myself) while we debugged it.
16:04 < dasunt> Seriously wonder if the lesson to be learned is that quick, shitty jobs that lead to more time being spent later appears more productive than doing the job right the first time and taking a little bit longer.
16:13 <@Mirage> dasunt: didn't you know..accuracy and attention to detail are highly overrated.
16:16 <@Mirage> situations like the apparent RHEL version and the kernel version are actually one of the favorite parts of my job because I get to tell them "i told you so" in the form of regurgitating their asinine policies back at them and then citing the old email threads where I told them they were being dumb
16:27 < dasunt> Mirage: I'm beginning to think they are overrated.
16:45 <@_NSAKEY> dasunt: No, what you do is you trap the customers in the same room as the servers, and trigger a fire from the outside. The fire suppression system will take care of the rest.
16:48  * dasunt laughs.
16:48 < dasunt> I see you've given this enough thought.
16:53 <@_NSAKEY> At the last job I had, there was an acquisition that was incompetent from the highest levels all the way down.
16:54 <@_NSAKEY> We decided that the most efficient way to solve the problem would be to gather them all in one of the data centers and thermite their rack while they stood around it.
16:55 <@_NSAKEY> Then just move all of their customers over to our equipment, since their MSP-provided gear needed to die in a fire anyway.
17:03 <@_NSAKEY> Speaking of random MSP gear, if any of you have ever entertained playing with gear from pcengines.ch but were hesitant because of the price, searching for "SimpleWAN" on ebay will reveal some rebadged pcengines boxes that are $60 apiece.
17:04 <@_NSAKEY> I bought two to play with, and already dd'ed the SD cards, replaced with msata SSDs, and added antennas to one of them.
17:05 < dasunt> Huh.
17:07 < dasunt> Stupid question, but do hurricanes normally move very slowly when they make landfall?
17:08 < dasunt> CNN's map has Florence basically sitting just on the cost of the N/S Carolina border for about 36 hours.
17:10 < Psilovybin> dasunt: sometimes..  it may be weakening, but then again, it may be pulling in more moisture and feeding it... who's to say, i haven't checked out in today
17:11 < Psilovybin> dasunt: i've notice quite the breeze where i live coming from the west going east... so i dunno
17:13 < Psilovybin> dasunt: think of it like a huge spinning wheel about to gain traction to the ground... :D
17:25 < dasunt> LOL.
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