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11:44 <@Mirage> Working on my cables in the house.  There were 3 home runs from the side of the house to whwere the distribution amp is up in the attic, so I switched to a different one.   Hooking up up a toner to the drop where the modem was connected to trace the cable yielded both that room and the drop in the next room having a tone, so I replaced that drop.   I didn't see any bad spots in the cable, so the shielding was probably just low-grade shit.
11:45 <@Mirage> I also relocated the distribution amp away from the electrical box it was mounted next to.
11:45 <@Mirage> Just gotta love how some of these guys half-ass things and do stupid shit.
11:51 <@Dolemite> It's shit work for shit pay.   Anybody that gets good at it moves on.
11:52 <@Dolemite> Most of the cable installers these days are subcontractors, so they're getting even more of the shaft.
12:37 <@Mirage> Dolemite:  What was that app you had on the DSL machine in the NOC that monitored v.e externally?
12:38 <@Dagmar> He went with Windows for that
12:38 <@Mirage> yes, i know that...
12:39 <@Mirage> I need something simple that I can configure to check my upstream..I'd prefer something that doesn't just run every minute like a cron job...   of course I guess I could just drop a couple sleep statements in there to make it do a ping every 20 seconds and kick off every minute
12:40 <@Mirage> Gonna start doing what I did with comcast back in Nashville.   Track and log downtimes, then call in and bitch for a credit against the total downtime for the month
12:41 <@Mirage> Do that enough times and they actually decide to make an effort to fix their shit.
12:41 <@Dagmar> */5
12:41 <@Mirage> every 5 minues?
12:42 <@Dagmar> ...or you can just go with a simple for loop and a sleep 20
12:42 <@Mirage> * is every minute.. */5 should be every 5 minutes...unless I've never understood cron scheduling properly
12:42 <@Dagmar> Or you can use systemd's event bullshit replacemnet
12:42  * Evilpig slaps Dagmar 
12:42 <@Evilpig> you take that back
12:43 <@Evilpig> systemd's stupid timer.  fuck systemd
12:43 <@Dagmar> I hear it has support for running jobs only on minutes with an auspicious numerology result and a large sense of entitlement
12:43 <@Mirage> luckily OpenBSD hasn't switched to systemd.   If I do this in cron it'll be on the firewall
12:45 <@Dagmar> You can track and log downtimes for Comcast with Cacti
12:45 <@Dagmar> Hang on a sec...
12:47 <@Mirage> yeah, i need to fix my cacti.  updated a while back and broke it.. never got around to fixing it.
12:47 <@Dagmar> I have a perl script called "egress_latency.pl" that just basically revolves around doing this
12:47 <@Dagmar> open(PROCESS, "traceroute -n -q 1 -m 2 -f 2 8.8.8.8 2>&1 | grep -v \"^traceroute\" 2>/dev/null |");
12:48 <@Dagmar> It's kind of shitcode but it works as a down detector for the fuckin' cablemodem fairly well
12:48 <@Dagmar> Basically tracerouting to that fancily-routed DNS service for two hops only
12:49 <@Dagmar> Just got up so I can't remember the name of the magic routing protocol in question
12:49 <@Dagmar> 1.1.1.1 will also work fine
12:49 <@eryc> anycast
12:49 <@Dagmar> Danke
12:49 <@Dagmar> Since they cut off our access to any meaningful SNMP values
12:59 <@eryc> its a neat trick.. i hadn't thought of that specifically
13:02 <@Dagmar> I figure the people for whom it won't work because they're actually within two hops of an address like that will damn well know how to change it. ;)
13:03 <@Dagmar> ...as well as probably have a commercial monitoring product and access to SNMP
13:11 <@eryc> yea at $oldjob i was going to eventually do something with a database and the full list of hops to track latency over time and warn on topology changes
13:12 <@eryc> because things sometimes change and often that means its broken
13:12 <@eryc> like routing from NY to LA and back to NY again
13:13 <@eryc> which has happened
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14:27 <@Mirage> question....if i do ping -c 5 and one of the pings in the middle fails does it exit 0 if the last one was good or some other exit code?
14:28 <@Evilpig> yes 0
14:28 <@Evilpig> one thing my shitty comcrap connection is good for, is dropping packets
14:28 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ow3gkosmywqodcq/Screenshot%202018-09-05%2014.28.34.png?dl=0
14:28 < PigBot> Dropbox - Screenshot 2018-09-05 14.28.34.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9bdcyys
14:29 <@Mirage> that's mainly what i'm getting with Spectrum.  rarely a hard drop, but frequesnt packet loss
14:30 <@Evilpig> might be better off doing a -c20 or so and then parsing out the summary line
14:31 <@Mirage> yeah
14:31 <@Mirage> I'm playing with options
14:31 <@Evilpig> ping -c 5 wilpig.org | grep -o "[0-9]*\ packets\ received"
14:33 <@eryc> i think oping will exit 1
14:33 <@eryc> you can look at the source
14:34 <@Evilpig> just learned me a new option for ping though.  ping -o  quit after a single successful reply
14:34 <@Evilpig> I normally use an alias of ping -c1 -t1 for quick testing of crap but I like that -o better
14:36 <@eryc> the standard ping hasn't changed in a long time
14:36 <@shapr> nping?
14:36 <@eryc> it's a bit outdated for some things
14:37 <@Mirage> I was looking at maybe playing with FPing
14:38 <@Mirage> Used to use it back at VU checking link latency between the routers and other end points
14:39 <@eryc> yea that's what smokeping uses
14:40 <@eryc> from the mrtg days
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19:38 < ZeroBorg> saw a video a long time ago, about something i thought was awesome. Could not think about what it was called, googled it a few times with no luck
19:38 < ZeroBorg> Was reading an arduino book...what i've been looking for was Circuit Bending
21:38 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE1-Jyt2Src
21:38 < PigBot> Watch Live: Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg testify before Congress (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y763raf7
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