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09:54 <@shapr> ?
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10:42 <@Evilpig> gonna say this notice was premature
10:42 <@Evilpig> Title: Inbound traffic to events.vanderbilt.edu website (Cherwell Incident 414026)
10:42 <@Evilpig> Service Outage Start Time: ~9:50PM 8/27/2018
10:42 <@Evilpig> Current Status: Stable/Restored
10:42 <@Evilpig> Estimated time to resolution: Restored
10:42 <@Evilpig> Primary Service(s) Affected: events.vanderbilt.edu
10:42 <@Evilpig> Extent of impact to community: Visitors to events.vanderbilt.edu website.
10:42 <@Evilpig> Service Restored Time: 10:00AM 8/28/2018
10:42 <@Evilpig> Affected Services: All web traffic to site.
10:42 <@Evilpig> Notes/Description/Other supporting details: Site was collapsing under heavy volume. VUIT Security identified a number of Tor exit nodes responsible for high traffic volume, resulting in DDoS attack on the site. Traffic was blocked and sites are recovered. Confirmed with VU Web Communications.
10:42 <@Evilpig> that site is clearly still down
10:45 <@Corydon76> Or the attack shifted, even though the initial vector was fixed.
10:45 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna stick with that notice was premature with their current status being stable/restored
10:46 <@Corydon76> How is it in this day and age that Vanderbilt sites are still served from a single IP?
10:47 <@Evilpig> that's on the campus side.  I have no insight to any of their shenanigans
10:47 <@Corydon76> You'd think that important sites like that would be served from multiple IPs on different subnets.
10:48 <@Evilpig> they've been moving a good bit to aws but not everything
10:48 <@Corydon76> Cloudflare might even be a good option
10:59 <@brimstone> Acidus is still alive
10:59 <@brimstone> we work in the same building
10:59 <@brimstone> also, he's balding
11:00 <@brimstone> oh, he works at Rigor now
11:00 <@Corydon76> https://hillreporter.com/alex-jones-reveals-trans-porn-on-his-phone-on-camera-while-remaining-outspoken-against-transgender-rights-6403
11:00 < PigBot> Alex Jones Reveals Trans Porn On His Phone On Camera, While Remaining Outspoken Against Transgender Rights (at hillreporter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya8vat4f
11:07 < dasunt> Really, is anyone that surprised?
11:08 < aestetix> I still don't understand why "tranny" became a bad word
11:08 < aestetix> brimstone: how's he doing?
11:08 < aestetix> I haven't heard his name in years
11:09 < dasunt> 
11:11 <@brimstone> aestetix: good i suppose? i passed him in the stairwell
11:11 <@brimstone> he was chatting with someone else about baseball
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12:06 < aestetix> man it seems like every major institution is having a civil war right now
12:11 < dasunt> Our president is now picking a fight with *spins wheel* Google search results.
12:12 < aestetix> well I do think Google needs to be more transparent about a bunch of things
12:12 < aestetix> not sure that picking a fight with them on twitter is the right way to do that though
12:12 < dasunt> The results are "RIGGED" because when a user searches for "Trump News", unfavorable stories show up.
12:14 < dasunt> LOL, first result for "Trump news" on Google right now - an article critical of Donald Trump's claim about Google search.
12:14 < aestetix> you know
12:14 < aestetix> I'd like to see every news headline about trump for the last 40 years
12:14 < aestetix> and see how many of them are positive
12:15 < aestetix> I have a feeling this negative news thing is not just because he's POTUS
12:15 < dasunt> Interesting theory.
12:15 < aestetix> He got famous because of all the negative news stories that ran against him in New York
12:15 < aestetix> Everyone hated him, but they couldn't stop talking about him
12:15 < dasunt> I could see a lot of the news pre, say, 2000 or so, being more neutral (e.g. Trump attends groundbreaking ceremony of new building).
12:16 < aestetix> You mean in the era when he would buy low income buildings, kick out all the inhabitants, and then renovate them so only rich people could live there?
12:16 < aestetix> I mean, it was so bad in 1988 that fucking SESAME STREET did a parody making fun of him
12:16 < dasunt> Was that considered a bad thing then?
12:17 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FeyDm4vrFo
12:17 < PigBot> Classic Sesame Street - Ronald Grump Builds The Grump Tower (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/glaeegg
12:17 < dasunt> Serious question, btw.  Because that sounds like what I'd imagine NYC development would be like, regardless of the developer.
12:18 < aestetix> watch that video
12:19 < dasunt> Can't now, but it is on my todo list.
12:49 < dasunt> So I passed my written motorcycle test today.
13:03 < zeroborg> grats
13:25 < zeroborg> so if your working with micro controllers...dont use the gpio pin that the usb uses...to try to control a sensor
13:25 < zeroborg> your gonna have a bad time...i've been super frustrated the last few days fooling with it lol
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13:37 <@shapr> confirmed
13:37 <@shapr> stealing pins from the microcontroller gonna be sad
13:45 < zeroborg> using micropython on a esp8622, and spent a few hours trying to figure out why when i set a pin to input it wouldnt respond..well it's already using that pin for my communicating to it lol
13:48 <@Evilpig> I think you should just try harder.  yell at that lazy pin for only wanting to do one job.  you're doing multiple so it should step the fuck up too
13:59 < dasunt> Speaking of stealing, think I may have figured out why my new 6V flasher doesn't work.
13:59 < dasunt> I stole power off another wire, and I suspect my problem is there's enough of a voltage drop to not trigger it.
14:02 < dasunt> I was checking the wiring diagram and there's a separate wire thats run just for the flasher.  (Dang 6V systems)
14:34 <@Corydon76> zeroborg: When I'm doing things like that (assembly language is another one, I find it helpful to have a whiteboard or other physical sign where I carefully label what I'm using each location for.  Then I don't screw myself up by using the same thing twice
14:39 < zeroborg> Corydon76 Thats a good idea, just bought 2 little whiteboard, usually im in my garage , but i was 'just prototyping' inside...
14:40 < zeroborg> What i mean is, 'Im only gonna try this 1 little thing'....30 changes later SHIT what was i doing again lol
14:41 < zeroborg> and i don't know what is different lol
14:41 <@Corydon76> Also a great reason for source control
14:41 < zeroborg> yea...
14:41 < zeroborg> lol
14:41 <@Corydon76> "Okay, that works" => COMMIT
14:41 <@Corydon76> Then, if you need to roll back or discover what you changed, you have a complete record
14:42 <@Corydon76> Before I knew that source control existed, I used to print out things when they worked, and then I'd have that copy to use to look at what I changed.
14:42 <@Evilpig> source control and tracking changes?  that's crazy talk!  live on the edge test in production
14:43 < zeroborg> i haven't gone down the road of learning git yet
14:43 <@Corydon76> I still use Subversion
14:43 < zeroborg> is it useful even for little microcontroller programs?
14:44 <@Evilpig> svn -> git is pretty simple
14:44 < zeroborg> i mean i haven't actually done anything yet, im just trying to get this damn led to light up with a motion control PIR
14:44 <@Evilpig> svn commit <file> -m "note goes here"  == git commit <file> -m "note goes here"
14:44 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: not simple enough
14:44 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: Now try to revert a change
14:45 <@Evilpig> easiest in the web interface
14:45 <@Evilpig> I have notes for command line somehwere
14:45 <@Corydon76> Yeah, exactly.  My web interfaces around here are readonly, because customer service has access to them
14:46 <@Corydon76> The good thing I did with Subversion, though, was to add the apache integration for authentication
14:46 <@Corydon76> So I can control access from a central point.
14:47 <@Evilpig> we use gitlab in house and have controls on it where people can see but can't do anyhting.  you set up your roles and the correct people can revert, cherry pick, etc
14:47 <@Corydon76> Don't forget to stash your uncommitted changes, or you'll lose them on an update
14:48 <@Corydon76> I'm not wild about that, either
14:48 < ezelkow1> and then you get to learn the rebase :)
14:49 <@Evilpig> I've used stash when I know someone's crap is going to clash with mine.  but generally when Dolemite and I are working on shit at teh same time I just do a pull and go on with life
14:49 < ezelkow1> ahh, how many times i managed to fuckup a rebase that first week learning git
14:49  * Corydon76 shudders about rebase
14:50 < ezelkow1> i never really used it till i started working here, was a clearcase man for 11 years
14:50 <@Corydon76> For me to adopt git, I would need to do another crash course with someone who knows what they're doing, and then adopt it on a daily basis going forward.  I've had one of those classes, didn't use it, forgot what I learned.
14:51 <@Corydon76> I probably just need to buy a book on the subject.
14:52 < ezelkow1> even around here where thats all we use, i think theres still only a couple people who know more beyond the usual add/rm/commit/push/pull/merge/rebase
14:53 <@Evilpig> I did some crazy shit here with some automation and work directories that made my head hurt
14:54 <@Evilpig> it was like git --git-dir=something_or_other/.git  --work-tree-something_or_other commit
14:55 <@Evilpig> part of a script that checked a repo out, did some stuff, added some other stuff, then pushed the whole thing back up before cleaning up after itself
14:56 < ezelkow1> so guy i share an office with wrote up this
14:56 < ezelkow1> https://github.com/comcast/tsb
14:56 < PigBot> GitHub - Comcast/tsb: A Transitive Source Builder for managing builds across multiple repositories (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/yawn3fze
14:57 < ezelkow1> So its basically a giant git wrapper, but lets you do some really fancy stuff with repo management and builds
14:58 < ezelkow1> you end up with a yaml for a list of repos and a yaml for a list of patches, the tool can maintain the patches list for you, grab the latest (or user specified) heads of the repos, put together a build, create a docker img, build it and spit out the output
14:58 < ezelkow1> we just keep the yamls in their own git repo, which jenkins watches for changes, so when we add a new patch, update a repo, whatever, jenkins pushes it through tsb and spits out a build for us for the yum repo
15:03 < zeroborg> Yea i don't think i'm there yet lol
15:04 < zeroborg> i understand its importance / role. Even for just a 1 person show like me. I'll get into version control when i start developing desktop stuff.
15:04 < zeroborg> I've been having a lot of fun  with micropython on my esp8622...using it as a platform to learn a little python while i go through a few python books.
15:05 < zeroborg> I also intend to use a microcontroller for the few projects i plan on bringing to Phreaknic, so it's 2 birds 1 stone with micropython. Learn a little python, i realize it's limited to the microcontroller world. Learn microntrollers. Learn basic electrics / electronics
15:06 < zeroborg> This is the millionth time i've started but im having fun and success. Plus i have real world uses this time around, the other times it was just ' i want to learn to program' but never had any projects. Plus phreaknic is a sort of deadline, so that's nice in a way.
15:07 < zeroborg>  **end spiel** sorry lol
15:13 <@brimstone> what projects?
15:13 < dasunt> Ditto, what projects?
15:14 <@Evilpig> interactive love doll
15:14 <@brimstone> aestetix had one of those last year!
15:14 < dasunt> Lies.  There's no such thing as love, from a doll or person.
15:18 <@Evilpig> btw I had my yearly eval today.  for those that I told I put "find a new job" as one of my goals.  I submit this as proof.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/9fYSLtsc6wsk6wue6
15:18 < PigBot> Shared album - Wilbur Longwisch - Google Photos (at photos.app.goo.gl) http://tinyurl.com/ybq6flp3
15:22 < zeroborg> a badge of sorts
15:22 < zeroborg> itll be basic, just show name, quotes maybe some ascii art
15:22 < zeroborg> second one is...well i don't want to give it away, but it's a tad bigger and itll just have some led's and maybe a laser pointer
15:22 < zeroborg> like star trek?
15:27 <@brimstone> neat
15:27 < zeroborg> ever heard of the borg? see my name lol
15:27 <@brimstone> no, who's that
15:28 < zeroborg> they are an alien race that...are a collective. They are humanoid and technology together.
15:28 < zeroborg> They all share 1 collective mind, and assimilate other races into the collective
15:29 < zeroborg> So my name badge will be a borg ensignia / logo with a mini oled screen showing my name and some borg quotes.
15:29 < zeroborg> Its super nerdy / lame, but im using it as a way to learn microcontrollers micropython.
15:30 <@brimstone> that's neat
15:30 < zeroborg> The other thing is a borg cube. A 3d printed cube, electronics inside that fade green led's maybe a laser pointer...just like their ship from star trek.
15:30 <@brimstone> cosplay's fun, but i don't get into it
15:30 < zeroborg> maybe have it speak...idk that one is a stretch...the badge i will for sure get done.
15:30 < zeroborg> oh shit...is that cosplay
15:31 <@brimstone> yeah, but so is wearing your favorite sportball player's jersey
15:31 < zeroborg> oh no...
15:31 <@brimstone> so don't read too much into it ;)
15:33 < dasunt> I fantasize far too frequently about doing horrible things  to UX designers.
15:35 < zeroborg> like who dasunt?
15:39 < dasunt> Right now, our helpdesk ticketing system changed.
15:39 < zeroborg> oh lovely
15:40 < dasunt> Does IT support roles lead to ADD?
15:41 < zeroborg> Maybe you picked IT support because of the ADD
15:41 < dasunt> I don't think so.
15:43 < zeroborg> I'd say stress leads to something that would resemble add
15:45 < dasunt> I could see that.  My memory is shot these days.
16:02 <@Corydon76> dasunt: up your vitamin D intake
16:03 <@Corydon76> I've been messing around recently with increased supplementation.
16:06 < dasunt> I don't think that's the problem, but it can't hurt.
16:06  * dasunt dies from a vitamin D overdose in two weeks.  ;)
16:07 < zeroborg> could take a multivitamin /shrugs
16:07 < zeroborg> how do you do those emoteS
16:13  * dasunt shrugs.
16:13 < dasunt> ;)
16:13 < dasunt> It's "/me blah blah blah"
16:14 < dasunt> Question #5 on the non-anonymous employee questionaire I'm doing:  "What process could be fixed or improved?"
16:14 < dasunt> My reaction:  I could get fired with a very honest answer.
16:20 <@opticron> just use that as your answer
16:20 < dasunt> Holy shit, I'm tempted.
16:21 <@shapr> ha
16:33 < zeroborg> i agree
16:52 < dasunt> LOL, asked for help because I have two things to do at the same time, and I'm told that I can do thing #2 because it will take no time at all.
16:52 < dasunt> Then my boss leaves.
16:52 < dasunt> Y'know, before doing it.
16:57 <@shapr> ok, now I really need to submit my phreaknic talk
17:09 <@shapr> ok, now it's really submitted
17:45 <@Evilpig> denied.  try again next year
18:11 <@shapr> Evilpig: have you submitted a talk?
18:30 <@Evilpig> I don't do public speaking if I can avoid it
18:31 <@Evilpig> I've got other things going ont hat weekend too.  but they aren't showing up on my calendar right now and I'm hella confused
19:00 <@shapr> means you're free to show up!
19:30 < zeroborg> you doing a talk on fpga's shapr?
19:31 <@shapr> submitted a talk proposal
19:32 <@shapr> hopefully will be accepted
19:32 <@shapr> zeroborg: what are you doing a talk about?
19:33 < zeroborg> ...nothing
19:33 < zeroborg> i wouldn't mind to. I just don't have anything that i could
19:35 <@shapr> zeroborg: introduction to esp8266?
19:35 < zeroborg> or intro to micropython with a esp8266.
19:35 < zeroborg> an*
19:36 < zeroborg> im pretty new tho this, and it isnt going super duper smooth like it probably would be if i was learning with an Arduino. So before Phreaknic...i'd have to iron out quite a few issues.
19:37 < zeroborg> Nothing wrong with MicroPython, i'm just still having to hack away at the noobie stuff so its hard to feel ok submitting a talk for it.
19:37 < zeroborg> I might be able to BY october, but then it's to late to submit a talk :)
19:37 < zeroborg> shapr you know when the deadline to submit is?
19:38 <@shapr> not sure
19:38 <@shapr> zeroborg: lots of people don't know anything about microcontrollers
19:38 <@shapr> if you show off something useful and neat, I'm sure people will attend
19:38 <@shapr> *I* will attend if you give a talk
19:39 <@shapr> I think micropython + esp8266 would get several attendees
19:45 < zeroborg> well, they already paid to be there....they have little choice mwhahah
19:46 < zeroborg> I might..hmmm..if by then i can do something simple to demonstrate the possibilities then id do it. i've already learned a bunch this last week about it
19:47 < zeroborg> I'd even give a few of them away.... they
19:47 < zeroborg> are only $4.
19:48 < zeroborg> oh no, i'd have to fire up powerpoint, or the libre equivalent lol
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22:01 <@Mirage> Evilpig: holy shit...the felik might actually ship soon.
22:06 <@Evilpig> I know!  I'm excited for it
22:06 <@Evilpig> my neighbor is not going to be pleased when it does finally get here
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