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06:11 < Evilpig_> this macbook pro touchbar is the fucking worst
06:12 < Evilpig_> and I'm not sure who thought cutting the key travel in half or whatever was a good idea it makes typing on this feel weird
06:13 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:14 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: You'll like this next story
06:15 <@Dolemite> Hey, $StorageAdmin, can you please set up an NFS share for me called 'jenkins' with a 20Gb quota and make it mountable by 10.1.1.0/24?
06:15 <@Dolemite> $StorageAdmin:   Ok, done.
06:15 <@Dolemite> Me:  Hey, $StorageAdmin, I can't mount that share from $ClusterNode25.   Did you set the allowed range on it?
06:16 <@Dolemite> $StorageAdmin:   Yep, see, right here I have 10.1.1.0 through 10.1.1.24, just like you asked.
06:16 <@Dolemite> Me:  *facepalm*
06:16 < Evilpig_> nice....
06:17 <@Dolemite> He then said he wasn't sure if the EMC Isilon supported that kind of notation.
06:18 < Evilpig_> he's new, right?
06:18 <@Dolemite> No :(
06:18 < Evilpig_> like new to computers in general
06:20 <@Dolemite> Let me put it to you this way...   management is trying to find someone to take over the data center stuff from me because they want to add me onto a bunch of other projects...  because I actually know how shit works
06:20 <@Dolemite> Even things I've never touched, I have a better clue as to how they work
06:21 <@Dolemite> For instance, if you look at this gem:  https://cyber.dhs.gov/bod/18-01/
06:21 < PigBot> cyber.dhs.gov - Binding Operational Directive 18-01 (at cyber.dhs.gov) http://tinyurl.com/ya34427d
06:22 <@Dolemite> For some reason I was the only one that could just write a Python API for checking compliance on websites...   everybody else just had the deer-in-headlights stare
06:23 <@Dolemite> And to this day I still don't think our Exchange admin understands the difference between SPF, DKIM, and DMARC.   He definitely doesn't understand the impact that flipping p=NONE to p=REJECT will have overnight.
06:25 <@Dolemite> Tomorrow I fly to Portland, OR, for Elastic training, because we moved to it from Splunk, but nobody outside of Cyber understands how to use it, and Cyber is too busy (and it's not in their scope) to teach others.
06:27  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:29 < Evilpig_> this is going to be a long day.  outlook didn't restore right or something onto this loaner laptop and i'm getting this error but the fix from microsoft isn't fixing it.  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3025946/unknown-error-or-clock-error-when-you-activate-outlook-2016-for-mac
06:29 < PigBot>  (at support.microsoft.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybzskg7j
07:18 <@Dolemite> Ha!   And now my team lead just told me that they want me to be the SME for AWS.
07:25 < aestetix> what is SME
07:28 <@Dolemite> subject matter expert
07:36 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, this BlueOcean UI for jenkins is pretty straightforward.   Much simpler than the old one.
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10:04 < dasunt> Up, did the Trump Foundation CFO or the Trump Organization CFO just get immunity?
10:05 <@Dolemite> CFO
10:05 <@Dolemite> And so did the Big Pecker
10:06 < dasunt> Oh, it's just the Cohen probe.
10:06 < dasunt> I thought this could be related to the separate issue of the Trump Foundation.
10:07 < aestetix> see this is why I don't need to be on social media
10:08 < aestetix> every time something happens, I get updates from you :p
10:08 < dasunt> LOL.
10:09 < dasunt> I can't keep track of everything.  Also, I saw it on a news website.
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12:33 < Healix> Anyone have any opinions on certification?
12:33 < Healix> good, bad, which ones are worthwhile, which ones are not?
12:33 -!- Healix is now known as zeroborg
12:34 < zeroborg> stupid nick server
14:22 <@Corydon76> zeroborg: If you're trying to get hired, knowing something about the organization will tell you which ones you want.  Otherwise, they aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
14:23 <@Corydon76> The basic problem of any certification is that they are a snapshot in time of very limited knowledge, and they are often obsolete by the time they're rolled out to a classroom.
14:38 < dasunt> Gawd, I hate the Office 365 admin interface.
14:45 < Evilpig_> dasunt: I hate office365 period
15:27 < dasunt> That is also a correct answer.
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15:40 < dasunt> Looking at motorcycle protective gear, there seems to be no standards for jackets, correct?
15:45 < dasunt> Oh, there's a European standard.
15:45 < dasunt> None in Eagle-land though.
16:44 <@Dagmar> There's "ricer idiot" and there's "leather"
16:45 <@Dagmar> The bits with the plastic spine, elbow, and wrist shields are the "ricer idiot" kind
16:48 < dasunt> Isn't ricer idiot a t-shirt and shorts?
16:51 <@Dagmar> Oh no
16:51 <@Dagmar> That's what they wear when they're _not_ wearing protective gear
16:52 <@Dagmar> Basically, you want actual leather (pleather is not going to work) with some minor padding, i.e., a Schott-style jacket
16:52 <@Dagmar> Actual leather will slide across the asphalt without instantly shredding away (which is precisely what pleather will do)
16:52 <@Dagmar> You get to keep most of your skin
16:53 <@Dagmar> The padding is just to soften the impact
16:53 <@Dagmar> Nothing's going to be effective (well, if you want to wrap your ass in whole rolls of Charmin, maybe) from sliding _into_ something
16:54 < dasunt> Does the synthetic just shred?
16:54 < dasunt> Or does it depend on the synthetic?
16:55 <@Dagmar> I have yet to see anyone making synthetics that are road-rash resistant and didn't also cost a fortune
16:55 < dasunt> I'll admit, I'm a little bit hesitant of leather because it feels to me what I don't normally wear.
16:55 <@Dagmar> I'm just saying point blank, pleather jackets might be cheap, but they're next to no protection
16:56 <@Dagmar> It feesl to you what?
16:57 < dasunt> How should I put it?  Er, I won't judge others for wearing it, but to me it almost seems like I'd be a poser.
16:58 < dasunt> It may not help that the few results I saw on Amazon for tall jackets looked ...  aesthetically bad.
16:59 < dasunt> OTOH, maybe I should look harder for jackets.
17:00 < dasunt> LOL, love Amazon - go to their motorcycle gear section, search for "tall leather", and it decides I want to search all of Amazon instead.
17:02  * dasunt fears he's driven Dagmar to drink early.
17:02 <@Dagmar> The asphalt doesn't give a shit what kind of bike you were just on was
17:03 <@Dagmar> Asphalt will just fuck you up
17:03 <@Dagmar> If you';re looking for some _long_ jacket, FORGET THAT RIGHT NOW
17:04 <@Dagmar> ...unless of course you're fond of having the bottom part of the coat get sucked into the chain or back wheel at speed and ripping your torso off
17:04 <@Dagmar> Dusters are a flat no-no
17:04 <@Dagmar> No one's going to blink twice about someone wearing a plain, black Schott-style jacket.
17:05 <@Dagmar> If you're wearing a fancy three-color Italian idiot jacket... THAT's one they'll judge you for
17:05 < dasunt> Something like this doesn't look bad:  https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Utility-Pocket-Motorcycle-XXX-Large/dp/B00IVP0ZY2/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1535148308&sr=1-2&keywords=leather%2Bking%2Bmen%27s%2Butility%2Bpocket%2Bmotorcycle%2Bjacket&th=1
17:05 < PigBot> Amazon.com: Leather King Men's Utility Pocket Motorcycle Jacket (Black, X-Large Tall): Automotive (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybdpbkvs
17:06 <@Dagmar> Note that there is no sense paying this for it, but there are lots of knockoffs https://www.legendaryusa.com/Schott-NYC-Mens-118-Perfecto-Leather-Motorcycle-Jacket.html
17:06 < PigBot> Schott Perfecto 118 | Perfecto Jacket | Legendary USA (at www.legendaryusa.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7247esd
17:06 <@Dagmar> You can gte a knock-off "James Dean" jacket for like $150-220
17:07 <@Dagmar> Make sure you add a couple of inches to the chest measurement tho
17:07 < dasunt> That's $140 for XLT.
17:07 <@Dagmar> Is that "American XLT" or "Asian XLT"
17:07 <@Dagmar> like HJC helmets are measured in Asian sizes, which is why I wear a 3XL in those
17:07 < dasunt> The reviews seem to be favorable to American XLT.
17:08 <@Dagmar> 1.3mm thick leather seems a bit thin tho
17:09 < dasunt> I'm really not into the James Dean look.  Flashbacks to 4th grade, when buzz cuts, leather jackets, and Bon Jovi were all the rage.
17:09 <@Dagmar> Hit up a Wilson's locally
17:10 <@Dagmar> <Asphalt> My but you're stylish!  I almost hate to peel all the skin off your arm and back.... but I'm still going to do it.
17:10 <@Dagmar> Don't worry about the look.  EVERYTHING looks better than full-body bandages
17:10 < dasunt> Yes, I know, I'm vain.
17:10 <@Dagmar> Actual bikers will respect "functional"
17:11 < dasunt> Well, actually, not too vain, but it's something about the zipper that goes from center to upper right that bothers the hell out of me.
17:13 < dasunt> OTOH, the cheapo I posted from Amazon has the same style.  So IDK.
17:15  * dasunt assums Wilson's is not a chain Minnesota has.
17:18 < dasunt> So, if I haven't driven you to drink yet, what do you use for pants and shoes?
17:42 <@Dagmar> Jeans and sneakers, sometimes combat boots
17:42 <@Dagmar> Flip-flops are predictably out of the question
17:42 <@Dagmar> If boots, you want smooth soles because you might be planting them at speed
17:43 <@Dagmar> The zipper going to the "upper right" is because when you zip it all the way up you have a five-inch collar of leather around your neck
17:43 <@Dagmar> Not to protect against asphalt, but to protect your neck against things like sleet and sub-freezing wind chill
17:43 <@Dagmar> If you're wearing a full-face helmet it'll practically go up into that
17:44 <@Dagmar> BECAUSE RAIN DRIBBLING DOWN YOUR FRONT SUCKS ASS
17:44 <@Dagmar> So yes, another reason for "real" leather is that you can soak it the hell down with silicone leather protectant, which does a good job of making leather into something rather water-resistant
17:45 <@Dagmar> ...and the only thing worse than rain dribbling down your front is rain dribbling down the back of your shirt
17:46 <@Dagmar> The silicone will also keep it reasonably supple
17:46 <@Dagmar> Unprotected leather becomes dry and brittle over time
17:47 <@Dagmar> The people at Wilson's however, will swear it destroys leather and ask you buy their own leather protectant (which is also silicone lol)
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18:33 < dasunt> Thanks.  Shouldn't I have high top shoes or boots though?
18:35 <@Mirage> ok, maybe Spectrum finally got their shit straight.   probably been giving pig a run for his money on disconnect/reconnect messages
23:20 < K`Tetch_> Mirage - I wish. they did double my up/down speed the other day, but i still have zero ipv6 connectivity, and my modems unstable as fuck
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