--- Log opened Wed Aug 22 00:00:30 2018 00:09 -!- hobbes615 [~hobbes615@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:29 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:39 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 06:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:34 < Shadow404> anyone have suggestions for a solid windows 10 vpn server? 06:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 06:38 <@Dolemite> Windows 10 as the VPN server and not the client? 06:39 <@Dolemite> Just got buy a VPN router, put the Windows 10 box behind it, and be done with it. 06:39 <@Dolemite> s/got/go 06:40 <@Dolemite> I got my TP-Link R600VPN for less than $100. 06:40 <@Shadow404> should of prefaced. this is only to serve as a temp workaround for 2 weeks 06:40 <@Shadow404> great firewall of china 06:41 <@Shadow404> to get into home server 06:41 <@Dolemite> Doesn't change the answer 06:43 <@Dolemite> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704130&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Routers+%2F+Remote-_-N82E16833704130&gclid=Cj0KCQjwk_TbBRDsARIsAALJSOahnsFLFju61zoeJ7SUkLXfVL2x6scaLSxLU_fSQha5sP1ENuDJgb8aAgOfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds 06:43 < PigBot> TP-Link SafeStream TL-R600VPN 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit Broadband VPN Router - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com) http://tinyurl.com/y86mm5eu 07:02 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:27 <@Corydon76> Evilpig_: Yeah, I know about RHEL 5. We recently had to upgrade our ERP/IMP system to RHEL 6, because RedHat refused to do any root cause analysis on a 5 box. And we couldn't do 7, because the ERP/IMP vendor doesn't support its software on 7. 07:56 < ZeroBorg> oddball thanks i'll bring it, i hope i finish them by then ( the phreaknic project) 07:56 < ZeroBorg> eryc thanks for the link 08:29 <@shapr> ZeroBorg: that's me in the video, now you'll recognize me at PhreakNIC! 08:46 < Evilpig_> Corydon76: we're dealing with some of that same shit here 08:48 < ZeroBorg> shapr the neopixel video? Awesome 08:59 <@shapr> yup, I knitted the scarf and wrote the code 09:42 < oddball> ZeroBorg: hell, if you find it interesting enough, I think you can still submit talk ideas. 09:51 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 09:54 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:54 < aestetix> god, fuck vegans 09:55 < aestetix> it's bad enough they have completely disgusting meat replacement crap 09:55 < aestetix> but when they have restaurants with menus that change every day to random things because they just assume you'll eat whatever the tofu surprise is... 09:55 < oddball> Was there another jackass that decided to force their dog or cat to be vegan? 09:55 < aestetix> no, I'm trying to meet up with someone who is vegan 09:55 < aestetix> and all the options suck 09:56 < oddball> well, you know... it's vegan... 09:57 < aestetix> the foods like like someone ate a tomato and then puked it all over some noodles 09:57 < aestetix> look like* 09:57 < oddball> Of course, if you want tasty vegan/vegitarian, that's what Indian food is for. 10:00 < aestetix> naturally the meetup is in a hipster area 10:00 < aestetix> and all the fucking places seem to be vegan 10:00 < aestetix> there's a reason I never go there 10:00 <@Corydon76> Indian++ 10:01 < aestetix> yeah I am a huge fan of indian 10:01 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:01 <@shapr> mmm, venison 10:01 <@shapr> wait, which indian? 10:01 * shapr judges himself 10:02 < oddball> tech support Indian 10:05 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:06 <@Corydon76> Real India. Not fake "Oops, wrong part of the world Columbus" India. 10:07 < oddball> I should have said "call center Indian?" 10:09 <@Corydon76> lol 10:09 <@Corydon76> I bet somewhere there's a call center on a Native American reservation. 10:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 10:16 <@oddball> I mean, could get really nasty on the stereotypes of the NA Indians... 10:27 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxs_mTRjLAU 10:27 < PigBot> I HATE VEGANS (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hvhhnce 11:55 < ZeroBorg> why do all phones have to be huge 12:03 <@Corydon76> Because they're not phones. They're computers with phone capabilities. 12:04 <@Corydon76> And they're killing the traditional computer industry. 12:10 < ZeroBorg> it's awful 12:10 < ZeroBorg> Im not a big fan of apple, but my se works fine and is a great size 12:10 < ZeroBorg> i'm looking into moving over to android...and now theyre just as user unfriendly as apple 12:11 < ZeroBorg> it's becoming difficult to find 1 that has replaceable battery... 12:11 < ZeroBorg> which is what is wrong with my se 12:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: PigBot, xray 12:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: PigBot 12:32 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:47 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io] 12:50 < dasunt> I'm too lazy to do this, but with Craigslist's vehicle ads, I feel like it should be pretty easy to scrape the ads and to calculate if something is over or underpriced. 13:13 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:16 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @ChanServ 13:17 <@eryc> asking price is fairly irrelevant 13:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 13:55 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io] 14:00 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:10 <@Corydon76> dasunt: you mean if it's miscategorized as a individual ad, when it's actually a dealer ad? 14:11 <@Corydon76> Or, contrarily, if the ad is actually just the front end of a money laundering network? 14:13 <@Corydon76> Peaches' new boyfriend works for a Subway that sounds all the world like a money laundering operation. Owners of the franchise have that as their sole business, but don't work there and don't show up except to berate the employees for meaningless crap 14:13 <@shapr> that's how it was when I worked at subway 14:13 <@Corydon76> shapr: Really? 14:13 <@shapr> yup 14:14 <@shapr> if you have a halfway decent manager you can make lots of money 14:14 <@Corydon76> I'd understand if they owned a set of stores, but just one? 14:14 <@shapr> I was working at a subway in five points, birmingham 14:14 <@Corydon76> The other Subways I've seen, it's clear the owners were the family running it. 14:20 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 14:24 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:30 <@eryc> you sound like an expert on franchise businesses, please tell us more 14:45 <@Corydon76> eryc: you sound like an expert on sucking cock, please tell me more 16:14 < dasunt> Corydon76: If it's a good price or not. For example, ads have model, brand, year, miles, etc. 16:17 < dasunt> Or, if the person is clearly insane. 16:18 * dasunt just finds an ad that's way overpriced. 16:21 < dasunt> Huh, I kind of want to do an ebay check on parts for this motorcycle that's being sold for $300 because it doesn't stay running. 16:36 < dasunt> LOL. '82 Kawasaki 550cc for $700. Part of the ad mentions a shitty ex boyfriend. 17:49 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @ChanServ 18:00 < ZeroBorg> anyone have any success with changing a server to a nix? 18:00 < ZeroBorg> I have a htpc with about 7tb of data. I'd like to move it to linux 18:01 < ZeroBorg> i assume with the file system im gonna have to offload that 7tb onto an external drive of some sort, reformat and then put it all back on the hdd's? 18:02 < ZeroBorg> as i typed that out..i think it'll just stay that Windows lo 18:02 < ZeroBorg> lol* 18:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 18:10 < xray> ZeroBorg: I have done a lot of experimenting with HTPC both Linux and Windows based including MythTV, Kodi. NextPVR, Windows Media Center and a few others I can 18:10 < xray> can't think of at the moment 18:11 < xray> I've run the backends and clients on everything from a Raspberry PI to multi-core servers. 18:13 < xray> Bottom line: A Linux open source based solution has a lot of limitations in types of media that can be played. I have found that Windows provided the most compatibility for all media types including CD, DVD, and Blu-ray. 18:15 < xray> No matter how hard I tried to get an embedded device like a Raspberry Pi to work it ended up costing more and having less capability and power than a Windows Intel i3 laptop for $350. 18:16 < xray> I really really really wanted to do it with Linux and open source but for the moment Windows and a cheap laptop came out the winner. 18:17 < ZeroBorg> im running plex 18:17 < xray> The other problem I ran into was that every solution was trying to be a set top box interface controlled via an IR remote. 18:17 < xray> I used plex as well. 18:17 < ZeroBorg> using usernet / indexer to feed .nzb's to sbnzb and using sonarr / lidarr to feed it tv shows and movies respectively 18:18 < xray> What I found out through lots of trial and many errors and lots of complaints by the users (my family) was that if I gave them a Windows desktop they could easily manage to play anything they wanted form any source with no training. They already know how to use a laptop. 18:19 < ZeroBorg> A better solution would probably set up a virtualization on the machine and have windows run that stuff for ease, then have a linux vm running too for stuff like owncloud 18:19 < ZeroBorg> the htpc is in my attic, no direct manipulation. Im the only one who adds tv / movies to it 18:20 < ZeroBorg> plex is streamed to a roku 18:20 < xray> I stay away from pirated content so I'm not running a lot of the Kodi plugins. 18:20 < ZeroBorg> :) 18:21 < xray> If your by yourself you can have "experimental" systems. I found out wife and kids don't do well with that. 18:21 < ZeroBorg> I think for now, i have other things im trying to learn and get going that i'm going to put a pin in this since it would require me to learn a whole bunch. The plan was to basically install debian or ubuntu with a desktop and reinstall all those services. just to be running *nix 18:21 < ZeroBorg> it wouldnt require a whole lot of new learning*** 18:21 < xray> I still experiment but the HTPC is a Windows desktop interface running on really cheap acer laptop. No more complaints. 18:22 < ZeroBorg> yea mines running on an old desktop. Basically it's just a place to have TB's of data 18:22 < xray> For DVR I use a Linux box running MythTV and use the MythTV client on the Windows machine. 18:23 < ZeroBorg> i guess if i really wanted to do it. Set up something like Proxmox on a different pc and then migrate it to a virtualization on it. Less downtime. And it allows me to get the OS up and running and the services going before shutting my plex down and migrating data. 18:23 < ZeroBorg> Hm ill have to look at mythtv 18:23 < xray> sounds like my setup. My HD died and I have to build a new box but with Netflix and Amazon Prime everyone is happy without the DVR. Not to mention prime time TV is meh. 18:24 < ZeroBorg> Ah gotcha. Mine isnt a htpc in that it's hooked up to it. It used to be, that's why i referenced it as a HTPC 18:24 < ZeroBorg> but really it's my server 18:24 < xray> Kodi and Plex both have DVR functionality but I haven't tried it yet. 18:24 < ZeroBorg> I also don't do any DVR'ing...since i'm pirating 18:25 < ZeroBorg> I mean im not a pirate. 18:25 < xray> The Windows box is hooked to the TV and is only a front end and DVD/Blu-ray player. 18:26 < xray> I do OTA with an antenna in the attic and a Silicondust box for a tuner 18:27 < ZeroBorg> does it use a 'tv guide' to automate the shows to download? 18:27 < xray> Accurate TV schedules are a problem for most systems 18:27 < ZeroBorg> I also don't have TV... 18:27 < ZeroBorg> So i dont have a need to set that up i guess 18:27 < xray> I subscribe to schedules direct for TV guides http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ 18:27 < PigBot> Schedules Direct (at www.schedulesdirect.org) http://tinyurl.com/2bm8ud 18:27 < ZeroBorg> ah ok 18:28 < xray> it is $25/year 18:28 < ZeroBorg> hm interesting. I'll keep that set up in mind for maybe one day in the future i pay for cable 18:28 < xray> I don't have cable 18:28 < ZeroBorg> oh nvm 18:28 < xray> I would need a different SiliconDust box for that 18:29 < ZeroBorg> i was thinking you were downloading from your cable box 18:29 < xray> Schedules direct will give you OTA and cable schedules. I just don't have cable 18:30 < ZeroBorg> If one buys a silicondust box, does it come with a dvr? 18:30 < ZeroBorg> im looking at their website atm 18:30 < xray> I haven't looked to see if they have DVR functions now or not. 18:30 < xray> https://www.silicondust.com/ 18:30 < PigBot> HDHomeRun - Watch TV anywhere in your home (at www.silicondust.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8g4omuf 18:30 < ZeroBorg> but your using your own to download it. Or you don't download it? and just stream it? 18:31 < xray> The tuners sit on the network and take all the pain out of setting up a tuner card with all their driver issues. 18:32 <@eryc> it turns coax/ota into udp packets over ethernet 18:32 < xray> yes 18:32 < xray> You can connect to it to watch live TV as well 18:32 <@eryc> i have an older model i found recently.. i hung out with the guy that designs them a long time ago 18:32 < xray> every DVR program out there knows how to talk to them as well. 18:33 < xray> I used to use tuner cards and they are a major pain due to all the driver issues, 18:34 < xray> Also when a new operating system comes out the tuner manufacturer doesn't come out with new drivers. Instead they expect you to buy a new card. Not a problem with SiliconeDust boxes. 18:34 < xray> Did I mention I really like SiliconDust boxes. :) 18:35 < xray> I have not used the SiliconDust DVR solution. I use MythTV to control the SiliconDust box based on the TV schedule. 18:37 <@shapr> NeTV2? 18:37 < xray> Also there are multiple tuners in their boxes so you can record more than one channel at a time. Also they support virtual channels so if I'm tuned to a channel to record one thing I can also record any of the channels sub channels without using the other tuner. 18:38 < xray> Hmmm. they also seem to have a new premium service https://www.silicondust.com/premium-tv/ 18:38 < PigBot> Premium TV - Silicon Dust (at www.silicondust.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycbrypxv 18:38 < xray> My they have been busy. 18:44 < xray> This will make it easier to figure out which device to use. https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/ 18:44 < PigBot> Consumer - Silicon Dust (at www.silicondust.com) http://tinyurl.com/znqfsqf 18:44 < xray> This is the one that will work with OTA and cable https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-prime/ 18:44 < PigBot> HDHomeRun PRIME - Silicon Dust (at www.silicondust.com) http://tinyurl.com/jdj5wxr 18:46 < xray> hmmm. That box may only receive cable and not OTA 18:49 < xray> hmmmm. The SiliconDust DVR program is $35/year and includes schedules 19:09 < ZeroBorg> would a crappy indoor antenna work for silicon dust? 19:11 <@shapr> oh, I need to put up my talk proposal 19:11 <@shapr> Intro to FPGAs! 19:11 < ZeroBorg> You going to give it? 19:11 <@shapr> yeah! 19:11 <@shapr> why not? 19:11 < ZeroBorg> YEAH! 19:11 < ZeroBorg> just read from the wikipedia haha 19:11 <@shapr> ZeroBorg: I've also organized the lightning talks the last two? years 19:11 <@shapr> three years? 19:12 < ZeroBorg> really, that last thing i remember from lightning talk is some dude with long hair that people called jesus giving an intro to javascript 19:12 < ZeroBorg> it was comical 19:12 <@shapr> and he mentioned monads :-) 19:12 <@shapr> yeah, former president of the Atlanta freeside hackerspace, jonathan popham 19:12 < ZeroBorg> oh yea thats his name 19:12 <@shapr> is there a video for the phreaknic lightning talks? 19:13 <@shapr> I'm probably in there 19:15 < ZeroBorg> fuck i was at phreaknic longer ago then i thought 19:17 < ZeroBorg> nostalgia is simultaneously the best and worst feeling ever 19:19 <@shapr> when was the last time? 19:27 < xray> ZeroBorg: What antenna will work depends where you are in relation to the OTA transmitter. 19:29 < xray> go here to find out what kind of antenna will work 19:29 < xray> https://www.antennaweb.org/Address 19:29 < PigBot> Address (at www.antennaweb.org) http://tinyurl.com/y8xg3dfx 19:29 < xray> If you have an antenna that works with your TV now that will do fine. 19:29 < xray> This is what I'm using https://www.channelmaster.com/Digital_HDTV_Outdoor_TV_Antenna_p/cm-4228hd.htm 19:29 < PigBot> CM-4228HD EXTREMEtenna 80 | Channel Master (at www.channelmaster.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7attfqn 19:30 < xray> It is in my attic with no rotor 19:36 -!- Mirage [~mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:44 < ZeroBorg> shapr phreaknic 19. Me searching for you in videos informed me it was 19, not 20 i came to 20:44 < ZeroBorg> xray thanks i'll do more research thanks. 21:22 -!- HackMaster____ [uid45710@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rkfxxkbdcuxqxdct] has joined #se2600 21:29 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: HackMaster___ 22:10 <@_NSAKEY> shapr: The lightning talks have never been filmed. 22:46 < K`Tetch_> fix that! 22:47 -!- hobbes615 [~hobbes615@c-68-52-51-5.hsd1.ky.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:47 -!- hobbes615 [~hobbes615@c-68-52-51-5.hsd1.ky.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:47 -!- hobbes615 [~hobbes615@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Thu Aug 23 00:00:32 2018