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05:20 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CKniE7PGuw
05:20 < PigBot> YOUTUBE ALMOST BANNED ME (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9h7cjhq
06:14 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:22  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:02 <@oddball> aestetix: He started to touch on something that the YouTube gun channels have been having to deal with.  YouTube has changed their standards multiple times recently, and is holding old videos to the new standard.
08:02 <@oddball> "oh, you published a video 6 years ago that goes against our new policy?  That's a strike."
08:04 < aestetix> ok this is just amusing
08:05 < aestetix> Linus got into a fight with some dev, and gave up and said "I fart in your general direction"
08:05 < aestetix> and the dev got butthurt and accused him of harassment
08:05 < aestetix> fucking snowflakes
08:11 <@oddball> Honestly?  I'm more surprised that Linus responded with that instead of tear the guy a new one than I am with the dev being offended.
08:12 < aestetix> And the snowflakes on hacker news are all acting butthurt over it
08:12 <@oddball> of course
08:21 <@Dagmar> You're not talking about some babylonbee article are you?
08:21 < aestetix> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180813214328.GA15137@beast/T/#u
08:21 < PigBot> [GIT PULL] gcc-plugin updates for v4.19-rc1 (at lore.kernel.org) http://tinyurl.com/ybdolbqy
08:50 <@Evilpig> some scammer made an order at wish.com this morning using my wilpig @ wilpig.org email address.  I reset the password on the account to find out who this 'Roy' was that supposedly just made an order with my email
08:51 <@Evilpig> the shipping address and phone number were in Niagara NY and the name was a Su Yang
08:52 <@Evilpig> canceled the order with wish and refunded the $3 back to whomever's paypal they were scamming then called the number in the profile and asked for roy.  the very thick accent told me I had the wrong number and my subsequent calls to the number were sent to voicemail
08:52 <@Evilpig> so I went ahead and called Niagara NY PD and filed a complaint of fraud
09:18 < aestetix> well shit
09:18 < aestetix> Aretha Franklin died
09:19 < aestetix> gonna guess the youtube searches for her music is gonna skyrocket now
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09:34 <@Mirage> Saw an article last week I think that she'd been moved to hospice
09:40 < xray> A sad day indeed. 😥
09:46 < aestetix> Lots of sad stuff today
09:59 <@Mirage> Having a fun time getting my address updated with everything..not just the normal fun but the added fun of the fact that the zip was changed Jul 1 and not everyone accepts the new Zip as valid for the address.
09:59 < Healix> lovely, so you get to do it twice
10:02 <@Mirage> The fun one is that my bank isn't taking the updated one.  I really don't wanna have to deal with issues on my CC's sometime later down the road due for all the places that require you to enter the zip.
10:02 <@Mirage> I know from experience that if you put in the wrong one just once on accident your card will likely be disabled until you call in.
10:06 < Healix> I was going to say, don't update your information until after the zip changes...but it already did
10:48 <@dasunt> So Trump's revoking the security clearances of anyone whose pissed him off?
10:50 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egV9yWMFuCE
10:50 < aestetix> enjoy
10:50 < PigBot> E3 - Weird gamer guy (Original) (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/l8kc8er
10:50  * dasunt has no idea why the president hasn't been impeached yet.  Well, other than the GOP.
10:50 <@rhia> dasunt, the orange tin despot seems to be doing so, yes
10:51  * dasunt still boggles at this.
10:51 <@rhia> if their excuse was valid, Michael Flynn would have been the first to lose his clearance but he's not even on the list of targets the WH released
10:52 <@dasunt> Other than no president is likely to ever want to be impeached, I find Trump's actions remarkably consistent with someone who is trying to be thrown out of office.
10:53 <@rhia> i find it consistent with a grifter who idealizes autocratic dictators
10:54 <@dasunt> True.
10:54 <@dasunt> Sooner or later the economy will go south (and it is likely to be sooner, this has been a pretty long bull market), and I suspect the GOP and Trump will attept to throw each other under the bus.
10:55 < aestetix> did you watch that video?
10:55 < aestetix> it's funny
10:55 <@rhia> the economy actually has gone south, he's riding the coattails of the turnaround Obama spent 8 years working on
10:56 <@dasunt> Is there signs that the economy has gone south?  Serious question.  I know Trump is shocking the system (and that won't end well), but I haven't seen it gone south yet.
10:56 <@rhia> the GOP tax giveaway to the rich is going to skyrocket the debt and deficit (funny how they don't give a damn about either when they're in charge)
10:57 <@dasunt> I don't think that's enough for the economy to go south.  If they start doing austerity to bring the debt back in line, that could trigger a recession.
10:57 <@rhia> housing markets are cooling, his trade wars are already being felt in the farmlands and industries
10:57 <@dasunt> There's also, what, D-9 months to Brexit day?
10:57 <@rhia> the jobs being created are low paying while rent is climbing and sending more people homeless
10:58 <@rhia> working people homeless, that is
10:58 <@rhia> the economy looks good on paper to CEO's, but on the streets, not so much
10:59 < aestetix> i dunno
10:59 <@rhia> we're aware
10:59 <@dasunt> Know some conservative, not very smart Trump supporters (blue collar workers) and they seem to be doing okay.
11:00 <@rhia> well, yeah, we're not in a full blown depression, but we're balanced finely on a tightrope
11:00 <@dasunt> The dregs at the bottom - the homeless, the burnt out, the drugged out, the mentally ill, are basically off people's radars at this point.  Most people don't realize how fine of a line it is between themselves and homelessness, and it's easier to dismiss homelessness as something that could never happen to them.
11:02 <@rhia> and a lot of economists are saying there's a recession coming up probably no later than 2020 - conveniently just in time for the runaway GOP recklessness that causes it to be blamed on the democrats getting back in office
11:02 <@rhia> and the cycle repeats, again
11:02 <@dasunt> I dunno.  Could trigger in a few months.
11:02 <@rhia> "no later than"
11:03 <@rhia> and considering how many working people are homeless because they can't afford rent, blanket calling them "dregs" is rather uncalled for
11:04 <@dasunt> rhia: "Dregs" seem not like a bad term - they are those left behind by systems we've created.
11:05 <@rhia> and are usually thrown out
11:05 <@dasunt> And they are those we've convinced have morally failed somehow, and thus, us, as moral people, will never be in that situation.
11:07 <@dasunt> Personally, I'd like to see us treat fellow human beings as human beings, but politically, the homeless are not a factor at this point.
11:07 < Healix> Calvinist work ethic at it's finest
11:08 <@dasunt> Now back to Trump though, if the economy goes south in, say, 2019, even after a blue wave hits the house, I suspect the GOP will suffer more than the dems.  Sure, people hate congress and blame them for everything, but ironically, they also tend to think highly of their own congress critter.
11:10 <@rhia> dasunt, would be nice, but history indicates otherwise - the GOP wrecks the economy, the dems come in and save it all the while the GOP screams about debt, deficit, and tax-and-spend democrats to the point they get back in office and raid the coffers again, rinse, repeat, recycle
11:22 <@dasunt> Well, the dems have a special strategy of not being able to effectively campaign a lot of the time, even when they are obviously the better choice.
11:25 <@dasunt> Maybe they'll lose in 2020.
11:30 < aestetix> i dunno
11:30 <@dasunt> Never underestimate the dems.  :)
11:37 < aestetix> Think there's a chance Trump will actually end the war in Iraq?
11:39 <@rhia> think there's a chance he'll start a war with Iran, North Korea, Turkey, and/or all of NATO etc. etc.?
11:40 <@rhia> he's already started one with the press - calling the free press "the enemy of the people" and "the opposition party" are the actions of a wannabe despot
11:51 <@Dagmar> There's bigger chance he'll manage to destabilize the world economy
11:51 <@Dagmar> The "trade war" shit is already spinning wildly out of control
11:52 < aestetix> well there isn't a shortage of pain points in the world, any one of which could start the next world war
11:52 <@Dagmar> He won't have to start a war if these tariffs keep happening
11:52 <@Dagmar> Supply chains will start shutting down
11:52 <@Dagmar> Goods will stop being manufactured
11:52 < aestetix> or if Turkey executes the greek soldiers they kidnapped. Or if Palestine decides they've had enough of the settlements
11:53 <@Dagmar> Prices will start to spiral upwards at a breathtaking rate
11:53 < aestetix> or if Le Penn gets elected in the next french election and France leaves the Eu
11:56 < aestetix> oh forgot about catalonya
12:44 <@dasunt> Trump could declare victory in Iraq and leave (and that's probably his plan).
12:45 <@dasunt> As for future wars, it all depends if Trump wakes up and sees his shadow.
13:10 <@rhia> or someone tells him "Obama would have never started a war with ______."  Trump would declare war via tweet within the hour
13:20 <@Dolemite> Somebody tell Trump that Obama would grab her by the pussy.
13:20 <@rhia> about that good economy: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-illinois-layoffs-stack-on-tariffs-0815-biz-20180814-story.html
13:20 < PigBot> Chicago-area manufacturer to lay off 150 people, move operations to Mexico, to avoid tariffs on Chinese metal - Chicago Tribune (at www.chicagotribune.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9nsp8ex
15:58 <@Corydon76> rhia: not that I hope the economy will tank, but I hope it depresses enough that Big Orange won't be reelected in 2 years.
16:01 < TheDukh> Drpepper17!
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21:26 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: lol, kees cook is the kspp guy, which basically all but plagiarizes grsec
21:27 <@_NSAKEY> The name sounded familiar, and I thought it was because of some kernel dev whose commit privs got revoked a few years back for pushing shit code. Can't find that, but found KSPP references and loled.
21:29 <@_NSAKEY> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/20/security_people_are_morons_says_linus_torvalds/
21:29 < PigBot> Some 'security people are f*cking morons' says Linus Torvalds • The Register (at www.theregister.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/y9z7zzcl
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