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06:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:15 <@Mirage> Dolemite: so what class are you heading to OR for?
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09:21 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Elastic Engineer I
09:21 <@Dolemite> Mainly because it's end of FY money
09:21 <@Dolemite> That was the only location with an on-site training between the point I was told to find something and the point at which I'd have to complete the training
09:34 <@Mirage> lol.. "Due to virtual classroom JavaScript requirements, we recommend that you disable any ad-blockers and restart your browser before class."
09:35 <@Mirage> Translation: we have ads in the classroom stuff, whether actually displayed or not, in order to further supplement our income
09:43 <@Corydon76> Mirage: I've found that a number of classroom apps do hokey things with Javascript that are flagged as ad techniques, including KnowBe4's training.
10:36 < aestetix> wait
10:36 < aestetix> Are you paying for the class?
10:37 <@Corydon76> I'm not, no.  The company is.
10:38 < aestetix> Ok so.... someone is paying for the class.
10:38 < aestetix> And they are still running ads.
10:38 < aestetix> I could see running ads if it were a free class or something
10:38 <@Corydon76> And if I fail to complete it by the due date... Actually, I don't think anything will happen.
10:39 < aestetix> It's not some super valuable training you can't get anywhere else?
10:39 <@Corydon76> aestetix: it's not necessarily that they're running ads, just that the programmers they hire to make the class go seem to use Javascript techniques, like auto-playing videos, that are frequently signs of ads.
10:40 <@Corydon76> So the ad blockers detect it as an ad and block it.
10:40 < aestetix> Seems like something QA should have caught
10:41 <@Corydon76> You assume they have a QA department
10:41 <@Corydon76> And you assume that they care.  They're running their tests on vanilla browsers
10:42 <@Corydon76> Until Chrome and Firefox embed ad-blockers, they're never going to catch it.
10:43 <@Corydon76> I've actually reported one of their apps that didn't work, and their internal response is to disable the ad blocker or try another browser
10:43 <@Corydon76> But hey, I don't have to like it.  I don't even have to watch their entire videos.
10:44 <@Corydon76> I think the last course was a 20 minute course which I completed in 11 minutes, because I skipped most of their videos.
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12:02 <@Evilpig> Mirage: I just send this to wigal.  https://photos.smugmug.com/Comics/Pa-comics/n-xmQS5/i-jTVGZTg/0/2100x20000/i-jTVGZTg-2100x20000.jpg
12:02 < PigBot> None (at photos.smugmug.com) http://tinyurl.com/y96kj8lo
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12:18 < aestetix> http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401950-white-supremacist-rally-leader-gets-yelled-at-by-his-dad-during
12:18 < PigBot> White supremacist rally leader gets yelled at by his dad during livestream | TheHill (at thehill.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9q25m83
12:42 <@oddball> bwahahahaha
13:10  * dasunt laughs.
13:32 <@Corydon76> Let us hope his father has the sense to evict him.
13:33 < aestetix> I would pay to see him defend himself in court against his parents eviction
13:33 < aestetix> God that would be funny
13:34 <@Corydon76> He has no money to pay for a lawyer for that.  All his money is tied up defending himself in the fallout of his rally from last year.
13:34 <@Corydon76> Maybe people will get the message that it is not profitable to be a giant dickhead.
13:35 < aestetix> He could just defend himself.
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14:25 <@ezelkow1> hmm, did i finally get riot.im going right
14:25 <@ezelkow1> looks like it
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15:22 <@dasunt> So I think I mentioned this yesterday, but when I was looking at the judges for yesterday's election, one got in trouble for doing 40 in a 30, while drunk, and tried to weasel out of it by saying he was a judge to the officer.
15:22 <@dasunt> Guess who got reelected?
15:25 <@eryc> heh
15:26 <@oddball> That's standard.  He just got caught doing it.
15:27 <@dasunt> True.  But there was someone else running for the seat.
15:29 <@oddball> By the way, if anyone know any "fun" things to sign phone numbers up for.  This company was severly shady and dickish.  615-505-4412
15:43 <@Dagmar> What were they selling?
15:53 <@oddball> Financial... services...
15:53 <@oddball> they weren't real clear.
15:54 <@oddball> But they claimed to work with a company that we (the MA studio) already had an account with... but they would say who that was...
15:54 <@oddball> but they sure wanted to "upgrade" our account!
15:54 <@oddball> Oh, and they were real cagey about giving the name of their business.
15:56 <@Corydon76> So you're saying, sign up various banks to talk to them via contact request forms?
16:01 < xray> Does their their CEO happen to be a Nigerian Prince?
16:01 <@oddball> heh
16:01 < xray> I hear they have lots of money they need laundered and will pay you handsomely. 😏
16:10 <@Dagmar> oddball: Would it just so happen that your phone number starts with 615-505?
16:10 <@Dagmar> ...because that's how they _usually_ spoof things.
16:10 <@Dagmar> Also, that number pings back to a land-line in Clarksville which I'm pretty sure is a reasonable driving distance to make a police complaint with.
16:12 <@Dagmar> Also, just you using the phrase "Financial... Services..." like that tells me it was the same fraudsters I regularly tormnet.
16:13 <@Dagmar> Let me give you something useful for dealing with these people, if you don't feel like setting your phone on a laptop playing homoerotic fetish fiction readings...
16:13 <@Dagmar> https://www.fakenamegenerator.com/
16:13 < PigBot> Generate a Random Name - Fake Name Generator (at www.fakenamegenerator.com) http://tinyurl.com/q5dykvp
16:13 <@Dagmar> Go make up a person, right now.  Be as detailed as you want, invent a college history (because college loans) and a work history, and when those fuckers call... YOU BE THAT FAKE PERSON.
16:14 <@Dagmar> You've made sure that the address is one which does not exist (thanks, Google Maps) but seems convincing, and everything else is just a matter of chutzpa
16:15 <@Dagmar> You're interested in reducing your credit card debt, your home mortgage is a whopping 5.5%, and you've $135,000 in student loans you don't know how you're going to pay.
16:15 <@Dagmar> Waste their fucking time.  Waste it, and record it.
16:16 <@Dagmar> Make their time your own.
16:17 < xray> social engineering the social engineers. I like it.
16:17 <@Dagmar> ...and feel free to engage in small-talk with them.  Their job sucks, their boss doesn't care about them, they're not making much money, and wouldn't it be just deserts if someone came in and shot up the office.
16:18 <@Dagmar> "Everyone's so hostile and they're just trying to help" is NOT a useful gambit.  They already know they're engaging in fraud.
16:19 <@Dagmar> That's the one thing to really avoid if you want to get inside their head.
16:19 <@Dagmar> However, if you want to be more sinister, some of these guys are on ACDs that don't allow them to hang up
16:19 <@oddball> Dagmar: My boss actually called the number back.  It's not spoofed.
16:20 <@Dagmar> Theres' no way in hell they're actually in Clarksville
16:20 <@oddball> yeah.  It actually belongs to a VOIP that's not tied down to a specific address.
16:20 <@Dagmar> I just can't accept that the solution is only about two hours of driving and a gallon of extra gasoline
16:20 <@Dagmar> A
16:20 <@Dagmar> h
16:21 <@Dagmar> If you get someone that can't hang up, it's tewtelly fair to play them "Bears in the Woods: A Sexual Exploration"
16:21 <@oddball> ha!
16:21 <@Dagmar> ...or some other very specialized fetish erotic audio book.
16:21 <@Dagmar> The more specific, the more likely it is to upset someone, possibly even traumatizing them
16:22  * oddball is reminded of the NOC days. "please hold for an important message." "ok" /me hits the "hold" button.
16:22 <@Dagmar> xray: A "captive audience" is probably the thing I most should not be allowed to have access to
16:23 <@Dagmar> It's a recipe for guaranteed mischief, and if I know said audience is up to no good, then basically, all the safety valves come off my behaviour.
16:27 < xray> What they are doing is illegal what you are doing is not. Some times you just have to take a moment and treasure the simple things.
16:27 <@Dagmar> Well, my suggesting that maybe someone should shoot up the workplace is kinda iffy, but... "It's entertainment"
16:28 < xray> let the phone scammer torment begin
16:28 < xray> bwahaha
16:28 <@Dagmar> basically, my approach is to give them a real and tangible reason to NOT want any more calls to go to my number
16:28 <@Dagmar> Hearing someone convincing your employee that shooting up the office is a good idea is a pretty potent reason.
16:29 < xray> have you listed the the calls recorded by the Jolly Roger Phone Company? They are really funny.
16:29 <@Dagmar> I've heard a number of such things
16:29 <@Dagmar> I may start posting mine under a complete burner identity
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18:25 < dfused> so many days I debate just buying a sailboat and vanishing to some pacific island.
18:28 <@Dagmar> They seldom have good internet access there.
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19:33 < dfused> @dagmar yeah - If I'm vanishing into an island...i dont want any interwebs... just me and alcohol till I fade into the sea
19:42 < K`Tetch> clearly somone's never watched death in paradise
20:02 <@eryc> is that a thing
20:02 <@eryc> i want to watch that
20:09 <@eryc> link the imdb?
20:09 <@eryc> K`Tetch
20:11 <@eryc> sounds like a lifetime movie
20:11 <@eryc> i've read plenty of real stories
20:12 < xray> It is a who donit series based on a tropical island
20:12 < xray> actually pretty good
20:12 <@eryc> have you seen Black Mirror
20:12 < xray> yes
20:12 < xray> modern twilight zone
20:13 < xray> very will done
20:13 <@eryc> definitely well done
20:18 <@Dagmar> I'd have said "The Outer Limits" but I don't disagree as to its awesomeness.
20:19 < xray> A lot of people aren't familiar with the outer limits. I loved that show.
20:19 <@eryc> yea that's a good point
20:19 < xray> They had some seriously whack episodes
20:20 <@eryc> the episode where the politician had to fuck a pig is rather timely
20:20 <@eryc> so far we've had a non-homo homo pantsing and a dildo biting exercise
20:22 < xray> TZ was 1959 and OL was 1963.
20:23 <@eryc> i didn't realize they were that close, whats the end for each?
20:24 <@eryc> TZ used to freak me out
20:24 <@eryc> only the opening scene tho
20:24 < xray> TZ was 1959 - 1964
20:25 < xray> OL was 1963 - 1965
20:26 <@Dagmar> The Outer Limits has done more seasons since then
20:28 <@Dagmar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outer_Limits_(1995_TV_series)
20:28 < PigBot> The Outer Limits (1995 TV series) - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/z9ln5xv
20:28 <@Dagmar> THey actually did a _really_ good job on those, too
20:28 < xray> I'm not sure I saw that
20:29 <@Dagmar> Well, you're in for a hell of a treat then
20:29 < xray> I'll have to check the usual sources and see if I can find it
21:58 < K`Tetch> eryc - sorry, was having dinner etc. It's on netflix, 7 seasons so far, British show
21:59 < K`Tetch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_Paradise_(TV_series)
21:59 < PigBot> Death in Paradise (TV series) - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/hdutl5o
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