--- Log opened Sat Aug 11 00:00:07 2018 02:23 -!- cyberanger_ [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.1+deb1 - https://znc.in] 10:18 -!- shapr [~shapr@haskell/developer/shapr] has joined #se2600 10:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o shapr] by ChanServ 10:18 <@shapr> PhreakNIC 22 this year, yeah? 10:19 <@shapr> I still want the motto to be "encrypt your echo chamber" 11:31 < xray> shapr: long time no see 11:31 < xray> I have been doing a lot of work with the circuit playground express 11:32 <@shapr> howdy xray ! 11:32 < xray> what happened to the con badge project? 11:32 <@shapr> I got distracted 11:32 <@shapr> also mog, needs to send me the code he said works :-P 11:32 <@shapr> but I still have several boards 11:32 <@shapr> I could whip up something fun 11:32 <@shapr> I wonder if mog will be at PN22? 11:32 <@shapr> xray: are you enjoying the board? 11:57 < xray> yes 11:57 < xray> I've already built a few things out of it. 11:58 < xray> I've been systematically going through and writing sample code for each of the devices on the board. 11:59 < xray> I have found that a good deal of the sample code on the net does not work. I finally figured out why. 12:00 < xray> There is firmware for the board and CircuitPython for the board. They are both under constant development. The code will work depending on the mix of versions of the two. 12:00 < xray> Since I upgraded my board to the latest version of both a good deal of the sample code on the net doesn't work. 12:01 < xray> I found open source code for a similar device to turn it into a TV-Be-Gone. https://www.tvbgone.com/ 12:01 < PigBot> TV-B-Gone Universal Remote - Turn OFF Virtually Any TV! (at www.tvbgone.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydgf5vjw 12:02 < xray> I need to port the code to the CircuitPlayground express. I've been looking for people to partner with on the project but so fare no joy. I have someone I haven't asked yet so there is still hope. 12:18 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-73-11-137-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 12:42 <@shapr> xray: oh, I didn't know that 12:42 <@shapr> xray: I was able to record and play back TV remote signals from the circuit playground express 12:42 <@shapr> so I think it'd be as simple as just playing the whole range of on/off toggle signals 13:18 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 13:22 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:33 <@eryc> whats the pcb look like? 13:51 <@shapr> eryc: for circuit playground? 13:52 <@shapr> eryc: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3333 13:52 < PigBot> Circuit Playground Express ID: 3333 - $24.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits (at www.adafruit.com) http://tinyurl.com/yau8no5r 13:52 < Healix> you using circuit python on it? 13:53 < Healix> i just bough a few boards from adafruit, their micropython boards just a few to play with ...still waiting on them to arrive. 13:53 < Healix> What are you doing with your Circuit Playground? 13:59 < Healix> oh ....just looked i think it's here lol 14:04 <@shapr> last year I wrote some firefly code based on https://ncase.me/fireflies/ 14:04 < PigBot> Fireflies (at ncase.me) 14:04 <@shapr> but it didn't work very well, and I never could figure out why 14:06 < Healix> ah very cool 14:16 <@shapr> testing with other IR receivers implied that I was unable to reliable send IR signals 14:16 <@shapr> but other testing implied I was also unable to reliably *receive* signals 14:16 <@shapr> so basically, I spent a month on it and gave up after PhreakNIC 21 14:16 <@shapr> but I like to think that xray is having more success 14:17 < xray> Healix: Yes, I'm using CircuitPython 14:20 < xray> The only major issue has been that most of the sample code I find online doesn't work with the latest versions of the firmware and CircuitPython. I have been able to figure things out because the source code is avaialble. 14:20 <@eryc> shapr: ah. that's pretty cool. what's the badge con project then? 14:20 <@eryc> er flip that 14:21 < xray> The idea was to use the circuit playground express as a universal hacker con badge. 14:22 < xray> They are inexpensive and over time people would come up with interesting hacks and games using them. 14:22 < xray> This is a lot easier than trying to come up with custom badges for every con. 14:22 < xray> Especially for the smaller cons like PhreakNic (as opposed to DEF CON). 14:31 <@shapr> eryc: yeah, that's the plan, universal hacker con badge 14:31 <@shapr> bunnie did something similar with the orchard project 14:31 <@shapr> but you can't just buy one of those 14:31 <@shapr> https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?tag=orchard 14:31 < PigBot> orchard « bunnie's blog (at www.bunniestudios.com) http://tinyurl.com/y935jj3h 14:31 <@shapr> At least, last time I asked bunnie he said they weren't for sale 14:32 <@shapr> Corydon76_: do I need to explicitly arrange with benthemeek to run the lightning talks this year at PN22? 14:32 <@shapr> oh hey, _NSAKEY is also here 14:33 <@_NSAKEY> shapr: I would just tell ben that you want to do it again. 14:33 < xray> _NSAKEY: is running the CTF 14:33 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, I'm pretty much laser-focused on the network this year, to the exclusion of everything else. Basically, what I normally do. 14:33 <@shapr> _NSAKEY: ok, will do 14:33 < xray> I would love to come back to PhreakNic. 14:33 <@shapr> xray: do it! 14:33 <@shapr> xray: you missed last year due to back surgery, right? 14:33 < xray> I'm not able to travel yet medically 14:33 < xray> yes 14:34 <@shapr> ah, sorry to hear that 14:34 < xray> thanks 14:34 < xray> I also had cancer surgery and chemo this year as well as dealing with back issues 14:34 < xray> but I'm still breathing and hacking 14:34 <@shapr> sounds like a shitty year 14:34 <@shapr> yeah, glad to hear that part 14:35 < xray> depends on your point of view. 14:35 < xray> 100 years ago it would have killed me 14:35 <@shapr> good point 14:35 < xray> well to be honest I did die once in the ER 14:36 < xray> It took them three days to get me breathing on my own again 14:36 <@shapr> yikes 14:36 < xray> and sad to say I don't remember any of it. 14:36 <@shapr> not sure I'd want to remember that 14:36 <@shapr> but hey, could be a best-selling book 14:36 < xray> then again that is probably a good thing. I just woke up after three days with tubes coming out of my face 14:37 <@shapr> does not sound fun 14:37 < xray> It would be a short book. Scream with pain, woke up three days later. the end 14:37 < xray> it wasn't 14:37 < xray> but like I said I'm still alive, so it's all good 14:38 <@shapr> yeah, better than the alternative 14:38 < xray> had another close call this year and thankfully I was in the ER again when it went south. 14:38 < xray> exactly 14:38 < xray> to gloomy. So how bout that CPX 14:39 < xray> circuit playground express 14:39 < xray> Ada Fruit talked to the original maker of the TV-Be-Gone and got the TV codes. 14:39 < Healix> So the idea is that our badges sync up / communicate /do somethign when were near each other at Phreaknic? 14:40 < xray> They built a device and made the code open source. 14:40 < xray> yes 14:41 <@eryc> trade nudes of IR 14:41 < xray> Also it is possible to make them into a TV-Be-Gone or Ninja Remote https://www.amazon.fr/Ninja-Remote-Weaponized-T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision-Brouillage/dp/B005AZCGOI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534016487&sr=8-1&keywords=ninja+remote 14:41 <@eryc> check out this light sample 14:41 < PigBot> Ninja Remote Weaponized Tv Jammer Prank Toy. Gadget Toy De Télévision Pour Le Brouillage, Le Contrôle De La Télévision: Amazon.fr: High-tech (at www.amazon.fr) http://tinyurl.com/y75bdbfd 14:42 <@eryc> its a good idea.. it takes a lot of work to fab a board without errors 14:42 < xray> I don't have the source for the Ninja Remote thought but I do for the TV-Be-Gone 14:42 <@eryc> xray: how did you end up in the ER that one time with the 3 days and tubes? 14:43 < xray> eryc: I thought so too. When shapr mentioned it I got a couple of the CPX boards to experiment with 14:44 <@eryc> although i guess it encourages people to make pcbs 14:44 < xray> I had back surgery and a sharp spec of bone was left behind. It cut a hole in the dura of my spinal cord and 2.5 cups of CSF leaked out. Also the nerves herniated out the hole. 14:45 <@eryc> oh so you woke up from back surgery after 3 days? 14:45 <@eryc> ..and all that 14:45 <@shapr> Healix: bunnie huang's burning man badges each had a unique LED pattern, and the badges could swap 'genes' to change their patterns 14:45 <@shapr> xray: holy crap 14:46 <@eryc> do they give you a discount on room and board when that happens? 14:46 <@shapr> so, there was some code created for this project: https://github.com/makerslocal/pn21-badge 14:46 < PigBot> GitHub - makerslocal/pn21-badge: Circuit Playground Express-based badge for PhreakNIC 21 (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc6llnam 14:46 < xray> No, I had back surgery and went home. A week into recovery I was going to the bathroom and the strain along with the nick in the dura caused an abrupt rupture. They got me to the ER just in time. 14:47 <@shapr> yuck, no fun 14:47 <@eryc> yea that's worse than i was hoping 14:47 <@eryc> and you don't remember going to the bathroom? 14:48 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 14:49 < xray> No, I remember that and the ride to the ER. When I got their the pain went off the charts and I remember screaming and contorting into weird shapes to make the pain stop. I woke up 3 days later. 14:49 <@shapr> yikes 14:49 < xray> It sucked 14:49 < xray> I now understand that silly pain chart. 14:50 < xray> I can give you a working description of each of the pain levels. 14:50 < xray> But that has nothing to do with hacking. 14:50 < xray> Has anyone run the PhreakNic CPX code? 14:50 <@eryc> lol @ working description 14:51 < xray> I have made a couple of interesting projects so fat. 14:51 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has joined #se2600 14:51 <@shapr> xray: it was running on a pile of CPXs at PN21 14:51 < xray> The source of the PhreakNic code has commends on what it is intended to do. 14:52 < xray> I would be surprised if it works on the latest firmware 14:52 < Healix> @shapr oh that's awesome. 14:52 < xray> I'll have to try it 14:52 <@shapr> xray: I dunno, but if the latest firmware improves IR send/recv, I'd be happy to update the code 14:52 < xray> I made a strobe light and used it to freeze my figit spinner 14:53 <@shapr> xray: oh, did you try all the stock sketches? the fidget spinner sketch is funny 14:53 < xray> I haven't tried any of it yet. 14:54 < xray> I have been making sample code to demonstrate each of the onboard devices 14:54 <@shapr> I received a BeagleWire this week, so I've been learning Verilog and I ordered some pmod boards 14:54 <@shapr> xray: there's a nice megademo that does all of them together 14:54 <@shapr> but purpose specific is much easier to read/learn 14:55 < xray> Do you have a link to the Mega demo? 14:55 <@shapr> lemme look 14:55 < xray> I haven't done any FPGA work yet 14:56 <@shapr> I've been reading about FPGAs for almost a year, but now I'm setup to DO something 14:58 <@shapr> xray: found it https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPlayground/tree/master/examples/mega_demo 14:58 < PigBot> Adafruit_CircuitPlayground/examples/mega_demo at master · adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPlayground · GitHub (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7at39gy 14:58 <@shapr> other examples here: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPlayground/tree/master/examples 14:58 < PigBot> Adafruit_CircuitPlayground/examples at master · adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPlayground · GitHub (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7nogqoj 14:59 <@shapr> including the fidget spinner example 15:01 < xray> thanks 15:06 <@shapr> those are all arduino based, I haven't looked for circuit python examples 15:07 < xray> I have created examples in javascript, make code, arduino, and circuitpython. 15:07 < Healix> I'll buy one if the intention is an interactive badge. 15:07 < xray> CircuitPython is the most straight forward because you don't need to compile the code so it makes dev much faster. 15:08 <@eryc> how much free space on the CPX 15:08 < xray> 2mb 15:08 < Healix> Ok. Sounds good. Bonus for me as i'm trying to learn python. 15:08 <@eryc> i thought that was total space 15:08 < xray> I wish there was a way to augment the memory 15:08 < Healix> brb gonna mess with something 15:08 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 15:08 < xray> maybe with something attached to the USB port 15:08 < xray> OK 15:08 <@eryc> everyone should learn python 15:08 <@eryc> its not hard 15:09 < xray> The idea is we can make it anything we want. Most people want to make something interactive. 15:09 < xray> We can also add on daughter boards. 15:09 <@eryc> well there is a middle ground to the learning curve but you can do some basic things easily 15:11 <@eryc> anything circuitpython is just a library that someone made up and it sounds like it changes pretty often 15:12 <@eryc> not unlike python 15:12 < xray> exactly 15:13 < xray> also the firmware for the CPX is under active dev so the two together make for an interesting moving target 15:19 -!- Healix_ [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has joined #se2600 15:19 < Healix_> ahh much better, traded byobu for plain tmux 15:20 <@shapr> I like byobu, but it certainly can eat my battery 15:20 < Healix_> It was nice, but i'm using weechat and the keybinding interfered with each other 15:20 <@shapr> fair enough 15:20 <@shapr> emacs is my irc client :-) 15:20 <@shapr> znc is my bouncer 15:20 <@shapr> but I need to write sipp tests today :-( 15:20 * shapr cries 15:20 < Healix_> so within weechat it was hard to go to different buffer's, ie pm's 15:21 < xray> I use The Lounge. It is a client and bouncer all in one. Web based. 15:21 < xray> https://thelounge.chat/ 15:21 < PigBot> The Lounge — Self-hosted web IRC client (at thelounge.chat) http://tinyurl.com/y9nrrwhg 15:22 < xray> I run it on an RPi. I don't expose the web interface to the internet. I only allow connections from local host. So I connect via ssh and tunnel the port to the machine I'm on. 15:23 < xray> That way I can use 2fa for the ssh login. 15:24 < Healix_> That sounds interesting... 15:24 <@shapr> xray: do you use pihole? 15:24 < xray> yes 15:25 <@shapr> I want to do that 15:25 <@shapr> but so many projects ... 15:25 < xray> very easy to setup 15:25 < Healix_> Im using an rpi now, with pi hole and for this 15:25 < xray> so many things to hack, so little time 15:26 < xray> I think I'm running 6 RPIs in production at the moment 15:26 <@shapr> yeah, my list gets longer all the time 15:26 < Healix_> lol im not quite to 6, i have this 1 and a 3b for octoprint and a 3b+ that i just had Kali loaded on for learning 15:27 < xray> I also built a lock pick workstation to take to dc404 meetings 15:27 < xray> I build all kinds of things. 15:27 < Healix_> What are you using 6 for? if you don't mind me asking 15:27 < Healix_> Oh that's sweet. My lock pick set will arrive when my esp8266's get here from china... 15:28 < xray> My halogen torchiere lamp died so I moded it to use off the shelf LED light bulbs and dimmer 15:29 < xray> the original was bright white @ 9,000 lumens. The new one is bright white @ 12,800 lumens and only uses 120W instead of 500W 15:30 < Healix_> oh awesome saves some $, any automation with it? 15:30 < xray> If I can remember them all without looking it up. 15:32 < xray> Pi Hole, The Lounge, DHCP server, Ubiquti AP management console, media center, and a mumble server 15:33 < xray> I had to go look because I couldn't remember them all. In fact I'm due to patch them. 15:34 < xray> The Ubiquiti thing is called a Unifi Controller 15:35 < Healix_> Ever think about combining some of those and gain back some pi's? 15:35 < Healix_> i'm thinking of buying a pi zero w and switching my pi hole / irc server over it...just to gain back a more powerful pi 2b+...not that i have a use for it... 15:38 < xray> I thought about that but then when I do work on one service I take multiple down. 15:39 -!- rhia [~rhia@wtcdsl-66-165-15-89.whidbeyteldsl.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 < xray> It also allows for easy misinterpretation. I build a new replacement and just swap out the device or just the SD card. 15:40 < xray> s/misinterpretation/experimentation/ 15:41 < xray> So far they have been very stable. 15:41 < xray> The only box that died and required a rebuild was the Pi Hole. 15:41 < xray> Which took about 30 minutes 15:41 < xray> The longest part is imaging the SD card with a fresh OS 15:42 < Healix_> I've heard it's logging kills SD cards 15:42 < xray> Also some of them are older model Pis. 15:42 < xray> I haven't had a problem so far and some of them have been running for several years now 15:42 < Healix_> i don't know how true that is, i've also heard a bad psu for the rpi could also do it or either. 15:43 < xray> Bad power supplies will cause issues. 15:43 < Healix_> You mention stability, i think the most unstable thing is me. 15:44 < Healix_> I've heard conflicting things...is something like an iphone wall usb plug good enough? 15:44 < xray> I only use supplies rated for the RPis. Although I'm working on powering them all from an ATX power supply savaged from an old computer 15:45 < xray> Healix_: probably as long as it puts out enough current. 15:45 < xray> Some of the cheap supplies won't put out their rated current and they can have to much ripple. 15:47 < Healix_> Yes iphone power block is good enough. Just looked it up a B+ requires 1A of power at 5v Maximum. exactly what that power plug gives. 15:51 -!- Healix_ is now known as Healix 15:54 < Healix> Do you use a secondary DNS in your router? or just direct it to your Pi-Hole? 16:03 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:10 -!- Healix [~Healix@173-81-120-147.chstcmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined #se2600 16:10 -!- Healix [~Healix@173-81-120-147.chstcmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:11 -!- cyberanger_ [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has joined #se2600 16:14 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has joined #se2600 16:16 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-73-11-137-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:17 < xray> I send everything on the net to the Pi Hole which points to 1.1.1.1 16:18 < xray> no that's not right. it goes to 9.9.9.9 and then to 1.1.1.1 as a backup 16:33 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:43 -!- Healix [Healix@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/healix] has joined #se2600 16:43 < Healix> Yea i fixed it 16:44 < Healix> pihole wasnt resolving the DNS, just a little digging and a setting's change...funny after a conversation about how reliable pi's / pihole is... 16:44 < Healix> just spent the last 45 minutes fooling with it 17:18 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 17:19 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 17:59 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-73-11-137-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:03 -!- cyberanger_ [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.1+deb1 - https://znc.in] 18:04 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-73-11-137-36.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:09 < xray> I need topatch mine 20:36 -!- Corydon76_ [~quassel@zett.abyt.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:41 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@zett.abyt.es] has joined #se2600 20:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76] by ChanServ 21:37 -!- rhia [~rhia@wtcdsl-66-165-15-89.whidbeyteldsl.net] has joined #se2600 21:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 22:01 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@zett.abyt.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Sun Aug 12 00:00:09 2018