--- Log opened Wed Aug 08 00:00:03 2018 00:22 -!- hobbes615 [~hobbes615@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:58 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edbmjdpjreykbfmw] has joined #se2600 00:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 01:04 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edbmjdpjreykbfmw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmjuqzizkgxpauoa] has joined #se2600 01:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 03:08 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmjuqzizkgxpauoa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:35 -!- fie [~fie@gateway/tor-sasl/fie] has joined #se2600 06:19 < aestetix> fie: maybe if you come to CCC :) 06:36 < fie> chaos community congress? 06:37 < fie> /camp -- coriciden cold and cough? 06:38 < fie> Going to the camp is part of my pipedream agenda 06:38 < fie> I have family there and am associated with an anarchist hacker group that goes. 06:40 < aestetix> congress, yes 06:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:41 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:21 < fie> /o/ 07:21 < fie> \o\ 07:33 -!- fie [~fie@gateway/tor-sasl/fie] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:38 <@Corydon76> Is there a cluster technology that allows me to load balance a set of maintenance tasks written in Shell script, without needing to rewrite each of my tasks? 08:49 <@brimstone> how do you mean, load balance? 08:49 <@brimstone> are the shell scripts receiving requests of some sort, like http? 08:52 < aestetix> Corydon76: well technically ansible is just sshing into systems and doing shell script like things 08:56 < aestetix> I guess super smash brothers is popular 08:56 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awl4L0yVdkg 08:56 < PigBot> Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct 8.8.2018 (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybru586k 08:56 < aestetix> the new nintendo direct is exclusively about that game 09:04 <@dasunt> Corydon76: Like Puppet/Chef/whatever? 09:06 <@Corydon76> dasunt: I have various database updates, search indices updated, filesystems synced to CDNs, etc. It only needs to happen once for the whole system, but it could happen on any of a set of different nodes. I want to balance out the tasks, instead of heavily loading a single system. 09:07 <@Corydon76> Puppet/Chef/etc are great for the opposite, ensuring that a set of tasks are performed on EACH node in a cluster. 09:07 <@dasunt> Setup a separate cron job for each task on a different system? 09:08 <@Corydon76> Yeah, that seems to be what I'm going to have to do. I wanted to see if there was a way to balance the jobs automatically, because more jobs would be added on a periodic basis. 09:08 <@dasunt> Shell script on one system that checks all the other systems' cpu/mem/disk usage, then allocates each task? 09:10 <@Dolemite> You could run Puppet/Chef as containers in a swarm/kubernetes pod and spread the load out 09:14 <@Dolemite> https://boingboing.net/2018/08/08/washington-post-made-a-good-17.html 09:14 < PigBot> Washington Post made a good 17-minute video about the rise and fall of Paul Manafort / Boing Boing (at boingboing.net) http://tinyurl.com/y85g8s64 09:31 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxictdujzentsgay] has joined #se2600 09:38 <@dasunt> There's a motorcycle training class near me for $250. 09:38 <@dasunt> Should I do it? 09:39 <@Dolemite> If you plan on riding a motorcycle, yes 09:39 <@Dolemite> Though $250 seems a bit high 09:39 <@Dolemite> I paid maybe $125 for mine. Granted, that was 10 years, ago. 09:39 <@Dolemite> Well, 8 years. 09:40 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 09:41 <@Dolemite> dasunt: Where are you? Nashville? 09:41 <@dasunt> Minneapolis 09:41 <@Dolemite> https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mmsc/rider-training/Documents/2018-rider-training-brochure.pdf 09:42 <@Dolemite> $180 09:42 < PigBot> None (at dps.mn.gov) 09:43 <@Dolemite> That will also waive the requirement for you to take the test at the DMV 09:44 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:45 <@dasunt> I was looking at this: http://www.rideracademy.com/ 09:45 < PigBot> Rider Academy • Learn to Ride (at www.rideracademy.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9xehs6y 09:45 <@Dolemite> It's the same thing, just more expensive 09:45 * dasunt waits for that PDF to load. 09:47 <@Dolemite> All that Rider Academy is offering is a smaller class size guarantee, for more money. Both provide training bikes for the Basic Rider Course. 09:47 <@Dolemite> You only have to bring a helmet and gloves. 09:49 <@dasunt> That's one thing I'd need to pick up. 09:50 <@dasunt> I probably should have a better helmet for my scooter anyways, but the engine is anemic. 09:51 <@Dolemite> They have a scooter course that's cheaper, if that's what you're riding 09:53 <@dasunt> My scooter is 50cc, so a regular license covers it, no endorsement necesssary. I've been tempted to get a motorcycle though. 10:06 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 10:09 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:31 <@Dolemite> Typically at the courses you ride a 250cc bike. We had Nighthawk 250's at the course I did, so I ended up getting a Nighthawk 650 as my first bike. 10:31 <@Dolemite> If I wasn't such a fat ass I'd likely have stuck with it, but I got an ST-1100 a few years, later. It's um... powerful. 10:35 <@dasunt> Really don't think I"d mind a 350 or something like that. 11:06 <@dasunt> Dolemite: Btw, thanks. That does save me $70, if I do it. 11:06 <@Dolemite> No problem 11:06 <@Dolemite> Spend that money on a good helmet 11:07 <@Dolemite> Cycle Gear has some good sales on theirs and they do a great job with their warranty 11:07 <@Dolemite> I had one that the screw for the flip-up visor came off of - just needed a new screw, so they gave me a whole new helmet. 11:09 < TheDukh> Best way to wake up in the morning is phone notification of a work incident. 11:21 <@dasunt> Huh, '80 Honda CX500c on CL right now for $1600. 11:21 <@Dolemite> '84 CB650SC for $1000, but you gotta come to Knoxville to pick it up :) 11:22 <@dasunt> LOL. 11:22 <@Dolemite> It needs a battery and new front tire. 11:22 <@dasunt> Am I shooting myself in the foot for if I buy an 80s bike? 11:22 <@dasunt> Say $1k - $2k price range? 11:22 <@Dolemite> Pro: Very little electronics, so easier to maintain 11:23 <@Dolemite> Con: Difficult to get original parts 11:23 <@dasunt> I'm fine with that. 11:23 <@dasunt> My scooter is a '79 - I'm already having fun with my turn signal upgrade. (And it's 6V!) 12:09 < aestetix> sigh 12:09 < aestetix> anyone know what hardware/software is needed to play doom 2004? 12:10 < aestetix> gone through multiple windows versions in both vmware and virtualbox 12:40 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:41 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 12:59 <@Evilpig> aestetix: Windows 2000/XP 13:00 <@Evilpig> https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/doom-3/10221 13:00 < PigBot> DOOM 3 system requirements | Can I Run DOOM 3 (at www.systemrequirementslab.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6u39t3r 13:07 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Have you watched the Comedy Central Roast of Bruce Willis? 13:15 <@Evilpig> I have not 13:15 <@Dolemite> Do it 13:15 <@Dolemite> I'm watching the roast of Trump right now 13:15 <@Dolemite> Seth Macfarlane is the host of it 13:16 <@Dolemite> "Trump has such an ego, when he's banging a supermodel, he closes his eyes and imagines himself jerking off." 13:32 <@Evilpig> Having to deal with a hot wash meeting on friday to answer for my transgressions over updating an ssl certificate on monday that somehow broke the clinical desktop environment 13:33 <@Evilpig> Just did the math to figure out how many systems were affected by the updates and the subsequent figures of success to failure. 99.9986% success 13:34 <@Evilpig> these jack asses will have to answer as to why they felt it was okay to thumbprint the ssl wildcard that was in use and lock the clinical workstations into that specific cert so when the update was applied their system denied the new valid cert 13:41 <@Dolemite> OMG, they actually let "The Situation" from Jersey Shore take the stage for the Roast of Donald Trump. He's horrible. 13:42 <@Dolemite> HORRIBLE 13:43 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Yeah, that's pretty damn stupid, tying an app to a specific cert fingerprint 13:50 <@Evilpig> I can see someone doing that for a self-signed cert, but not a valid one from an external ca 13:51 <@Evilpig> I can also see that happening for an external ca if you don't allow your systems access to the net to verify 14:01 < aestetix> ok 14:01 < aestetix> finally got an xp image, installed in vmware 14:01 < aestetix> soon we'll see if this works 14:02 < aestetix> so Dolemite 14:02 < aestetix> what makes you a better candidate for POTUS than the incumbent? 14:03 <@Dolemite> I don't want to be POTUS 14:18 < aestetix> well that didn't work either 14:18 < aestetix> I guess I won't be playing doom 14:28 <@dasunt> What makes a burning dumpster fire a better candidate than the incumbent? 14:44 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxictdujzentsgay] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:07 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 -!- eryc [emiller@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has joined #se2600 15:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o eryc] by ChanServ 15:13 <@dasunt> Also, wtf thought that "perjury trap" sounds like a good defense? 15:14 <@dasunt> Really, the president's legal team does't want Trump to answer questions because he may commit perjury"? 15:15 <@dasunt> Because he's committed perjury in the past and they don't want him to have to lie again or actually tell the truth this time? 15:16 <@rhia> they know that the real trial is in public - what his base will believe and what they can make the "who cares about politics" majority will swallow 15:17 <@rhia> so they misdirect, lie, whatever it takes to make and shape the narrative the way they want it to go - screw the truth or facts 15:18 <@dasunt> I just don't get this spin. 15:18 <@rhia> because you have more than two working brain cells 15:20 <@rhia> it's aimed at believers and short attention span media consumers, not at people who actually think about it 15:21 <@dasunt> It doesn't take much thinking. It's like saying you don't want the police to test the bloody knife in your drawer because they are trying to spring a "murder trap" on you. 15:22 <@dasunt> Except that is a better excuse, since presumably the police could be biased and use the blood to stage evidence. Unlike an interview, where I'm sure both sides will record it. 15:23 <@rhia> "grab 'em by the pussy" was recorded, his base - including the puritanical evangelicals - could not have cared less 15:33 <@Corydon76> I think that's a misrepresentation. I think they held their noses and voted for him, because they'd already done a very good job of vilifying Hillary. 15:34 <@Corydon76> And they couldn't go back on that without getting egg on their faces. 15:34 <@rhia> disagree - they love to compare him to other "flawed" biblical leaders "chosen by god" 15:35 <@Corydon76> The Southern Baptists ditched their long time leaders, and have elected a new guy who is determined to get the Baptists out of partisan politics, because it has shrunk their constituency and influence 15:36 <@Corydon76> The Southern Baptists are, by far, the largest evangelical denomination in the country, so that's a harbinger of things to come. 15:36 <@rhia> evangelicalism crosses denominations, hell, Pence is and evangelical catholic 15:38 <@rhia> -d 15:38 <@Corydon76> I don't know if they've been disappointed by Trump or not. I rather think that a number of those chickens are coming home to roost 15:39 <@Corydon76> Trump's base is something like 20% of the population, and he cobbled together a large enough coalition to win in 2016. If the election were held today, he'd lose. 15:39 <@rhia> except every time anyone believes that, the chickens don't roost and Trump's hold on the base seemingly increases 15:40 <@dasunt> I'm not sure if Trump's hold has increased. 15:40 <@Corydon76> There were a number of LGBTQ people who voted for Trump, for example, and they've been shocked to find out that he was lying on every single one of his campaign promises to them 15:40 <@dasunt> The number of Americans identifying as Republicans has shrinked. 15:41 <@Corydon76> Trump no doubt has a hold on his base. But his base isn't a majority. 15:41 <@rhia> on the flip of that, a number of Libertarians did not vote for him and yet now support him - for some bizarre reason or other 15:41 <@Corydon76> For that matter, the core people who support Hillary were probably around 20%, as well. Same for Bernie. 15:41 <@Corydon76> Elections are about building coalitions. 15:42 <@Corydon76> Because if you rely only upon your core supporters, you will lose. 15:42 <@rhia> dasunt, the democrats have a similar issue - more people are fed up with both parties and many people just don't fricking care about politics - Kanye and Kim posted something new!!!! 15:42 <@dasunt> I'm not sure if the Democrats care about politics either. ;) 15:42 <@Corydon76> rhia: I'm reminded of the bumper sticker slogan, "I bet you'll vote next time, hippie." 15:44 <@Corydon76> As long as Trump keeps pissing people off with his policies, he's going to lose in 2020, assuming the Democrats can put up a candidate that isn't completely spineless. 15:44 <@rhia> which is weird because the hippies i grew up with were all very political - and Kent State had that effect on the ones who weren't previously 15:44 <@dasunt> Corydon76: I could see the Democrats running a very, very bland moderate in 2020. 15:44 <@Corydon76> rhia: I believe the "I bet you'll vote next time, hippie." originated with Nixon's '68 campaign 15:44 <@rhia> Corydon76, the dems put the most toxic candidate they had up against him last time 15:45 <@dasunt> A decent fraction of the Democratic party seems to think the problem is that they aren't centralist enough. 15:45 <@rhia> Corydon76, yeah, true 15:45 <@Corydon76> rhia: well, but she wasn't that toxic, really. She just had a TON of baggage. 15:45 <@rhia> dasunt, and that faction is the dem party leadership 15:45 <@Corydon76> And most of it were simply lies. But the truth doesn't matter, only what people perceive to be true 15:46 <@dasunt> IDK. I don't see Hillary having a ton of baggage. I'm probably biased, but for someone with her career length, she seemed to be about par for the course. 15:46 <@Corydon76> That's why I think it's important for the Democrats to find another submarine candidate, like Barack Obama was in 2008. 15:46 <@Corydon76> Find someone who the Republicans haven't been vilifying for a dozen years. That means Pelosi is out. 15:46 <@dasunt> Pelosi should be out, IMO. 15:47 <@rhia> Corydon76, the GOP had 30 years of vitriol against her - too much to overcome, esp for those people who bought the populist argument 15:47 <@dasunt> Jebus, can't the party find someone under the age of 65 to run? 15:47 <@Corydon76> rhia: exactly 15:47 <@rhia> dasunt, amen 15:47 <@Corydon76> dasunt: you do know that 35 is the minimum age for the President, right? 15:48 <@dasunt> I said 65. Not 35. There's a 30 year range. 15:48 <@rhia> Corydon76, Pelosi is pushing 80 15:48 <@Corydon76> Just like you have to be 30 to be a Senator and 25 to be a leader in the House 15:48 <@dasunt> Note Clinton (Bill) and Obama were both in their 40s. 15:48 <@rhia> if you're going to run a nearly 80 female with years experience, run Maxine Waters 15:49 <@dasunt> RBG. 15:49 <@Corydon76> Yes, but the point is that if the minimum is 35, we're selecting someone in an age range which is shifted notably to the older ages 15:49 <@dasunt> Screw it, go for broke. :) 15:49 <@rhia> at least she'd make the campaign interesting, hehe 15:49 <@Corydon76> That's why Kennedy was our youngest President thus far. 15:49 <@rhia> dasunt, oh hells no, we need her exactly where she is 15:49 <@dasunt> rhia: Does the constitution not allow her to do both? 15:50 <@rhia> she's too smart to want to be President 15:50 <@Corydon76> dasunt: correct, you can only serve one branch of government at a time 15:50 <@Corydon76> Judges cannot serve in the legislature unless they resign, first; legislators cannot serve in the Executive. 15:51 <@Corydon76> If the 25th were ever enacted, the Speaker of the House would have to resign from the House in order to be Acting President. 15:51 <@Corydon76> s/enacted/invoked/ 15:53 <@Corydon76> Legislators who were appointed into Trump's cabinet had to resign their elected positions before being sworn in to the Executive Branch. 16:04 <@Corydon76> Interestingly, there doesn't appear to be a prohibition on judges serving in the Executive, or vice versa. 16:10 < aestetix> No offense, but if the choices from the democratic party are Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, the democrats are fucked 16:12 <@rhia> if the democrats run another old white man, like Biden or Kaine, they're fucked 16:12 <@Corydon76> So in other words, we need another black man. 16:13 < aestetix> Well, eminem is black on the inside... 16:13 <@rhia> we need someone who can mobilize a large segment of disenchanted and disenfranchised apathetic people 16:13 < aestetix> I hope the democrats can figure something out. As of right now, I think Trump will be re-elected. Not on his own merits, but because the democrats are a mess. 16:14 <@Corydon76> Will Rogers once said, "I don't belong to any organized political party. That's right; I'm a Democrat." 16:15 < aestetix> Well it would be nice if the democrats stood for something, instead of against everything. 16:15 <@Corydon76> I think the Democrats have always been in some form of disarray, and counting them out because of that is foolhardy 16:15 < aestetix> I'm not counting them out because of that, I'm saying they will lose to Trump because of that. 16:15 < aestetix> You think I *want* Trump to have another four years? 16:16 <@Corydon76> aestetix: I think that's within the realm of possibility that you're a closet Trump supporter. 16:16 < aestetix> Because I hate Hillary? 16:17 <@Corydon76> I have met some very strange people who were Trump supporters. 16:17 < aestetix> Even though on many, many occasions I have said I hate Trump? 16:17 <@Corydon76> Well, sure, you hate Trump, now, but what about when he's in campaign mode? 16:17 < aestetix> I hated him then too. 16:18 < aestetix> And to be fair, he doesn't ever seem *not* to be in campaign mode. 16:18 < aestetix> In fact, there is only one candidate I fully endorse. 16:18 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 16:18 <@Corydon76> I hear his new campaign is to die for. (Seriously, he's going to be shooting people on Fifth Avenue.) 16:20 * aestetix throws a banana at Corydon76 16:25 <@rhia> aestetix, the democrats DO stand for something, that you so blithely try to state otherwise would indicate that you can't be bothered to check the facts in favor of simply regurgitating rhetoric from those sites you claim to never read or watch 16:29 < aestetix> rhia: what do they stand for? 16:30 <@rhia> oh, ffs - you are not as dense as you're desperately trying to appear 16:30 <@Dagmar> Greed and self-interest, mainly 16:30 <@Dagmar> They're career politicians, after al 16:31 < aestetix> rhia: to be fair, I'm having a hard time pinpointing what the republicans stand for at the moment too 16:32 <@rhia> well, what the GOP says they stand for is basically opposite of how they govern: for families, separate them and deport parents, for workers? kill unions and give corporations massive tax breaks w/no strings , etc. etc. 16:33 <@Dagmar> For _their_ families 16:33 <@Dagmar> Fuck everyone else 16:33 <@rhia> the ACA may be sorely lacking but at least it was a bandaid attempting to fix a problem - the GOP just keeps gutting anything that may help regular people ... live 16:34 < aestetix> rhia: agreed, the ACA fucked up a few things, but it also fixed several major glaring issues. 16:34 < aestetix> well issues for people who need health care 16:34 <@rhia> if you're not rich (and now under Trump, can safely add "white" to that) Republicans don't give a rats ass about you except how to exploit you 16:35 < aestetix> Also, I really, really hate how the democrats have embraced identity politics. 16:35 <@rhia> aestetix, fuck that 16:35 <@rhia> the GOP has embraced white nationalism, how the hell is that NOT "identity politics"? 16:35 < aestetix> I hate that too. 16:35 < aestetix> Maybe I should have said "I hate how both parties have embraced identity politics" 16:36 <@rhia> so, democrats saying "hey, it's perfectly fine to be brown or lgbtq" is somehow on par with white nationalism? yeah, NO. 16:37 < aestetix> That's not what I said. 16:37 <@rhia> that's what you imply when you clump them both together with "I hate how both parties have embraced identity politics" 16:37 < aestetix> Nope. 16:38 <@rhia> maybe you should take a bit more time to think out your positions 16:38 < aestetix> I'm pretty clear. I hate both sides. 16:38 <@rhia> and i've wasted enough time today 16:38 < aestetix> I kind of wish there could be some kind of hunger games where everyone in Congress was forced to battle to the death. 16:40 < cyberanger> The pilot episode of Designated Survivor works for me. 16:54 <@dasunt> I'm just fine having a retractable roof for congress, locking the doors, and voting on if we want to unlock the doors each day. 17:09 <@rhia> I'd like to make all candidates live about 6 months in various scenarios like "The Game" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(1997_film) homeless, moneyless, phoneless, dropped in an area they don't speak the language, and make them have to go thru the US systems of immigration and social services as a lowly nobody 17:09 < PigBot> The Game (1997 film) - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/ogs2fg3 17:13 <@dasunt> LOL. 17:57 -!- Corydon76_ [~quassel@zett.abyt.es] has joined #se2600 17:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76_] by ChanServ 18:02 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Corydon76, ^020d, @Mirage 18:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mirage 18:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 18:09 -!- ^020d [~^020d@108-192-158-126.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 18:58 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39 < ezelkow1[m]> anyone know of fairly cheap handheld emulation box? I used to have a dingoo like 8 years ago that emulated a lot of stuff fairly well and was hackable, got linux and more up to date emulators running on it 20:39 < ezelkow1[m]> figured there has to be something more recent out there now 20:46 < xray> Raspberry Pi? 20:47 < xray> You would have to build it out. 20:48 < xray> RetroPie 20:49 < xray> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2032055368/the-encade-a-portable-raspberry-pi-gaming-console?ref=discovery 20:49 < PigBot> The eNcade: A Portable Raspberry Pi Gaming Console by Nicolas Wicker / Nzen Mods —Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ljuj4ef 20:51 < ezelkow1[m]> yea i guess, i just figured by now there would be something for like 40-50$, but the only things out there are some wierd chinese ones with like 20 games preloaded 20:51 < ezelkow1[m]> all emulated, but no way to modify 20:52 < ezelkow1[m]> an dim guessing the encade is dead, the site goes nowhere --- Log closed Thu Aug 09 00:00:04 2018