--- Log opened Tue Jul 31 00:00:51 2018 00:17 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:29 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 00:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 00:43 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:01 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 01:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 02:57 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:59 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 04:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 04:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 04:48 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:57 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 04:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 05:38 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:41 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 05:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 05:51 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:55 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 05:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:26 <@Dolemite> Mirage_: Made an eBay offer on a B800i Elite and the seller took it, so next Tuesday I should have my new chassis. No drives right now, but I'll start looking for the fire sales this holiday season. 06:42 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:25 <@Dolemite> Mother pussbucket. They just keep getting more and more bizarre. You really can't make this shit up. 07:25 <@Dolemite> https://boingboing.net/2018/07/30/cockburn-v-riggleman.html 07:30 < aestetix> wait what the fuck 07:32 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: You can make it up, but it won't be more bizarre. 07:39 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:08 * dasunt ponders if that's safe for work. 08:14 <@Dolemite> It is 08:15 <@dasunt> I think I see the link on BB. 08:20 <@Dolemite> That's where I linked it from, so uh, yeah... 08:21 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 08:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 09:01 <@Corydon76> What happened to the link bot? 09:01 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-9tUEOFKNU 09:03 <@Evilpig> probably disconnected. let me check 09:03 <@Evilpig> I need to get some time and code that better 09:03 <@Evilpig> it was stuck on the back side of a split 09:03 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 09:26 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyearmrgbmhvzzlf] has joined #se2600 09:29 <@dasunt> All alone, poor little Pigbot. 09:34 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:34 < xray> 20 states take aim at 3D gun company, sue to get files off the Internet 09:34 < xray> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/20-states-take-aim-at-3d-gun-company-sue-to-get-files-off-the-internet/ 09:34 < PigBot> 20 states take aim at 3D gun company, sue to get files off the Internet | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/y87tu6w3 09:34 < xray> PigBot . . . LIVES 09:34 < xray> yeah 09:35 <@dasunt> Emails today. So far: 53. 09:35 <@dasunt> All work-related. 09:39 < K`Tetch> Fun story, did a little of the research on it - https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252445769/Briton-ran-pro-Kremlin-disinformation-campaign-that-helped-Trump-deny-Russian-links 09:39 <@dasunt> Huh. "Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn't matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!" 09:40 < PigBot> Briton ran pro-Kremlin disinformation campaign that helped Trump deny Russian links (at www.computerweekly.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybhcqoxp 09:40 <@dasunt> That's an actual Trump tweet. Where he's apparently accusing Clinton and the Democrats of not engaging in a crime...? 09:48 <@dasunt> Also, I'll note that going from "I didn't do it" to "I didn't do it but if I did, it wasn't a crime" makes me wonder if we're moving closer to impeachment. 10:07 <@rhia> only if Meuller can bring down Pence with Trump 10:08 <@rhia> (that's a plea to the universe, btw, not a statement of how an impeachment would work) 10:09 <@Corydon76> If Pence is brought down, it will only be by accident. I doubt he undertook any willful actions, as he's a pretty smart politician. Not that I agree with him on most things, but he's not the conniving con man Trump is. 10:10 <@rhia> interestingly telling that he has not been questioned by Meuller - that smells like he's a target 10:10 <@rhia> we can but hope 10:12 <@Corydon76> I think it's more likely that he hasn't been questioned because he came into the campaign only after the primary season, which is where Mueller's investigation spent the most time examining. 10:13 <@rhia> shh, don't spoil the only positive of the entire mess 10:14 < aestetix> you know 10:14 < aestetix> I used to criticize Bush a lot because he spent too much time on the golf course 10:14 < aestetix> but I would pay a lot of money for Trump to turn off his phone and go play golf 10:14 <@rhia> forever 10:15 <@Corydon76> Perhaps Mueller will dig up that Trump has concealed a heart attack and triple bypass from the American people 10:15 <@Dolemite> His base doesn't care 10:15 <@Dolemite> They don't care what you come up with 10:16 <@Dolemite> He has become their poster child for their perceived disenfranchisement 10:16 < K`Tetch> Corydon76 - a lot of the investigation has been post-primary. the convention was mid july, before hte 'russia hack and get these emails' claims, for instance 10:16 <@Dolemite> He was absolutely correct when he stated that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and they'd still vote for him 10:16 <@Corydon76> No, I know they don't care. But enough politicians in the House and Senate care to use his medical record as just cause for allowing the VP to exercise the 25th Amendment 10:17 <@Dolemite> Pence could be even worse 10:17 <@Dolemite> He's practically on the poster for Hulu's version of The Handmaid's Tale 10:17 < K`Tetch> if there's an impeachment, it may wait until Jan, when they could get both trump and pence, and then it's the speaker, will it be a dem? 10:17 <@rhia> Pence would be b a d - he's a skilled politician who really wants a theocracy 10:17 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:18 <@Corydon76> And while I agree with you on Pence, the other thing I think about is how the country will swing in the following national election 10:18 < K`Tetch> emmeber what hapepend 8 years ago - the tea party ervolt 10:18 <@Corydon76> An extremist in the White House is a gift to the opposite party 10:19 < K`Tetch> first midterm always provides a massive opposing swing 10:19 <@rhia> what we need is for liberals and progressives to claw back the Senate and the House and wait out the orange one 10:19 < aestetix> I would love that 10:19 < aestetix> they would gridlock each other 10:20 <@Corydon76> It looks like that's the case for the House. 10:20 <@rhia> worst scenario is that the GOP not only keeps the Senate, but gains more seats 10:20 <@Corydon76> Whether it's true for the Senate is questionable at this point 10:20 <@Dolemite> Just remember, the pollsters also thought Hillary had it in the bag. 10:20 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:20 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:20 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 10:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 10:20 < aestetix> Dolemite: no they didn't. Realclearpolitics shows things accurately 10:20 <@Dolemite> Right before the end, yes 10:20 < aestetix> it's just the clinton propaganda networks like CNN that did 10:20 <@rhia> voting matters 10:20 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: So you're saying the pollsters are wrong about the Senate likely staying in control of the GOP? 10:21 < aestetix> rhia: yep 10:21 <@Dolemite> Of course, the real story is that Trump is the President elected through apathy 10:21 < K`Tetch> but theres been internal and external pressure. my state rep's been unopposed for years (disgraced former judge johnnie caldwell, you might remember the Sam bee segment last year) - he not only lost his primary (albeit to a pence-like fuckwit) but there's a dem challenger too 10:21 <@Dolemite> Corydon76: No, I'm saying that it's unlikely that we'll see both flip over 10:21 < aestetix> https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html 10:21 < PigBot> RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton (at www.realclearpolitics.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7r7h66p 10:21 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: that's precisely what the pollsters are saying now. 10:22 < aestetix> you'll notice that none of those poll numbers show 91% for clinton 10:22 <@Corydon76> A Senate flip is unlikely. Possible, but unlikely. 10:22 < aestetix> or whatever the hell CNN was "reporting" 10:22 <@Evilpig> https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180731005582/en/ 10:22 < PigBot> MoviePass Accelerates Plan For Profitability | Business Wire (at www.businesswire.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8ee6rfv 10:22 <@Dolemite> I don't recall ever seeing anybody listing Hillary @ 91%, or even 71%. More like 55/45. 10:22 < K`Tetch> the thing about th Senate flip, is that this cycle, it's mostly dem seantors up for [re]election - just not that many GOP ones are at risk 10:22 <@Corydon76> aestetix: 91% chance that Clinton wins doesn't mean it's in the bag. It means that it's more likely than not. 10:22 < aestetix> Dolemite: I do. 10:23 < K`Tetch> I don't, aestetix 10:23 < K`Tetch> and I tracked ALL the numbers very closekly 10:23 <@Dolemite> Ok, then you did. I'm simply saying that polls are, by nature, a guessing game. 10:23 <@Corydon76> But it's a misreading of statistics to say that she would definitely win. 10:23 < aestetix> https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/political-prediction-market-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html 10:23 < PigBot> Clinton's chances for the White House on the rise - CNNPolitics (at edition.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/yd6pgx6h 10:23 < aestetix> first sentence 10:23 < aestetix> "Hillary Clinton's odds of winning the presidency rose from 78% last week to 91% Monday before Election Day, according to CNN's Political Prediction Market." 10:23 < K`Tetch> but yes, polls are just a statistical prediction. a 1% change comes up still 10:23 <@Corydon76> aestetix: all that tells me is that you don't understand statistics. 10:24 < K`Tetch> (in fact, a million-to-one chance comes up 99 times out of 100) 10:24 < aestetix> I'm sorry. I said I saw a 91% chance on CNN. You challenged me. And now I have cited the source. And now you're telling me I don't understand statistics. 10:24 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I'm waiting for the Class Action suit to be announced against MoviePass for changing the rules so often. 10:24 <@Corydon76> But, for that matter, most people don't understand statistics. 10:24 <@rhia> aestetix, Clinton did win the popular vote - by ~3 Million -- and for some odd reason, Kemp and others aren't interested in verifying if the Russians flipped votes or not 10:25 < aestetix> I still maintain CNN is a propganda machine. 10:25 < K`Tetch> eugh, the GASoS office of elections is a fuckign joke anyway 10:25 < K`Tetch> has been for years 10:25 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Dolemite challenged the 91%. I said you don't understand statistics. Different people. 10:25 <@rhia> oh, piff - FOX is a propaganda machine 10:25 <@rhia> K`Tetch, yep 10:25 < K`Tetch> it's quite literally easier for any of us here to start a political party in Russia right now, than to start one in GA 10:25 <@Corydon76> Yeah, CNN isn't propaganda... it's just chasing ad dollars 10:25 < aestetix> oh ok 10:25 < K`Tetch> and I know thats the case, because i've done it 10:25 <@rhia> and, in GA, there is no paper trail 10:26 <@rhia> just already proven to be easily hackable machines 10:26 < aestetix> rhia: I don't think that's a useful argument. If the electoral college is there, 3 states decide the election. If it goes away, 3 states decide the election. 10:26 < K`Tetch> kinda annoyed I had to pull out of the election security panel at DCon this yaer 10:27 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: likely. but there isn't anything there to get. I just looked at my history and i've seen 36 movies since i got the card and that's been nearly a year now. 8/15 is when I first subscribed 10:27 <@rhia> aestetix, its a point 10:27 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Right, just 3 different states. And the states that no longer decide the election wouldn't be very happy about it. 10:27 < K`Tetch> 3 states *don't* decide the election if the EC goes away, bcause states are compeltely irrelevant absent the EC 10:27 < aestetix> Corydon76: yep 10:27 <@Corydon76> And I'm guessing the other 3 states won't be thrilled about becoming battleground states, either 10:28 < aestetix> Corydon76: what, you don't think San Francisco won't be overjoyed to get visits from Ted Cruz and Donald Trump? 10:28 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Yeah, I'm down to an average of $4.99 per ticket that I've gotten, so I was smart enough to get my money's worth. 10:28 <@Evilpig> $3.3333333 is what i'm at 10:28 < K`Tetch> right now, theres 3.2 million people in montanna, wyoming and the dakotas. They get 12 EC votes. there's 3.5M in san diego and iperial counties in california, thats 1/10th of the state pop, so they get effectively 5.5 EC votes, maybe 10:28 <@dasunt> Without an EC, would you have states being focused on? 10:28 <@dasunt> Or regions? 10:28 <@Corydon76> California won't decide the election, UNLESS there's a California Republican on the ticket 10:28 <@dasunt> Maybe subregions of states? 10:28 <@Evilpig> but my viewing habits haven't really changed either. 10:29 < aestetix> Corydon76: good thing that's never happened before 10:29 < aestetix> K`Tetch: you sound like a populist :) 10:29 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Are you forgetting Reagan or being ironic? 10:29 < K`Tetch> i'm a factualist 10:29 <@Evilpig> I'm likely to cancel before my renewal next month and switch to amc a-list since that's where I typically go 10:29 < aestetix> Corydon76: I was being sarcastic, trying to make a joke 10:29 <@Evilpig> but I may not because I still only go to 3 - 4 a month and generally the matinee @ ~$5 a ticket 10:30 < K`Tetch> I don't go tot he cinema, the rare occasions I do, there's a art deco one a short walk away, their tickets are $6, and they show a lot of the big movies 10:30 <@Corydon76> West Wing's final two seasons made the unlikeliest of a campaign, by running a California Republican against a Texas Democrat. 10:30 <@Corydon76> Flipping two of the biggest states 10:36 <@dasunt> Jesus fucking Christ. 10:36 * dasunt wants to tell his boss ... well... 10:42 <@dasunt> Literally, writing "For fuck sake, let me get my damned PTO!" 10:42 <@dasunt> But that's probably not wise. 10:51 <@Corydon76> He's not letting you have your PTO? 10:52 <@dasunt> Here's my problem. I was stupid and said "hey, I need to get some stuff done, can I take off Friday or Monday? 10:52 <@dasunt> And now it's like "nothing works for two weeks OMG we're in the middle of a project! 10:52 <@dasunt> Note, btw, boss is at a conference right now. For today and yesterday. 10:53 <@dasunt> One rule for me, one for thee. 10:53 <@Corydon76> Doesn't HR handle PTO requests? 10:54 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 10:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 10:56 <@dasunt> Yes, but we are supposed to clear them with our bosses. 11:03 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 11:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 11:19 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 11:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 11:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:46 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 11:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 11:53 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 11:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 12:02 < xray> anybody pay with Sonic Pi? 12:02 < xray> play 12:04 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:15 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 12:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 12:22 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:29 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 12:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 12:34 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:12 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:22 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 14:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 14:50 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 14:52 <@dasunt> Anyone have a Surface Laptop? I must be missing something, because from my perspective, it looks like programs silently install in the background when you run an executable. 14:52 <@dasunt> And that would be utterly stupid not to have a program notify you when it's finished installing. 14:54 <@dasunt> Or is this OS install broken? 14:55 <@Evilpig> only used one at the store. 14:55 <@Evilpig> they looked neat, fwiw 15:12 <@dasunt> They are nifty bits of hardware. 15:12 <@dasunt> I'm just a little confused if this is broken, or I'm missing something, or it's by design. 15:17 <@Evilpig> I didn't care for the power cord on them. otherwise they are nifty 15:24 <@dasunt> The power cord looks like it's partially design to disconnect without damaging, and partially designed by some person who wanted to be "different". 16:23 <@dasunt> Could someone please tell the news about zip guns? 16:26 <@dasunt> I'm getting bored with the 3D gun panic. 16:37 <@Dagmar> "Thousands of people download yet another thing to waste space in their Downloads folder. Bloggers spread panic." 16:52 < K`Tetch> i kinda wish 3d printers were a thing, back when I had a gun repair/restoration company 20 years ago 16:53 < K`Tetch> be a hell of a lot quicker and easier 17:02 <@dasunt> Wouldn't a CNC machine be better? 17:06 <@dasunt> 180 work emails today! FML. 17:39 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:57 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sllfwlzavsttmvdg] has joined #se2600 17:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 19:00 -!- z3r0wn3d1 [~z3r0@186-107-82-117.baf.movistar.cl] has joined #se2600 19:00 < z3r0wn3d1> hi 19:00 < z3r0wn3d1> peopple 19:10 <@Evilpig> no 19:10 <@Evilpig> stop that 19:10 -!- PigBot [~PigBot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 19:43 < dfused> goddammit. saw win svr 2019 thinking ...wow.. that sso far in the future... then realized its only a couple months. ....now I has a sad. 20:06 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sllfwlzavsttmvdg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:16 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyearmrgbmhvzzlf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:17 -!- z3r0wn3d1 [~z3r0@186-107-82-117.baf.movistar.cl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:38 <@Dagmar> Note: this is almost never a good idea 23:47 < aestetix> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2018/07/31/okay-lets-talk-about-bigfoot-erotica 23:47 < PigBot> Let's talk about Bigfoot erotica - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7gm65o3 --- Log closed Wed Aug 01 00:00:52 2018