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01:30 < aestetix> you know
01:30 < aestetix> I was thinking about american history
01:30 < aestetix> and.... is there any period of a couple years where there *wasn't* some major crisis that almost ended civility?
01:31 < aestetix> since if you think about it, the entire country's existence is basically one massive crisis after another, almost continuously
01:31 < aestetix> that may be true for world history in general
02:26 <@Dagmar> It's not newsworthy if it's not a crisis
03:59 < aestetix> hmm. if someone is so deeply possessed by an ideology that they are unwilling even to consider that they might be wrong, and they think any disagreement with them is just not understanding their ideology.... is there really any point to attempting to engage?
03:59 < aestetix> for example, with fundamentalist christian types
04:00 < aestetix> I'm not saying they *are* wrong, I'm simply saying they won't consider they might be.
06:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:16  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:04 <@Corydon76> aestetix: the issue isn't about whether you choose to engage.  It's whether they will accept compromise.  A religious ideologue will not.
07:05 <@Corydon76> It's his way or no way.
07:06 < aestetix> Corydon76: yeah, but if they don't compromise, then engaging is a waste of time.
07:06 <@Corydon76> Depends upon the circumstance.  If you're running for a seat, then not engaging might mean you lose the race
07:07 < aestetix> that's true
07:07 <@Corydon76> If you're governing, avoiding engaging may mean you lose your next race.
07:08 <@Corydon76> And remember what appeasement got the Weimar Republic
07:08 < aestetix> good thing I'm not planning to run for office. ever.
07:09 < aestetix> Now Dolemite on the other hand
07:09 <@Corydon76> Dolemite already did run for office, and won, multiple times.
07:10 < aestetix> yes, so he has the necessary experience to take on Trump
07:20 <@Dolemite> Yes, I won over the hearts and minds of at least a dozen voters, over the years.
07:21 < aestetix> that's enough to win my vote
07:24 <@Evilpig> heh.  Ozzy came to nashville for his show with jack
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09:06 <@dasunt> aestetix: Yep, got a pickup.  A chevy from the late 70s.
09:54 <@dasunt> Reading about SpaceX trying to recover fairings, while none of the competition can even recover the first stage, makes me really wish I had some SpaceX shares (even if they aren't a public company yet).
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12:43 <@dasunt> Looking at the Falcon1 versus Falcon9, that was a heck of a leap in size.
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14:26 <@Dagmar> Its cool how LinkedIn doesn't seem to even be aware people might want to add their work history
15:11 <@Mirage> LinkedIn needs to add a "i'm not currently on the market for a job, so don't let ppl I'm not connected with contact me" button.
15:16 <@Mirage> lol...and right after I typed that I got _another_ "I saw your profile..." email.
15:17 <@Mirage> Dagmar: you might like this one.. "I noticed your profile and thought it might be a good match for the following or perhaps you could refer someone? Please advise A visionary hands-on security infrastructure engineer who can perform product evaluations in Proxy (forward, Reverse, Transparent and Web 2.0), SSL interception/MITM & Data leakage space, Cloud security (Encryption and Tokenization), Security Analytics and Forensics, and Multi Variant Advanced Per
15:19 <@Dagmar> So they want someone who can snort a lot of buzzwords?
15:23 <@Mirage> more like squid..not snort
15:30 <@Dagmar> No I literally mean grind up into lines and snort them
15:30 <@Dagmar> ...because all of that together is just word-salad nonsense
15:31 <@Dagmar> Someone might *sneeze* that mess all over a desk and call it production quality without thinking anything was wrong with that
15:33 <@Dagmar> Okay.  thats' enough time wasted with LinkedIn today
15:33 <@Dagmar> I can't believe they've tried to add a fucking friends feed
15:34 <@Dagmar> Hopefully Rattle and Tom put the right dates on their iAsiaWorks stuff, because I've no idea where I might find records of when precisely that all was
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16:14 <@Mirage> By far the best "I saw your profile..." I've gotten was from a headhunter in the company I was working for at the time and was listed as my current employer.
16:15 <@dasunt> Oh, I should get my LinkedIn profile active again.
16:39 < xray> I fail to see how this is a problem :) https://www.techspot.com/news/75686-amazon-controversial-rekognition-facial-recognition-tech-identifies-28.html
16:39 < PigBot> Amazon's controversial 'Rekognition' facial recognition tech identifies 28 lawmakers as criminals during ACLU tests - TechSpot (at www.techspot.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybbnvabz
16:50 <@dasunt> xray: It's obviously too many false negatives.
16:51 <@dasunt> The used photos of the current house and senate, yet only got 28 criminals.  Sounds like it's off by an order of magnitude.
16:53 <@dasunt> Oooh, the list:  https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/amazons-face-recognition-falsely-matched-28
16:53 < PigBot> Amazon’s Face Recognition Falsely Matched 28 Members of Congress With Mugshots | American Civil Liberties Union (at www.aclu.org) http://tinyurl.com/yckrhnnp
16:53 <@dasunt> Check and see if your congresscritter is a criminal according to Amazon!
16:54 < xray> LoL
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