--- Log opened Wed Jul 11 00:00:22 2018 00:17 -!- Corydon76 [~quassel@zett.abyt.es] has joined #se2600 00:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76] by ChanServ 04:08 -!- HackMaster__ [uid45710@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntopvimevpkotlin] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:32 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:33 <@Dolemite> _NSAKEY: The experiment would take a week to complete. I just set them up with the procedure to do so. 06:51 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:55 < aestetix> Have you guys seen this walkaway thing? 08:15 <@Corydon76> You mean 4chan's latest attempt to troll the Internet? 08:17 < aestetix> well the big D democrats are basically having a civil war over identity politics 08:17 < aestetix> which goes alongside the republicans civil war 08:18 < aestetix> maybe both parties will die and some new, more civil parties will form in their place 08:19 <@Corydon76> If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. 08:19 <@Dolemite> not likely 08:19 < aestetix> I can always hope 08:20 <@Corydon76> People have been touting 3rd parties forever, and unlike today, in the past, they actually had a chance of becoming a separate force. 08:20 < aestetix> well 08:20 < aestetix> the problem with a "walkaway" movement, that seems to be telling people to leave the democrats 08:20 < aestetix> is that there's nothing to go to 08:20 < aestetix> surely they don't suggest becoming a Trumpite 08:21 <@Corydon76> Until the Libertarians have a bloc of representatives in state politics, you shouldn't take them seriously for Congress. And until they have a bloc in Congress, you shouldn't take them seriously in a run for the Presidency 08:21 <@Corydon76> And the same for the Greens 08:21 <@Corydon76> And the Greens actually do have a bloc in California state politics, so there, it's fine to take them seriously for Congress. 08:22 < aestetix> like of the republican parties.... you have the trump voters, who are vulgar and crass.... then you have the religious bible bumper bigots.... then you have the neocons who want to go to war.... 08:22 < aestetix> there's nothing good there 08:23 <@Corydon76> There's lots of good there. It's very divisive, which means it makes it all the more difficult for their coalition to govern 08:23 < aestetix> ok that is fair 08:24 <@Corydon76> By comparison, the Democrats are positively united. But they aren't united, either. They have their own constituencies. 08:25 < aestetix> That's really sad the the GOP is so broken that they make the democrats look like they have their shit together 08:28 <@Corydon76> As a minority, both parties have their shit together and appear absolutely united. As a majority, every asshole thinks it's in his power to get the party to bend to his will for his own constituency 08:28 <@Corydon76> That's why Congress is in such disarray 08:29 <@Evilpig> # rpm -V kernel-3.10.0-862.3.2.el7.x86_64 08:29 <@Evilpig> .M....... g /boot/initramfs-3.10.0-862.3.2.el7.x86_64.img 08:29 <@Evilpig> anyone know what the g is for? 08:36 < aestetix> Corydon76: isn't that how it often goes though? 08:36 < aestetix> When you're the minority party, you can unite in opposition against Goliath 08:37 < aestetix> but then when you get into power, if you don't have a plan, you're fucked 08:40 <@Corydon76> Blame Newt Gingrich and his 1994 revolution 08:40 <@Corydon76> Got rid of earmarks, which was the way that leaders used to corral their membership 08:40 < aestetix> Yep 08:41 < aestetix> Was Gingrich responsible for Ken Starr? 08:41 <@Corydon76> Bill Clinton was responsible for Ken Starr 08:41 < aestetix> I would agree with you if there hadn't been whitewater. the GOP was clearly out to get Clinton 08:42 <@Corydon76> There was nothing behind Whitewater. If it were not for Bill Clinton lying to the special prosecutor, there would be no case. 08:42 < aestetix> And there was the whole fact that Gingrich was also having an affair at the time 08:43 <@Corydon76> In EVERY Washington scandal, it is ALWAYS the coverup which trips up the politician. It is never the original scandal. 08:44 <@Corydon76> True, the original scandal might prevent them from being reelected. But that's different from committing a felony during the coverup 08:44 < aestetix> I want to argue, but Trump is proof that you are correct. 08:45 <@Corydon76> Trump is just the latest. Nixon and Reagan and Clinton are all the proof you need 08:45 <@Corydon76> And those are just the Presidents who have gotten tripped up 08:45 <@Corydon76> Never mind all the Congress critters who screwed up 08:52 < aestetix> No, Trump is proof because he doesn't cover anything up 08:52 < aestetix> Things that would take anyone else down have bounced off him. Because he doesn't give a shit 08:53 <@Corydon76> Any and all of his frequent denials are part of his attempts to cover up 08:54 < aestetix> I'm not sure you can call his stringing random words together that barely form a coherent sentence "denial" 08:55 <@Corydon76> In his private business, he had a pattern of denial, delay, and then, when it fails, he declares bankruptcy 08:57 < aestetix> ok so then you explain why this shit keeps bouncing off him 09:02 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@47.39.211.239] has joined #se2600 09:05 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:27 <@Corydon76> Shit isn't bouncing off him. We just have a Congress that won't hold him to account. 09:46 <@dasunt> Well if they hold him to account, they could damage their own party. 09:46 <@dasunt> Who is more important, America or the GOP? 09:53 <@Corydon76> That depends upon who you're asking. 10:10 < aestetix> Corydon76: what is your opinion of Michelle Wolf? 10:19 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: walkaway... as in the Russian trolling operation? 10:20 <@_NSAKEY> Also, paying off Stormy Daniels != coverup? 10:20 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon's pretty much right, except s/4chan/Mother Russia/ 10:21 < aestetix> yeah but even the stormy daniels thing bounced off 10:21 < aestetix> maybe it is because congress has no balls 10:21 <@Corydon76> It's a troll operation in any case. 10:21 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Kind of gives new meaning to "cuckservative" if you ask me, lol 10:21 <@Corydon76> The Stormy Daniels thing isn't over. The scandal has legs 10:21 < aestetix> heh 10:22 <@_NSAKEY> I'm sure the hacker known as 4chan is taking #walkaway and running with it, nonetheless 10:41 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocnbakfyytowgllq] has joined #se2600 10:44 <@dasunt> Well, the other porn star sounded much more interesting of a story, if unproven. 10:56 <@Dolemite> What other porn star story? 10:56 <@Dolemite> I'm apparently missing out 10:57 <@Dolemite> Although I may be better off not knowing, because if I found out that Trump had paid off a midget porn start, I think I'd have to vote for him. 10:57 <@Dolemite> s/start/star 11:00 <@Corydon76> In Soviet Russia, bear pokes YOU. http://www.businessinsider.com/duesseldorf-carnival-float-shows-donald-trump-mounted-by-russian-bear-2018-2 11:00 < PigBot> Düsseldorf carnival: Float shows Donald Trump mounted by Russian bear - Business Insider (at www.businessinsider.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7yn6r6h 11:05 <@Dolemite> ROFL 11:08 <@_NSAKEY> That bear just grabbed him by the asshole, and he didn't do anything. 11:08 -!- fie [~fie@199.15.197.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:10 <@Dolemite> Well, when you're a star, you can get away with it ;) 11:14 <@dasunt> Dolemite: There's a theory that the other NDA that we know of, which Michael Cohen wrote for a "David Dennison" and a different porn star, is actually about Trump. 11:16 <@dasunt> Although someone else has come forward and claimed it was them (the same person has a actual convicted history of helping hide a mistress in exchange for favors that benefitted them financially, and after he did admit it was him, Trump engaged in a policy that was very beneficial to his consulting firm, but at this point, there's no proof.) 11:31 -!- fie [~fie@199.15.197.254] has joined #se2600 11:40 < aestetix> how many fucking porn stars does trump know?! 11:42 <@dasunt> He was friends with Hugh Hefner. 11:42 <@dasunt> So a lot. 11:51 <@dasunt> Get off my lawn! https://brutalist-web.design/ 11:51 < PigBot> Brutalist Web Design (at brutalist-web.design) http://tinyurl.com/ycanxxzk 11:57 * dasunt sets himself on fire. 11:57 <@brimstone> i like it 11:57 <@brimstone> and i like the brutalist web design too 12:12 <@dasunt> I love the brutalist web design, but I tend towards functionality. 12:42 < aestetix> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kzyabe/teenage-boy-inserts-usb-cable-into-penis-a-cautionary-tale 12:42 < PigBot> Teenage Boy Inserts USB Cable Into Penis: A Cautionary Tale - Motherboard (at motherboard.vice.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6w7jhke 13:06 * dasunt nopes out of clicking that link. 13:16 <@_NSAKEY> I wonder if he tried applying power to the other end... 15:04 <@Dolemite> Corydon76: ping 15:05 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: pong 15:05 <@Dolemite> I have finally convinced the wife to let me drop the cable/phone/internet package and replace with internet, however... 15:06 <@Dolemite> she is concerned about when the kids are home. We have Google Voice that they can call out with, but not 911... 15:06 <@Dolemite> What is the cheapest option that does not involve me building and maintaining a private PBX 15:06 <@Corydon76> Giving your kid a mobile phone, possibly tethered inside the house. 15:06 <@Dolemite> Basically looking at buying a SIP adapter, just don't know the cheap options for SIP providers 15:07 <@Corydon76> Do you have a house UPS? 15:07 <@Dolemite> I have one for the network 15:07 <@Dolemite> The SIP adapter would also be on the UPS 15:08 <@Dolemite> The PON adapter for fiber also has a UPS 15:08 <@Corydon76> When it comes to emergency services, I'm queasy about relying upon that many subsystems 15:08 <@Corydon76> Especially inside the house 15:08 <@Dolemite> I've been looking at Anveo. Do you have any experience dealing with them? 15:09 <@Corydon76> With a mobile phone, your exterior fiber could be cut, and your kids could still dial 911 15:09 <@Corydon76> I do not 15:09 <@Dolemite> My son already has a cell phone. This is such a crazy appease-the-wife scenario as it is. 15:10 <@Dolemite> Ok, I will likely just go with them. They're cheap and provide E-911 routing. 15:10 <@Dolemite> http://anveo.com/anveoforobitalk.asp 15:10 < PigBot> Anveo for OBiTALK: High Quality Service - moving beyond GV (at anveo.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8qn3svs 15:10 <@Corydon76> My only provider of note has been flowroute 15:10 <@Corydon76> They support all of the services, and they're cheap, to boot 15:10 <@Dolemite> I'll look at them, thanks 15:11 <@Corydon76> I pay $2.50/mo for service and $0.02/minute for calls 15:12 <@Corydon76> I think, anyway. It's been awhile since I looked 15:12 <@Dolemite> Well Google Voice already gives free inbound and outbound 15:12 <@Dolemite> Looks like I could pay $1.39/month to associate the number with our address for e911 15:12 <@Corydon76> That's probably for my 800 number, anyway 15:12 <@Dolemite> But I don't know if GVoice would simply not make that call 15:13 <@Corydon76> Easy way to tell. 15:13 <@Dolemite> Other than calling 911? 15:13 <@Corydon76> You call, and when they answer, you say, "This is the phone company. We're testing this line. Could you please verify the address you have on file for this number?" 15:14 <@Corydon76> If you say those magical words, "This is the phone company", you will not get any trouble at all from your emergency services provider. 15:16 <@Corydon76> Oh, and I'm apparently wrong about Flowroute costs. Here are their current rates: https://www.flowroute.com/pricing/ 15:16 < PigBot> Pricing SIP Trunking Details | SIP Trunking, Voice, and Messaging (at www.flowroute.com) http://tinyurl.com/pklmabs 15:36 <@Dolemite> I'm hoping that once I get the Obi SIP adapter installed, she'll simply be happy with having that, and we can write the emergency services number on the fridge. It's not like my kids don't know their address. 15:41 <@Corydon76> While I agree in general with that, it's for precisely the occasions that you don't want to think about, ever, that you want the dispatcher to have your address on file when you call. 15:41 <@Corydon76> 911 is the number you hope never to have to dial. It's insurance. 15:41 <@Dolemite> yep, yep, I know 15:42 <@Dolemite> It's not like she'll leave our daughter home alone 15:42 <@Dolemite> And she knows the PIN on both my and my wife's cell phones 15:42 <@Dolemite> About the only case it would be necessary for is if someone broke into our house while we were away and injured themselves and needed an ambulance 15:42 <@Dolemite> In which case, fuck 'em 15:43 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:45 * dasunt beats his head against the wall. 16:01 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-121-109.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 16:07 <@dasunt> Jebus. I know I bitch, but in the last 10 minutes, I've been trying to do task A and have been interrupted three fucking times. 17:05 < aestetix> dasunt: hey I know you're busy but can you check the weather for me? 17:20 <@dasunt> aestetix: Of course! 17:20 <@dasunt> Just remember to interrupt me halfway through the task with another task. 17:23 <@dasunt> Huh, speaking of weather, heat advisory since it's 90F out. 19:18 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocnbakfyytowgllq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:16 -!- HackMaster__ [uid45710@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rstrkshygpnsdyxx] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Thu Jul 12 00:00:23 2018