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04:23 < fie> aestetix, are you a conservative?
04:32 < aestetix> fie: I'm a centrist
04:32 < aestetix> I like to listen to both sides
04:32 < aestetix> why do you ask?
04:50 < aestetix> fie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRt9thvqShE
04:50 < PigBot> Margaret Hoover: The GOP Has Been Trumpified (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/yctjle4g
06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:02  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:53 <@Dolemite> So I am still just baffled by the fact that the two core groups of the Trumpies are (1) People so far right that they are trying to relive the policies of Nazism, specifically the racist elements and anti-Jewish sentiments; and (2) the far right Evangelical crowd who feel that they have to usher in the second coming of Jesus by propping up Jerusalem as the City on the Hill
07:55 <@Corydon76> You're assuming that logic and reason should be at play.  Adherence to Our Dear Leader is a matter of religious fervor.
07:55 < aestetix> You know
07:55 < aestetix> I saw that a documentary on Mr. Rogers is in theatres
07:55 < aestetix> I think we need a new Mr. Rogers
07:56 <@Dolemite> We've needed a new Mr. Rogers and a new Bob Ross for years
07:56 < aestetix> Someone who counter Trump's nonsense, and also attack political correcness, without being vulgar or an asshole
07:56 <@Corydon76> We've only needed a new Bob Ross as a television persona.  The biography of Bob Ross revealed that he was an odious perfectionist who mentally abused his staff.
07:57 < aestetix> Corydon76: you mean like Kubrick?
07:57 <@Corydon76> Kubrick wasn't about projecting a false image of himself on-screen.
07:57 < aestetix> I do wonder how much of that is taking today's ridiculous standards and looking back at how things were years ago, and applying things in a way that is both unjustified and out of place
07:58 <@Dolemite> yeah, I declare #fakenews!
07:58 < aestetix> Ok. I don't know a whole lot about what you're describing
07:58 <@Corydon76> You mean like saying Jefferson shouldn't have raped his female slave?
07:58 < aestetix> Yes. That is exactly what I'm leading towards.
07:58  * aestetix sighs
07:59 < aestetix> Also interesting how we went from Bob Ross to slavery
08:18 <@Dolemite> Oh, lort.   Trump wants Congress to pass the United States Fair And Reciprocal Tariff Act.   FART Act, for short.
08:19 <@Dolemite> I am starting to wonder if a preschool class is actually running The White House.
08:23 <@Dolemite> I keep seeing all these articles about Yelp being used as a battleground for airing political grievances...   I'm sorry, I didn't realize Yelp was still considered useful.   It's been rife with fake reviews since inception.
08:32 < aestetix> hahahahaa
08:33 < aestetix> Dolemite: pre-schoolers are generally capable of civility and know the difference between right and wrong
08:34 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Obviously you haven't spent much time around preschool children
08:34 <@Corydon76> aestetix: so there was nothing wrong with my classmate in kindergarten who wanted to give me a blowjob?
08:34 < aestetix> Corydon76: emphasis on "generally". And also, isn't that called "playing doctor"?
08:35 < aestetix> I *am* willing to say that a think there's a better chance of a preschooler being civil, than Herr Trump
08:35 <@Corydon76> I think "playing doctor" is when you touch.  Sucking on genitals is a different thing entirely
08:35 <@Dolemite> Makes you wonder what that kid was being asked to do at home
08:35 < aestetix> Well I dunno. Maybe your classmate walked in on his mom and the milkman
08:36 < aestetix> or the pumber
08:36 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: yeah, that occurred to me only years later, as an adult
08:36 < aestetix> or maybe they saw it on tv
08:36 < aestetix> and by TV I mean HBO
08:36 < aestetix> or cinemax
08:36 <@Corydon76> aestetix: Keep in mind that this was around 1982, so a lot of those channels didn't exist yet
08:37 < aestetix> I don't know. Maybe he found his dad's playboy stash?
08:37 <@Corydon76> Or his stepfather's
08:37 < aestetix> sure
08:37 < aestetix> I mean we're both agreed that it's kind of creepy
08:37 <@Corydon76> I remember in first grade, his last name changed.
08:38 < aestetix> yeah ok
08:38 < aestetix> sounds like a broken home
08:38 <@Corydon76> Yeah, no idea
08:39 <@Corydon76> I attempted to find him some years back, but his last name could have changed again, for all I know
08:39 < aestetix> You know it's funny
08:39 < aestetix> The internet remembers some things, and totally forgets other things.
08:39 < aestetix> And I've noticed the hit/miss of the internet usually works against you
08:40 <@Corydon76> Stories generally last as long as the publisher of that information.
08:40 <@Corydon76> Bankrupt publishers' archives generally go away pretty quickly
08:40 <@Corydon76> Well, until the Internet Archive
08:41 <@Corydon76> But you still have to know what you're looking for.
08:41 <@Corydon76> Can you 'ego surf' on IA?
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13:21 <@Mirage> https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5n2qi9
13:21 < PigBot> Northern Exposure - S 1 E 1 - Pilot - Video Dailymotion (at www.dailymotion.com) http://tinyurl.com/yatksfkp
13:23 <@Dolemite> Ah, I enjoyed that show
13:23 <@Mirage> It's annoying that they only way to stream this show is by watching flipped recordings.  IMO the music industry needs to chill out on having to relicense all the music in a TV show, movie, etc whenever the broadcast medium changes.
13:24 <@Mirage> WKRP in Cincinati is another one that I really wish that could be released for streaming, but it's the same thing.
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