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07:26 < aestetix> that was fun
07:26 < aestetix> it's annoying when you're asked to delete the account of an employee who leaves the company
07:26 < aestetix> and it turns out they have the same first name as one of the executives
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10:03 < TheDukh> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
10:03 < PigBot> Microsoft confirms it will acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion - The Verge (at www.theverge.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8e4s3n3
10:56 <@Evilpig> when I first heard that it was curious, now it's making me kind of nervous
10:57 < Synx_hm> wtf ubuntu, the 18.04 server guide talks about ifconfig, some other fucking guide talks about NetworkManager, and the official get started page references networkd
10:57 < Synx_hm> and none of them discuss netplan
10:59 < Synx_hm> nor does anything even mention the fucking cloudinit shit
11:08 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, iirc ms has been very invested in git with visual studio and also visual studio code so perhaps they are not a bad owner for github
11:09 <@brimstone> git != github, but that's really github's doing, not M$'s
11:09 < Synx_hm> ya just wanted to relay that note though
11:12 <@ezelkow1> is the internet, everything is a zomg the sky is falling knee jerk reaction
11:12 <@ezelkow1> *its
11:13 <@ezelkow1> either way there is not a damn thing anyone can do, so you either wait and see what they do, and if you agree with it you stay, if not you go elsewhere
11:13 <@ezelkow1> people just love to freak out though
11:21 < Synx_hm> ya
11:21 < Synx_hm> saw some notes on hackernews of people saying ZOMG MOVE TO GITLAB NOW
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11:37 < Synx_hm> in other news why does docker even mention (implied recommendation) to add users to the docker group so you dont have to sudo docker commands
11:38 < Synx_hm> doesn't that mean you could docker exec rm -rf /* after bind mounting / to a container as root
11:38 < Synx_hm> basically removing password security from sudo
12:12 <@brimstone> it's a convenience thing, and yes
12:12 <@brimstone> but you can't mount in / to /, it has to be to /hostfs or something inside the container
12:23 < Synx_hm> :)
14:19 <@Mirage> Moron in India:  How do I verify that Winbind auth is working?
14:19 <@Mirage> Me:  Login to the host with your AD credentials.
14:24 <@Evilpig> and give you my creds.  fuck no!  I'm not falling for that.  give me another way to test
14:26 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: MS has been showing love to open source the last few years this could end up being a non issue kind of thing and they just leave it as is and add in M$ branding
14:26 < Synx_hm> hope so
14:28 <@Corydon76_> It is such fun going into the office and diagnosing an issue in 5 minutes what 2 other people have been struggling with for weeks.
14:29 <@Corydon76_> Root cause:  Gigabit Ethernet doesn't work so well over Cat 5 cable
14:29 <@Corydon76_> And guess what the new printers wanted to negotiate.
14:30 <@Mirage> Arcnet 4mb?
14:30 <@Corydon76_> Manually set the link speed down to 100mbit Full, and everything works fine.
14:50 <@Evilpig> cat5 does gig just fine as long as you terminated it correctly
14:50 <@Evilpig> well... cat5e for sure. 
14:52 <@Mirage> My concern would be where in the hell they even found a 'cat5' cable vs cat5e or cat6
14:55 <@Evilpig> I have a spool of cat5e sitting in my closet
14:56 <@Mirage> Evilpig:  !cat5e....cat5
14:56 <@Mirage> hell, i don't eve think you can get cat3 anymore..
14:57 <@Mirage> that would actually be a fun prank to pull on someone. similar to back in the day putting the wrong resistor on a thinnet terminator, etc
14:59 <@Evilpig> I bet you can
14:59 <@Evilpig> anywhere that does phone supplies
15:00 <@Evilpig> cat3 can still be used for big telco switches like at vandy
15:00 <@Evilpig> not sure why you would, but I bet you could
15:00 <@Mirage> Evilpig: when I tried to buy phone line (cat3) about a month ago I was told they don't carry it anymore and everyone is using cat5e now
15:01 <@Mirage> Although that wasn't at Graybar which might still have it.   Too far to drive to the nearest one to me for it.
15:25 <@Corydon76_> Cat 5 is the original plant for the office.  At best, it's 10 years old.
15:26 <@Corydon76_> We do have some Cat 6 drops which were run a year ago.
15:26 <@Corydon76_> The Cat 5 is probably closer to 15 years old
15:26 <@Corydon76_> And it's definitely Cat 5, not Cat 5E.
15:28 <@Corydon76_> Worse, in some cases, we have splitters on either end of a Cat 5 run, so that a single run could be used for 2 different connections.  Gigabit really doesn't like it when only 2 pairs respond.
15:53 <@Evilpig> that isn't so much only two pair responding as crosstalk from the other two pair fuckign with you
15:58 <@Corydon76_> Twisted pairs should take care of any crosstalk, I think.
15:59 <@Corydon76_> But negotiation for Gigabit fails if all 4 pair aren't available
16:00 <@Corydon76_> Especially with the lower amount of copper in Cat 5.
16:00 <@shapr> I think that's a good name for a kitty
16:00 <@shapr> I'm still pissed off that gigabit doesn't support RSSI
16:00 <@Corydon76_> shapr: Copper?
16:00 <@shapr> nah, Cat5
16:01 <@Corydon76_> Twin kitties, Aluminum and Aluminium?
16:02 <@shapr> punny
16:02 <@shapr> but I think I'll name this kitty either Cat5 or Cat5e
16:02 <@shapr> probably Cat5e, but Cat5 for short
16:05 <@Corydon76_> Maybe you should give him a shielded jacket and call him Cat7.
16:11 <@shapr> oooh
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20:04 <@brimstone> shape: or put a plastic spine down the middle and call it Cat6
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