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01:47 < aestetix> Evilpig_: the lesson that teaches is that you should never be honest
01:48 < aestetix> Which has the net effect that employees who are unhappy leave and go to other jobs, instead of trying to fix issues they see
01:48 < aestetix> of course, the fact that bringing up issues can result in you getting fired...
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06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:30 <@Dolemite> Man, going on 4 years that this woman in NetOps has been here and STILL can't remember that she needs to provide details in her computer room requests.   You know, like NAMES and MODEL NUMBERS of what the hell she wants us to install.
06:57  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:32 < aestetix> the only thing worse than doing surprise tech support for someone nontechnical
08:32 < aestetix> is when halfway through, they get a phone call, and decide to take it
08:32 < aestetix> and spend the next minutes on the phone ignoring you, while you're sitting there stuck
08:33 <@Corydon76> No, the only thing worse is not getting paid for it.
08:33 < aestetix> ok that's fair
08:33 <@Corydon76> If they're paying for your time, you can sit patiently, because you're getting paid whether or not they're making progress.
08:35 <@Corydon76> That's my perspective, anyway.  If you're paying $150/hr for my time, I can sit perfectly patiently while a customer ignores me.
08:36 <@Corydon76> Now, if the tech support is free and voluntary, I can voluntarily stand up and walk out.
09:36 < aestetix> https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/the-115th-congress-is-among-the-oldest-in-history/175/
09:36 < PigBot> The 115th Congress is among the oldest in history (at www.quorum.us) http://tinyurl.com/ydfpswyh
09:36 < aestetix> so one question I have here
09:36 < aestetix> is this because of term limits, or because nobody younger is running?
09:36 < aestetix> I'd be interested the see the average ages of candidates for office
09:37 <@brimstone> and the average ages of voters
09:37 < aestetix> Maybe Dolemite can make that one of his platforms
09:37 < aestetix> that too
09:37 < aestetix> brimstone: but tbqh I think candidates ages is important
09:37 < aestetix> because if the only people running for office are over 60, then of course the average age will be over 60
09:40 <@brimstone> yeah, but i don't look at the ballet and think "Man, sure would be nice if some of these were younger than 50"
09:49 <@Dolemite> A lot of it has to do with finance
09:49 <@Dolemite> To successfully campaign, you not only need enough money to run the campaign, but you need to be well enough off that you can check out of your day job for 6-12 months while you are on the campaign trail
09:50 <@Dolemite> So real people, with family ties and roots in the community, don't have that luxury and can't run.   It's an illusion of democracy.
10:01 < aestetix> But if that were true then well off trust fund kids would be running
10:03 < aestetix> Dolemite: so if we vote for you, will you address the campaign finance reform problem?
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10:14 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Well, as currently being played out, those trust fund kids are starting to be looked at under a microsope and don't like all the skeletons popping out of their closets.
10:15 <@Dolemite> And no, voting for me will do no damn good, because I wouldn't show up to be sworn in
10:19 < aestetix> That makes you the ideal candidate.
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10:53 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to go home and throw some stuff in a bag for GeekNIC
10:53 <@Dolemite> Later, kiddos
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13:50 < aestetix> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/05/oakland-new-gold-standard-community-control-police-surveillance
13:50 < PigBot> Oakland: The New Gold Standard in Community Control of Police Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org) http://tinyurl.com/ychvntpq
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14:57 <@ezelkow1> is there a certain state I can kick back to that will basically start a whole transaction over?
14:58 <@ezelkow1> I attempted to do in the CACHE_EVENT_OPEN_WRITE_FAILED to set it to CACHE_WL_READ_RETRY, then in CACHE_WL_READ_RETRY in Httptransact I did a TRANSACT_RETURN(SM_ACTION_CACHE_LOOKUP), but that seemed to just throw it into this lookup->write fail, loop
14:59 <@ezelkow1> when I was hoping that going back to lookup state would initiate another read
15:20 <@ezelkow1> shit
15:21 <@ezelkow1> completely wrong channel, fuckin irc
15:33 < Evilpig_> okay dag.  lol
15:33 <@ezelkow1> hah
15:33  * ezelkow1 hangs head in shame
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16:24 < dasunt> ezelkow1: CACHE_FUCKING_WORK_DAMNIT is the flag you want.
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16:49 <@eryc> ezelkow1: #!/bin/env python is the flag you want
17:51 <@ezelkow1> dear lord no
19:00 <@_NSAKEY> rm -rf --no-preserve-root / is the flag you really want
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