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06:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:29  * Dolemite hugs aestetix for just a little bit too long for comfort
06:40  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:04 < aestetix> wow K`Tetch_ didn't mean to hit a nerve
07:04 < aestetix> I've just been told by more than one journalist that often the editor writes the headline, not them
07:04 < aestetix> especially for stringers
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08:45 < K`Tetch_> you just have a tendency to make sweeping pronouncements as fact
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10:22 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: ok, maybe preface all those statements with "it seems that"
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10:25 < dasunt> I'm trying to figure out how to store more shit in my garage.
10:25 < dasunt> This probably is the wrong problem to solve.
10:25 <@rhia> dasunt, yup
10:27 < dasunt> I'm just thinking that if I could store a second canoe in there...
10:28 < aestetix> can you hang it from the ceiling?
10:28 < dasunt> That's what I did for the first canoe.  :)
10:29 <@rhia> o r   maybe there's just too much stuff <g>
10:30 <@Dolemite> blasphemy!
10:30 <@Dolemite> There's only "too much of other people's stuff"
10:30 <@rhia> or at least anti-American - oh, yeah,
10:30 <@rhia> same difference anymore
10:31 < aestetix> so uh at this point
10:31 < aestetix> do you have a shed?
10:31 < aestetix> because I might recommend you build one
10:32 < dasunt> No shed.  Was thinking that.
10:33 < dasunt> I was also thinknig I may have a hording problem.
10:33 < aestetix> why do you need two canoes?
10:33 < dasunt> It's not hording if it's useful, right?
10:33 < dasunt> aestetix: Tandem canoe, and a solo canoe.
10:33 <@rhia> dasunt, only if it's actively used
10:33 < aestetix> yeah I mean
10:34 < aestetix> do you canoe so much that you actively use *both* all the time?
10:34 < dasunt> Right now, we do use the tandem a lot.  Wouldn't mind building a solo though.
10:34 < aestetix> Are the rental canoes that bad?
10:35 < dasunt> They get spendy.
10:35 < dasunt> I'll actually be renting a three seater for May, and that will run me around $250 for five days.
10:36 < xray> do that 10 times and you could build a shed for the same price
10:36 < aestetix> well if you build a shed, you can house both the solo canoe and the three seater that you'll build after
10:36 <@rhia> how much will it cost to build a shed to hold the canoes plus all the other stuff that keeps you from storing them in the garage?
10:36 < xray> or get a shipping container
10:36 < aestetix> xray: that might be kind of an eyesore though
10:37 < xray> they are cheaper than building a shed of comparable size
10:37 < dasunt> LOL.  I hope not to have to rent a three seater too often.
10:37 < aestetix> unless it's in the back yard
10:37 <@rhia> aestetix, paint!
10:37 < xray> yes if left raw.
10:38 < xray> But you can decorate them with wood fencing for cheap and then they look like a regular shed.
10:38 < xray> I'm considering doing this which is why I know about it
10:38 < aestetix> so why not just do that
10:38 < aestetix> it's easier than building a shed
10:38 < xray> They are much more rugged, take less maintenance and are way more secure
10:39 < xray> You need to be able to get the delivery truck in to the site
10:39 < dasunt> Can you do it with a crane?
10:40 < xray> don't forget to check your local municipal codes
10:40 < xray> yes they can use a crane
10:40 < xray> but then it gets way more expensive
10:40 < dasunt> Huh.
10:41 < xray> containers come in two common sizes
10:41 < xray> cranes cost a lot per hour
10:41 < xray> hundreds of dollars
10:41 < xray> depending on how far a throw you need you may need a really large crane
10:42 < xray> like sitting in the front yard an lowering the container into the back yard over the house
10:42 < aestetix> what about putting wheels onto the container?
10:42 < xray> delivery is usually free if they can just roll it off the truck
10:42 < xray> if you need a crane you have to pay for it
10:43 < xray> They can put wheels on a container, it's called an 18 wheel truck
10:44 < xray> containers come in two standard sizzes
10:44 < xray> full length (40 feet) and half length (20 ft)
10:44 < xray> You can buy them used in different states of repari
10:45 < xray> repair
10:45 < xray> or get they new
10:45 < xray> The more "used" the cheaper they are
10:45 < xray> but they may require some scaling and painting
10:45 < xray> they are also weather proof
10:47 <@Corydon76> There was a neat video where somebody buried one in their backyard to create an effective emergency shelter
10:48 < xray> That's a great idea
10:48 <@Corydon76> Pouring concrete around it would also make it a nuclear fallout shelter.
10:49 <@Corydon76> Backfill with soil and replant grass atop.  Entrance is hidden in a shed.
10:50 <@Evilpig> that was colin furth, iirc
10:50 <@Evilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO25JYAaJC0
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10:51 < PigBot> Backyard UNDERGROUND Apocalyptic BUNKER (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/paxumn
10:53 < dasunt> Huh.
10:54 < dasunt> That would be nice storage.  :)
10:57 <@Corydon76> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo
10:57 <@Corydon76> This one went so far as to install a sump pump
10:57 < PigBot> Shipping Container As An Underground Shelter (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/d56drfv
11:31 < dasunt> Sump pump is probably a good idea.
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12:28 < TheDukh_> so, a company I applied for is asking me to solve a puzzle, find an email address hidden in the binary
12:28 <@Dagmar> Easy mode
12:29 <@Dagmar> I would take that sort of problem over dealing with clueless HR people any day of the week
12:31 < TheDukh_> this is true, however
12:31 < TheDukh_> there was only 1 email address in there
12:31 < TheDukh_> and it was the email address that they said in the example wasn't the right one.
12:33 <@Corydon76> TheDukh_: can you reverse the string to come up with another?
12:34 <@Corydon76> Also, check to see if the binary is perhaps an image format
12:35 <@Corydon76> Then run through a simple single character XOR over the data in the binary.
12:35 <@Dagmar> The type of job you are applying for _probably_ has something to do with the techniques you should be using
12:35 <@Dagmar> If the job entails reverse-engineering malware, I'm pretty sure a strings search isn't going to cut it
12:36 < TheDukh_> yeah
12:36 < TheDukh_> they said that they would work with people who have potential to train them up
12:36 < TheDukh_> which sounds a bit skeptical
12:38 < TheDukh_> On this page you will find two binaries. Both are the same, just compiled for a different ELF Linux target. Pick the one that is the easiest for you to work with. We have hidden an email address in the binary. The email keld@dkuug.dk is embedded into the binary because of how  we compiled it. This is not the answer to the puzzle. Find the correct email  address and then send us the answer to these questions about you to
12:38 < TheDukh_> that secret email address:
12:38 < TheDukh_> the email listed was in a sans paper from mid 2000's
12:38 <@Dagmar> RUn the fucker under strace in a VM then
12:39 <@Dagmar> IN A VM.
12:39 <@Corydon76> It's possible one of the files contains an image or something like that.
12:39 <@Corydon76> But I agree with Dagmar:  run it in a VM
12:39 <@Dagmar> "compiled for a different ELF Linux target"
12:40 <@Corydon76> 32-bit vs 64-bit ?
12:40 <@Dagmar> It's unlikely they'd bother embedding an _image_ of an email address considering that bit
12:40 <@Dagmar> Yes
12:40 <@Dagmar> It's a near certainty the two targets are either 64- and 32- bit or (slim possibility) x86 vs ARM
12:40 <@Corydon76> You're thinking they programatically created a string combination?
12:41 <@Dagmar> Probably
12:41 <@Dagmar> Obvs they're looking for someone capable of doing more than run strings on a binary
12:41 <@Dagmar> Someone that's capable of actually looking inside a binary as it runs to understand what it does
12:41 <@Dagmar> ...or if it's very, very small, someone who knows their way around a disassembler
12:42 <@Corydon76> Might want to run it under gdb, which gives you a good way of examining memory and stepping through code
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14:37 < TheDukh> day drinking frowned upon?
14:57 <@Corydon76> TheDukh: Depends upon what, how much, and your tolerance level
14:57 <@Corydon76> Also, duties
14:58 <@Corydon76> I couldn't drink, because I need to be ready, at a moment's notice to drive to the office
14:58 <@Corydon76> Even if I'm not impaired, the state troopers look down upon people who drink and drive
14:59 <@Corydon76> Some workplaces are fine with it, as long as you still get your work done
15:08 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon76: Reminds me of my previous employer. A 2 drink per shift limit was baked into the company policy.
15:09 <@Corydon76> My company would probably have a policy against it, if only for the reason that about half the company staff works in the warehouse, dealing with expensive shit and driving forklifts.
15:10 <@Corydon76> And I'm sure insurance doesn't pay out if damage is done while an employee was drunk with the company's blessing
15:10 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, probably not.
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15:17 <@Corydon76> 2.5 hours left before they rotate the selection
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