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06:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:10  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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10:31 < oddball> Annnnnd Mayor Barry just plead guilty to felony theft.
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10:45 <@Corydon76> oddball: ouch
10:52 < oddball> But I'm sure that there's still folks that will argue that she did nothing wrong.
10:58 <@Evilpig> I want to see where she was directly responsible for the $11k that she supposedly stole via overtime payouts
10:59 <@Evilpig> I didn't think she was the person making his schedule, that should fall back on him alone
10:59 <@Evilpig> she may have been complicit in knowing that he was giving himself the overtime but surely not to that scale
11:00 < oddball> Well, she had his payroll moved from the police dept. to her office.
11:00 < oddball> And then there's those "business" trips that she and he took by themselves on the city's dime.
11:01 <@Evilpig> the payroll was moved? I saw that the travel expenses were moved
11:01 <@Corydon76> I'm sure there was back and forth negotiation on that.  Surely she wasn't responsible for the time that he spent in a legitimate role as bodyguard, just the times that she was having the affair with him.
11:01 < oddball> Yep.  Payroll was also moved.
11:02 < oddball> Yeah.  There was the issue that he was getting more overtime than the next 4 guys on the detail *combined*.
11:02 <@Corydon76> The settlement means the city saves on litigation costs
11:02 <@Evilpig> but he was setting the schedule
11:03 <@Evilpig> she wasn't setting who was on her detail, that was on him.  so if anything that should be charges on him for wasting tax payer money
11:03 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: And don't forget that he was making more than anyone in metro PD except for the police chief.
11:04 <@Evilpig> https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/02/12/mayor-megan-barry-bodyguard-travel-expenses-affair/326183002/
11:04 < PigBot> Megan Barry: After affair began, Nashville mayor's staff began approving travel expenses (at www.tennessean.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9mnehr7
11:04 <@Corydon76> _NSAKEY: was that already the case, though, before his payroll was moved?
11:04 <@Evilpig> that right there says clearly that it was unusual for the mayors office to pick up the travel expense, but I see that as being appropriate too
11:04 <@Corydon76> i.e. for the last mayor, who he also provided security services for?
11:05 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon76: From what I remember reading, he only started making bank once he started fucking Megan Barry.
11:05 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: that could be because of the OT that he was giving himself
11:05 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: Pretty much.
11:05 <@_NSAKEY> They're both dirty, and should both hang.
11:05 <@_NSAKEY> Simple as that.
11:05 < oddball> Evilpig: There is that argument, and I can follow you, but when the number of trips suddenly jumps shortly after the switch?  That shows that something fishy was going on.
11:06 <@Evilpig> that isn't as much a case of her imbezeling because she had no say over his hours
11:06 <@_NSAKEY> Doesn't matter what good they did besides all of this. Give them both to the fire.
11:06 <@Evilpig> find a record of the trips and show me the fish
11:06 <@Corydon76> _NSAKEY: if they're out of power, and we negotiated a settlement that ends the litigation costs for the city, that's a win.
11:07 <@Corydon76> I understand going after them, but ultimately, you need to consider the costs to the taxpayers
11:07 <@Evilpig> I think she was doing good for the city and we're going to be at a loss because of it.
11:07 <@_NSAKEY> The fact that she's plead guilty to a felony is lol as hell. I'm sure she'll do some chickenshit amount of community service, and pay the money back, and that'll be it.
11:07 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: David Briley takes over in the meantime, before a special election, and he's just as good for the city
11:08 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon76: That's a fair argument, but I'm also of the opinion that the feds didn't go far enough in giving Rutherford county the political corruption enema it so richly deserves.
11:08 < oddball> I'll admit that I was surprised that she actually plead guilty to a felony.  I was guessing that she would either 1. resign in disgrace, or 2. lose the next election badly.
11:08 <@Corydon76> And there's a good chance that Briley wins the special election in November
11:09 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: Yeah, that's a bit of a surprise. It's always shocking when a politician in a scandal doesn't fight to the bitter end.
11:10 < oddball> Oh, honestly, I figured that she was probably guilty of embezzlement.  Definitely guilty of misappropriation of government funds, but the felony theft charge was surprising.
11:10 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: I have to wonder what other charges were stacked on her, to make her take that plea deal.
11:11 <@_NSAKEY> Or maybe they're sparing her boyfriend if she falls on the sword on this one.
11:11 < oddball> There is that.
11:11 <@Corydon76> I was thinking mainly that it brings a swift end to the scandal.
11:12 <@Corydon76> Along with the likely mounting legal costs
11:12 < oddball> There is that.
11:12 <@_NSAKEY> Corydon76: That's probably just a side-effect, but then again, I could be too cynical.
11:12 <@Corydon76> And it probably also means that any additionally embarassing material will no longer be leaked to the press
11:13 <@Corydon76> So Megan Barry can still show her face around town, instead of essentially being forced to move to escape the fallout.
11:14 < oddball> And that's pretty much reflected on the "punishment."  She's getting 3 years probation, and has to pay back the city the $11k they're hitting her with.  They probably could have racked up a *lot* more than that.
11:14 <@Corydon76> Once the entire town has seen her hooha, that's rather difficult
11:16 <@Evilpig> you keep saying repay $11k,  what is that 11k for?
11:16 <@Evilpig> that isn't his overtime wages
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11:16 < oddball> No, it's not.  The overtime wages were on order of magnitude higher.  The article doesn't say, but I'm guessing that they discovered more when they started digging.
11:17 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I think the $11K is the reimbursed travel expenses that shouldn't have been
11:17 <@Corydon76> It's a negotiated amount.  I don't think we'll ever see a breakdown of what all it encompasses.  It'll just go back to the general fund.
11:17 < oddball> right
11:18 < oddball> Of course, there's also the possiblity that Funk told her "so... this is what we found so far.  We can keep digging, or you can go ahead and face the music, and we'll be done with it."
11:19 < oddball> And.... shit.  Didn't realize wht time it is.  Gotta go.
11:19 <@Evilpig> yeah i'm about to run to lunch myself
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16:43 < TheDukh> https://betanews.com/2018/03/05/kali-linux-windows/
16:43 < PigBot>   Kali Linux for Windows 10 now available in Microsoft Store (at betanews.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycfauyyz
17:25 <@opticron> debian, too
17:35 < aestetix> wait
17:35 < aestetix> that doesn't make sense
17:35 < aestetix> isn't kali linux something you boot into
17:35 < aestetix> like a security distro?
17:45 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Kali is essentially debian testing with a custom kernel and up-to-date hacking tools.
17:46 <@_NSAKEY> A friend installed the WSL version of Kali and it's basically just debian testing, without the hacking tools.
17:46 <@_NSAKEY> I'm sure they're installable, but they're not there out of the box.
17:47 <@_NSAKEY> My first thought was that it would probably make a good, quick environment for building Kali images a little more quickly.
18:12 < aestetix> It occurs to me what an awful business journalism has become.
18:13 < aestetix> Most of the time nowadays, you write a story, but your editor determines the headline.
18:13 < aestetix> So what happens is that a headline gets tweeted around, and nobody reads the story, but they read the headline and then they see who wrote the story, and assume they also wrote the headline
18:14 < aestetix> So basically, being a journalist has turned into taking the heat when an editor puts a clickbait headline into a story nobody reads, but the headline pisses everyone on twitter off
18:17 < K`Tetch_> i always have input on my headlines
18:17 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: but is that true for everyone?
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18:30 < K`Tetch_> as true as your statement
18:31 < K`Tetch_> or is it just everyone else's that has to be, and you can rant unconcerned by that
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