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06:19 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:26  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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09:20 < dfused> *yawn*
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10:09 <@Mirage> ugh..what a wonderfully scummy day out today.
10:51 <@Corydon76> If you think it's bad here, try Chicago
10:53 <@Corydon76> https://www.weather.gov/lmrfc/obsfcst_mississippi_riverwatch
10:53 < PigBot> Riverwatch: Mississippi River Basin Forecasts (at www.weather.gov) http://tinyurl.com/yduu2lc
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13:59 <@Mirage> Corydon76: http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USTX1060
14:08 <@Corydon76> Mirage: that looks like fun... However, the Chicago area has major flooding... and then the flooding froze overnight.
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14:11 <@Mirage> I really hate this fucking POS project manager.   First meeting last Fri on a project which had been on hold since Sept 2017 and was dependent on a different project.   In the meeting it was stated that the 'timeline has been moved up and that the "core" stuff needs to be done and ready for implementation testing by 2/26'.
14:12 <@Mirage> In that same meeting and the second meeting, which was yesterday, I asked for the list of servers that they had built for it so that I could start work.
14:12 < dfused> well....then timeline advancement should be entered as a Risk and PM should understand the risk
14:13 <@Mirage> Escalated to my manager about it yesterday afternoon and he pushed on the Project Manager who responded..."I'll be passing along that information in the 'onboarding' meeting this Fri".
14:13 < dfused> haha
14:13 < dfused> thats awful
14:14 <@Mirage> PM should be dragged into the street, tarred, feathered, and locked up in the stocks for a week beside a 55g drum of "vaseline"
14:14 < dfused>  ... no floggin?
14:23 <@Mirage> The group he works for does solely solution implementation and then hands off whatever they built to other groups, like mine, for steady-state support.  Any custom work required is farmed out to OEM product vendor consultants who architect/design the solutions for them to implement.
14:25 <@Mirage> They are the worst bunch of assholes to work with and are _not_ team players.  Even though we all work for the same company they pretty much treat us as if we were a competing vendor trying to steal all their trade secrets.
14:31 <@_NSAKEY> Mirage: Are these people Russian, by any chance?
14:32 <@_NSAKEY> At my last job, we had some Russians on another team who treated us like we were trying to replace them.
14:33 <@Mirage> Legacy EMC Managed Services guys.   They had such a bad reputation with customers at one point that the company actually renamed the group.
14:34 <@_NSAKEY> Sounds like they deserve to be disbanded, and they all know it.
14:39 < dfused> nsa working with the russian.... whoda thunk it.   lol
15:44 <@dasunt> Damn it.  Switched over to nicotine gum during the day to try to wean myself from smoking.  It's not as effective as I'd like.
15:52 < TheDukh> as much of a stereotype as it gets, vaping helped me quit.
15:53 < dfused> da vaping helps
15:57 < TheDukh> so, got a question for you all.
15:58 <@Evilpig> 42
15:59 < TheDukh> i'm debating between studying to sit for the CISSP or CISA, and I can't decide which to go for. I know the CISSP is better over-all, however, CISA would get a better foothold into doing audit and compliance somewhere.  any suggestions?
16:03 < dfused> cisa is a bit focused while CISSP is more well recognized amongst recruiters n stuff. both are used for tier III on dod 8570 ,.... so if you're wanting a blanket type cert which opens doors, I'd go cissp.  cisa is good for more specialized jobs (even tho technically cissp peeps are often looked at for audit type jobs as well)
16:08 < TheDukh> blanket type is a good way to describe it
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18:55 <@brimstone> TheDukh: go OSCP
18:55 <@brimstone> much more fun than CISSP
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20:24 < TheDukh> brimstone:  true, however, I don't do as much pen testing as I should, was few and far between previously.
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