--- Log opened Tue Feb 06 00:00:29 2018
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06:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:32  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:14 <@Evilpig> brimstone: could be a projector
07:28 <@brimstone> don't all projectors auto keystone these days?
07:34 <@Dolemite> Not the 10 year old ones I get off of eBay
07:34 <@Dolemite> oh, wait, you mean modern :)
07:58 <@Corydon76> Nor do the cheap Chinese ones
07:58 <@Corydon76> I have one I use for movies, and the manual keystone doesn't even go as far as it needs to
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08:53 <@dasunt> aestetix: Re:  That Edina public school article from awhile back.  That's Edina.  A snobby suburb.  ;)
09:07 < aestetix> dasunt: well Dagmar's source validation already discredited the article sufficiently for me
09:18 < ^020d> Keystoning heh heh...  reminds me of mode lines and burning out monitors while trying to get X11 working
09:22 <@dasunt> aestetix: Did not see that.  Link?
09:24 <@Dagmar> What link?
09:24 <@Dagmar> I literally could find no other sources showing the events claimed were actually transpiring
09:25 <@Dagmar> Not even on Facebook
09:25 <@dasunt> Ah, thanks.
09:28 < aestetix> I mean for me, if I get an article like that in an outlet, I treat the whole outlet with skepticism
09:28 < aestetix> maybe places don't care about that anymore though. they just want clicks
09:33 <@dasunt> Most places don't.
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10:12 <@dasunt> So, will Elon Musk blow up his car today or fling it into deep space?
10:12 < dfused> either way, it'll be cool to watch
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10:13 <@dasunt> Yep.  What's the best site online?
10:14 < dfused> http://www.spacex.com/webcast
10:14 < PigBot> Falcon Heavy Test Flight | SpaceX (at www.spacex.com) http://tinyurl.com/8ekfy9z
10:15 <@dasunt> Thanks!
10:15 < dfused> yup
10:17 <@Evilpig> I think these should be done now.  Couldn't snarf url: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:492: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure.
10:17 <@Evilpig> https://www.edinazephyrus.com/
10:18 < PigBot> Zephyrus – The official student news site of Edina High School. (at www.edinazephyrus.com) http://tinyurl.com/yan8a4q6
10:38 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: so it shouldn't have a problem with FortTroff.com (nsfw) anymore?
10:41 <@Evilpig> shouldn't
10:42 <@dasunt> I would love if this damn financial software tracking app wouldn't duplicate my main savings account (AKA my "oh crap" account).
11:14 <@Catonic> Yes, I still have a 21" Sony/Sun Trinitron, because it has always worked, and they are always thrown away working... unlike most of the LCDs I've come into contact with, where they get discarded because the digital side quits working or the inverter powering the backlight dies.
11:15 <@Catonic> It was fine until it spent about six months powered off... now I have keystoning and I haven't located an adjustment to correct it. The entire range of adjustment in the montior's control panel won't fix it.
12:52 < xray>  if it has as crt then the keystone adjustment is most likely mechanical adjustments to the crt yoke
12:54 < xray> If I recall correctly it is related to the linearity adjustment
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13:25 <@Evilpig> last time I swear.  then i'm done dicking with this
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13:27 <@Evilpig> was adding some functions to help out with opendcim when we paste URLs to dummies that ask questions over in there
13:27 <@Evilpig> https://opendcim.org/demo/cabnavigator.php?cabinetid=1
13:27 < PigBot> AD01 :: DC1 (at opendcim.org login/password dcim/dcim) http://tinyurl.com/y96gtxg
13:31 <@Corydon76> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gy8bxy/t-mobile-text-warning-phone-hijacking-number-port-out-scam
13:31 < PigBot> T-Mobile Is Sending a Mass Text Warning of ‘Industry-Wide’ Phone Hijacking Scam - Motherboard (at motherboard.vice.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8pcayuy
13:37 <@Dagmar> Sheesh
13:37 <@Dagmar> I registered with upwork and the first job offer that comes in is clearly crime
13:38 <@Dagmar> Someone wanted to pay $20 for a python tool to feed phone numbers into a website that checks to see if someone's eligible for a class action against Dish Network
13:38 <@Dagmar> ...because there's totally legit business opportunities there.
13:38 <@Dagmar> Rejected.  Reason: Other.  Reason specified: "This is clearly crime."
13:39 <@Dagmar> Now blocking all future job offers from said client
13:39 <@Corydon76> Only $20 for such a script?
13:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah you'd think they could slice off a bit more than that
13:39 <@Corydon76> That doesn't even come close to my base billing rate
13:39 <@Dagmar> It's probably someone simply looking to generate phone number lists of Dish Network customers
13:42 <@Corydon76> Kind of amusing to hear the guy who I subcontract with often answering the phone.  He pretends he's his own secretary, to keep the scammers and freeloaders away
13:43 <@Corydon76> $185 is his base rate
13:48 <@Evilpig> interesting .  Just got a call from a 270 number that said he was just calling back me because he had a missed call
13:48 <@Evilpig> I wonder if a robo-dialer is spoofing using my number
13:49 <@Evilpig> I've made no calls today. my phone has been sitting silent on my desk all day
13:49 <@Corydon76> Wouldn't be surprised
13:49 <@Corydon76> I had a nonexistent number try to call me yesterday and today
13:51 <@Evilpig> I get those routinely.  just weird having someone call me back
13:51 <@opticron> Evilpig, they're spoofing area codes and first 3, so they're bound to be using actual peoples' numbers
13:52 <@Evilpig> if only the fcc weren't fucking useless
14:03 <@Corydon76> In this case, it's the FTC, and yes, they're underfunded and useless
14:03 <@Corydon76> They also lack the statutory power to impose fines that would be large enough to make these scammers stop
14:04 <@Corydon76> And the criminal prosecuting authority to put recalcitrant scammers behind bars.
14:11 <@Dagmar> That's because largely it's only fines
14:11 <@Dagmar> ...which they pay.  Gladly.  Because they still make a profit even if they *do* manage to get fined
14:11 <@Dagmar> We should start pillories back up
14:13 < K`Tetch> nope, phone scams are FCC territory mainly. including caller ID spoofing
14:14 < K`Tetch> 9my daughter's had 2 of those 'you called me earlier' calls today alone
14:14 < K`Tetch> and me, I usually put on a heavy hispanic accent when I answer the phone
14:28 <@Corydon76> donotcall.gov is run by the FTC, and it's the DNC list that the scammers are largely in violation of.
14:29 <@Corydon76> While the FCC technically has jurisdiction, in practice, it's the FTC which governs call scams.
14:30 <@Corydon76> You normally don't see the FCC involved, unless one of the co-conspirators is a phone company.
14:32 <@Corydon76> And as usual with government enforcement, it comes down to the fact that both have limited budgets, so they pick and choose enforcement actions.
14:38 < K`Tetch> nope. a DNC list violation requires the company to be signed up, and have not made a good faith effort to call someone on the list.
14:38 < K`Tetch> Truth in Caller ID act makes it a crime to falsify your caller ID
14:39 < K`Tetch> 10k per violation
14:39 < K`Tetch> been law since december 22 2010
14:40 <@Corydon76> When's the last time the FCC took an enforcement action on that basis?
14:40 <@Dagmar> They do a couple of times a year, but it doesn't much matter
14:40 <@Dagmar> They can't fine fly-by-night companies hard enough
14:40 < K`Tetch> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-120-million-fine-massive-caller-id-spoofing-operation
14:40 <@Dagmar> If/when they do, the company just folds and springs back up with a different incorporation
14:40 <@Evilpig> K`Tetch: but you have to catch those fuckers to get them the fine
14:40 < PigBot> FCC Proposes $120 Million Fine of Massive Caller ID Spoofing Operation | Federal Communications Commission (at www.fcc.gov) http://tinyurl.com/ycyrh95o
14:40 <@Corydon76> And even if they did, it's the company getting fined, so the principal shuts down that one, starts up a new one, and keeps going.
14:41 < K`Tetch> for which the fcc is the org with the ability to do it
14:41 <@shapr> yay, falcon heavy live feed!! w000
14:41 < K`Tetch> the ftc is purely reactive, they can only investigate a specific claim that's been put to them
14:41 <@Dagmar> There was a large and very detailed article about how badly the 'fines only' approach is working all over my G+ feed last week
14:41 <@Dagmar> This is why we need to bring the pillory back
14:42 < K`Tetch> oh, i know it's bad, but due tot he limits of how the ftc can operate, the fcc's the one that really is the lead in investigating
14:42 < K`Tetch> hmm, the feed has two cameras you acn switch, never noticed that before
14:42 <@Corydon76> It's too bad BATFE gets all over the case when there's a bombing.  A couple of well-placed explosives could shut down most of the phone scams in this country.
14:46 <@Corydon76> And for the FBI bot listening, I just need to add that I am not advocating or condoning violence.
15:01 <@Evilpig> but you are okay with cyber squatters and robo-dialing assholes spontaneously combusting
15:05 <@Dagmar> Well, that's just good clean fun
15:07 < K`Tetch> spontanious human combustion, sure, likewise officers that commit crimes under colour of authority
15:07 < K`Tetch> and politicians that perpetuate electoral fraud
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15:51 <@dasunt> I'm wondering what would happen if instead of funding another "New Frontiers" mission (e.g. New Horizon), NASA accepted proposals from private contractors for probes and mission destinations.
16:07 < K`Tetch> interplanetary fracking
16:43 <@dasunt> LOL.
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