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06:36 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:45  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:57  * Dolemite squirts out some Purell for his hands
06:57 <@Dolemite> It's still flu season, you mad man!
08:12 < xray> LoL
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08:33 <@Dagmar> Heh
08:33 <@Dagmar> Google has notified me there are security problems wiht my account
08:33 <@Corydon76> And if the flu isn't bad enough, some people are also getting gastroenteritis at the same time.
08:33 <@Dagmar> One of them is that "Google Cloud Development" has access to Google Cloud Platform
08:34 <@Dagmar> Somehow they've flagged thesmelves as an unverified developer
08:34 <@Dagmar> ...but it shows they care enough to actually consider these things.
09:12 <@Dolemite> Must...   stop...  looking at ebay...
09:12 < dfused> nope nope nope
09:13 < dfused> but Dolemite....you NEED that thing
09:13 <@Dolemite> Well, YEAH
09:13 <@Dolemite> but my wallet is hurting
09:13 <@Dolemite> But hey, I picked up 3 more Star Wars Hallmark Ornaments :)
09:13 < dfused> stop spending so much on kids...
09:14 < dfused> just cause their pants are three inches off their ankles... they'll be FINE
09:14 <@Dolemite> My wife manages to spend it on them before I get a chance
09:16  * dfused hands Dolemite the axe.
09:16 < dfused> You know what you have to do......
09:24 < dfused> Dolemite: you still have those Dell servers?
09:25 <@Dolemite> ye
09:25 <@Dolemite> yep
09:25 <@Dolemite> but right now, I'm off to a meeting :)
09:26 < dfused> Cool, do you know if the RAID stays in tact if the controller fails?
09:26 < dfused> oh crap... ok...have "fun"
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10:55 < xray> If it is a PERC controller then maybe
10:56 < xray> You might be able to import it as foreign
10:56 < xray> but I suggest verifying that
10:56 < dfused> hrm... ok.  I'm using it as a backup system witha RAID 10.  So I guess I'll see about making backups of the backups juuuust in case.
11:03 < xray> What is your host operating system
11:03 < dfused> windows
11:03 < xray> OK
11:04 < xray> Windows doesn't do RAID well so you need a hardware controller.
11:04 < dfused> I was going to usef freenas... but it kept cause the machine to reboot a few times a day -shrug-
11:04 < xray> I use a PERC 6 for RAID and also do backups
11:05 < xray> I have seen a lot of articles saying Dell servers do not make good FreeNAS boxes
11:05 < xray> mostly due to the RAID controllers
11:06 < dfused> yeah it was not happy. so I just decided to load up win2016 instead.  I was looking for an excuse to setup a second DC anyway.
11:06 < xray> It is better to use a RAID controller that supports JBOD mode which the PERCs do not.
11:07 < dfused> I do not understand that statement.
11:17 < xray> JBOD = Just a Bunch of Disks
11:18 < dfused> yes, but not sure why having a raid controller for jbod is good for backup?  I want the redundancy n such
11:18 < xray> It is the preferred method of presenting hard drives to Linux so you can use the host operating system to manage the RAID
11:18 < dfused> ahhhh
11:19 < xray> PERC controllers abstract the hardware so the operating system can not see the individual drives
11:19 < xray> this makes it impossible for Linux to manage the RAID
11:19 < dfused> so you're saying that a s/w raid is more reliable and recoverable than a h/w raid?
11:20 < xray> FreeNAS works better when you use Linux to manage the RAID so PERC controllers will not wirk
11:20 < xray> work
11:20 < xray> Some times
11:20 < xray> If the host O/S is Linux, yes
11:20 < xray> If the host O/S is Windows no
11:20 < dfused> lol
11:20 <@dasunt> Donald Knuth is 80 now.
11:21 <@dasunt> Still working on TAOCP.  Dang, makes the wait for the sixth book of A Song of Ice and Fire look easy.
11:22 <@_NSAKEY> dasunt: At least Knuth doesn't seem to be in denial about the fact that he'll most likely be dead before his signature work is complete.
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12:52 < aestetix> isn't he supposed to finish 7 books?
12:53 < aestetix> and he's out to 4a... of I think 3 volumes for 4
13:18 <@Dagmar> xdb: That's kind of not sysctl's job, man
13:19 <@dasunt> _NSAKEY: GRRM could finish the series.  #iwanttobelieve
13:21 <@dasunt> So intel's "fix" for future CPUs is to have the CPU to be insecure by default and the OS to tell the CPU to turn on the indirect branch restricted speculation?
13:22 <@dasunt> Yet they want us to believe that there will be a minimal performance hit to clean up the security holes.
13:33 <@Dagmar> Lordy Linus was not happy with them this week
13:40 <@Catonic> Probably so. Some DoD user is probably requesting that feature since it makes things easier.
13:40 <@Catonic> I'm with Linus though: fix the bugs, do it right the first time.
13:41 <@Catonic> dfused: the issue is that hardware raid has a tendency of failing without giving proper notice, unlike software raid, where the warning shows up in syslog.
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14:07 <@Dagmar> It looks to me more like the marketing people at Intel are getting to signoff on what patches get released
14:07 <@Dagmar> This shitshow all seems to be directed at the negative press they were getting about the performance hit, rather than actually trying to _fix_ a goddamn thing
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15:15 <@dasunt> Why did the Dems fold?
15:19 <@dasunt> Polls looked good for Republicans getting blamed.
15:20 <@Dagmar> Probably because it's their fault
15:25 <@dasunt> They only control the White House and Congress.  :(
15:26 <@dasunt> I still think locking all lawmakers into the house and senate until a deal is reached is an effective way to end government shutdowns.
15:26 <@dasunt> Preferrably once we add a retractable roof to congress.
16:12 <@Catonic> dasunt: add in "and no food deliveries until agreement met" and I'm onboard.
16:21 <@dasunt> Catonic: That would be cruel.  We should give them stale bread and lukewarm water.
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17:16 <@shapr> xray: you called?
17:18 < Guest63785> guest...wtf guest
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17:22 <@Mirage> that's beter
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17:29 < xray> shapr: yes
17:29 < xray> I got a Circuit Playground Express educators pack
17:30 < xray> and wanted to talk to you about the con badge project
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21:29 <@opticron> xray, hooo boy, that's a fun story
21:29 <@opticron> shapr, regale us!
21:40 < xray> shapr: Fun fact. I found a bug in the Arduino library for the microphone
21:42 <@Dickie> omg marry me
21:47 < xray> sorry already taken
21:49 < K`Tetch> ha, talkign with a jouranlist in the UK for an intercept piece, and I think we've managed to crash GnuPG
21:50 < xray> during the conversation
21:50 < xray> or while encrypting email
21:51 < K`Tetch> actually, one he sent me has caused it to error, and now its erroring when I check my keys
21:51 < xray> what email app
21:52 < K`Tetch> thunderchicken
21:52 < xray> Hmmmm
21:52 < xray> haven't tried it with Thunderbird
21:52 < xray> Windows?
21:52 < K`Tetch> meh, I'll have him resend to another account tomorow, see if it fixes
21:52 < K`Tetch> yeah
21:53 < xray> I have had issues with Leopatra
21:53 < xray> try killing and restarting it
21:53 < xray> Kelopatra
21:53 < K`Tetch> i aint cool enough to pay twice as much for mac, and I don't like any of the video editors on *nix
21:53 < K`Tetch> I've klled and restarted, also uninstalled and reinstalled enligmail
21:54 < xray> your key file may be corrupted
21:54 < xray> do a chkdsk /r
21:54 < K`Tetch> yeah, thats going to be an overnight thing too
22:18 <@dasunt> huh, house across the street sold.
22:26 <@dasunt> and the other rental is rehabbed, going for $2350.
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