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06:38 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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07:33 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: you might want to get on Tamiflu after aestetix gave you a close contact hug.
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08:43 <@Dolemite> Yeah, my daughter has already had it and I managed to escape it.   I think I'm probably good.
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10:51 <@dasunt> Huh, according to this article I'm reading, shaken baby syndrome is a questionable diagnosis.
10:52  * Dickie heads to the lab to conduct some tests
10:52 <@dasunt> They have alraedy - not on actualy babies, but on child dummies.
10:53 < aestetix> google is offering a certification on IT support
10:53 < aestetix> Google, who has the worst fucking support from any company I've ever seen
10:57 <@dasunt> Anyways, I guess "toddler falling over" and "toddler being shaken" subjects the brain to similar forces.
12:24 <@Corydon76> Similar, but not identical.  One is much more severe.
12:28 < aestetix> so can anyone tell me why a university feels the need to offer free therapy and counseling to students when a conservative speaker comes to speak?
12:32 <@Corydon76> I'm pretty sure they offer that all the time.  It's just that conservatives like to highlight it when they come to campus and speak
12:32 < aestetix> That makes more sense.
12:32 <@Dagmar> Also, it keeps the whiny little bitches out of the offices of people who have meaningful work to do
12:33 < aestetix> Although it would be nice if those services were reserved for people who actually needed it, and not those who can't handle an opinion they don't like
12:34 < aestetix> "My brother committed suicide and I need someone to help me work through it, but all the counselors are busy because there's a conservative speaker on campus"
12:34 <@Corydon76> How exactly do you tell the difference between those two groups without offering counseling sessions in the first place?
12:34 < aestetix> Corydon76: my honest answer is that universities should not be in the business of offering counseling for non-academic things.
12:34 <@Corydon76> Universities shouldn't be in the business of a lot of things that they do now
12:35 < aestetix> I completely agree.
12:35 <@Corydon76> Chief among them, universities shouldn't be using the tuition of other students to fund scholarship programs for students.
12:35 < aestetix> I always thought academic counseling was more to help students figure out how to succeed in their coursework.
12:36 < aestetix> But maybe I'm old fashioned.
12:37 <@Corydon76> You're old fashioned.  Counseling is also to make sure that that one kid doesn't take a sniper rifle to the bell tower and start knocking off students and staff
12:38 < aestetix> I didn't say counseling is a bad thing.
12:38 < aestetix> Like, if there are nearby counselors just off campus, maybe that can help prevent that.
12:38 <@Corydon76> You're forgetting legal liability
12:38 < aestetix> But free counseling sponsored by a university.... seems a bit mothering.
12:38 < aestetix> ugh
12:39 <@Corydon76> If a reasonable person should have known that kid was about to go off his rocker, then the university has a legal responsibility to intercede
12:39 <@Dickie> There's a lot of talk about "so and so shouldn't be in the business of...", but without them, there would be little or no access
12:39 < aestetix> So lawsuit culture leads to nanny state?
12:39 < aestetix> or well... nanny university
12:39 <@Dickie> NSU
12:40 < aestetix> Corydon76: that reasoning never ends well.
12:40 <@Corydon76> The law is the law.
12:41 <@Corydon76> You run a business according to ways that minimize your liability, or you will not be in business for long
12:41 < aestetix> And therein lies the problem.
12:41 < aestetix> Viewing education as a business.
12:41 < aestetix> Actually
12:42 <@Corydon76> It _is_ a business.  Might be a nonprofit, but it's a business all the same
12:42 < aestetix> Is it possible for students to sue a college if they can't find a job after they get a degree?
12:42 <@Corydon76> Colleges which fail to bring in enough income to meet their expenses go belly-up
12:42 <@Corydon76> St Joseph's in Indiana just did that, for example.
12:43 < aestetix> This also explains why recent grads from American univesrities I meet are 1. so stupid 2. so entitled
12:43 <@Corydon76> I have a friend who just retired as professor from there, and the place was going down the tubes
12:44 <@Corydon76> LOL.  You think that applies only to recent graduates?
12:44 < aestetix> No, I'm just being nice.
12:44 <@Corydon76> That's pretty typical for ALL new graduates.  They think they know everything, and they are stuckup assholes who will be cut down to size after a few months or years in the workforce
12:45 < aestetix> Unless that workforce exists on a "campus" itself
12:45 <@Corydon76> It's been true for at least 50 years.
12:45 < aestetix> (IE google/facebook/etc)
12:45 <@Corydon76> Even then
12:46 <@Corydon76> The worst new programmers are the ones with shiny new degrees, who assume they must know more than the seasoned programmer without a degree.
12:49 < aestetix> Once again, a discussion about the truths of the state of America has left me feeling really depressed.
12:49 <@Corydon76> Hah, you think it's only America that has this?
12:50 < aestetix> I'm more referring to the university system
12:50 <@Corydon76> This problem about entitled graduates has a great deal to do with being _young_ and _naive_.
12:50 < aestetix> Not the entitled graduates bit
12:51 <@Corydon76> Oh, you mean the liability?
12:51 < aestetix> I don't know what it is. American universities seem broken
12:52 <@Corydon76> They function within the system in the best way they can.  They react to stimuli.
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14:24 <@ezelkow1> i still dunno who these know it all youngsters are, i have yet to meet one. I know when I started I definitely knew that I knew nothing
14:24 <@ezelkow1> and most that I interviewed over the years seemed to understand that as well
14:46 <@dasunt> BTC is at $10k now?
14:46  * dasunt ponders if the hype will now die.
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14:53 <@Mirage> bah, Netflix added "Rip Tide" instead of "Riptide"..got excited for no reason.
14:53 <@Mirage> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086789/?ref_=nv_sr_1
14:53 < PigBot> Title: Riptide (TV Series 1984–1986) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) http://tinyurl.com/ya9qnp55
14:57 <@Dagmar> dasunt: That depends on how hard the next round of people flogging shorts goes
14:58 <@Dagmar> dasunt: This was pretty much all about those derivatives contracts from people shorting BTC expiring at 4pm London Time (basically a few hours ago)
14:58 <@Dagmar> I probably should have gone all-fiat for that but I was busy dealing with domestic stuff and snow/ice
16:03  * dasunt waits and sees.
16:35 <@Dagmar> I've managed to scrape a bit out of the dips anyway
16:35 <@Dagmar> At least the volatility is still high
16:35 <@Dagmar> It is almost enough to make one deeply paranoid.
16:35 <@Dagmar> Every time I stop watching or get pulled away from the computer unexpectedly, stuff falls
16:35 <@Dagmar> If I'm sitting there watching, nothing much happens.
16:36 <@Dagmar> If I go all-fiat and go to sleep... things moon launch.
16:36 <@Dagmar> I should be my own goddamn short market
16:36 <@Dagmar> At least we're bullish on the 15m chart
17:22 <@Evilpig> what kind of asshole wants wget to interact with an API rather than use curl?
17:44 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: The kind of asshole who wants to make you complain about it on IRC.
18:27 <@Evilpig> to be fair I complained about it on slack too
19:40 <@Evilpig> https://press-start.com.au/news/nintendo/2018/01/18/nintendo-labo-nintendk-switch-brand-new-build-play-experience/
19:40 < PigBot> Title: Nintendo Labo Is A Brand New Build And Play Experience For Nintendo Switch (at press-start.com.au) http://tinyurl.com/y8jt9qqz
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