--- Log opened Tue Jan 16 00:00:58 2018
00:06 <@ezelkow1> yea they claim they dont do predatory lending, but the amount they are still willing to approve people for is ridiculous
00:06 <@ezelkow1> sure, if you have no other bills at all, and nothing ever goes wrong, then you're just fine
00:07 <@ezelkow1> i think i was approved for 500k too, and definitely at that time i in no way felt comfortable with that, only half that
00:35 <@_NSAKEY> I'm still waiting for the subprime auto market to implode. It's coming, and as someone who used to be on the business end of that, it's going to be hysterical to watch that slow-motion train wreck unfold.
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00:48 < aestetix> so
00:48 < aestetix> is there a working patch for Spectre yet?
06:25 <@Dagmar> Hawaii --> https://gfycat.com/QueasyGrandIriomotecat
06:25 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
06:26 <@Dagmar> moppy: No one cares
06:26 <@Dagmar> @#$@
06:40 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:03 <@Mirage> Bah.. "A few toys that cause players other than the caster to take involuntary action (such as the Piccolo of Flaming Fire or Tickle Totem) no longer function on targets outside the instigator’s party or raid group. The Neural Silencer is also more effective against several of these toys."
09:05 < xray> Non-sequitur. Does not compute.
09:05 <@Mirage> Yeah, well...Dag and Pig will understand and also be outraged
09:06 <@Evilpig> awww
09:06 < xray> Ah.
09:06 <@Evilpig> no more train in the AH
09:06 < xray> Let the outrage begin then.
09:06 <@Mirage> This I don't like at all...though it does make sense. "Every zone in Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Outland, Northrend, Pandaria, and Draenor now use the level scaling system introduced in Legion. This new scaling system greatly increases the amount of options you have when deciding where to quest and when to move on to the next zone.
09:06 <@Mirage> All corresponding dungeons and the rewards therein now scale as well."
09:07 <@Evilpig> that makes some sense but it breaks the storyline
09:07 <@Evilpig> granted the splitting broke the storyline too when they reshuffled all the zones
09:07 <@Mirage> And it fucks me trying to get the piece from the iron jugg for my Reaves.
09:07 <@Evilpig> true
09:08 <@Mirage> I finally got the Force Reactive Disk recipe to drop in MC, so I don't have to run that anymore.
09:08 <@Evilpig> the one from uldom or whatever is the one that took me the longest
09:08 <@Evilpig> nearly two months
09:09 <@Mirage> Um, yeah...I've been trying to get the FRD to drop for my pally for a lot longer than a couple months
09:09 <@Mirage> And it finally dropped for my mage..
09:10 <@Mirage> I was figuring on getting exalted before getting the FRD on the pally the way it was going
09:40 < dfused> nerds.
09:40  * dfused puts on his cloak, flips the side and walks away
09:40 < xray> And proud of it!
09:41 < xray> Not to mention well paid for it.
09:41 < dfused> dammit.
09:42 < xray> Did I also mention I married the HOT girl.
09:42 < xray> So being a nerd is not a bad thing.
09:42 < dfused> hot girls are usually bat shit crazy
09:43 < dfused> if you got a smart one, then you hit the trifecta
09:43 < xray> Not in this case
09:43 < xray> She is awesome
09:43 < xray> Not sure how that happened
09:44 < xray> I may be a nerd but some things are still a mistery.
09:44 < xray> and I can't spell
09:44 < xray> sigh
09:44 < dfused> lol
09:45 < xray> having a high IQ doesn't mean you grok everything
09:45 < xray> like Sheldon
09:45 < xray> which I have often been compared to.
09:45 < dfused> the more ppl I follow in the security field, the dumber I feel
09:46 < xray> Yes, I totally agree
09:46 < xray> I'm really good at it and there are some that make me feel like I'm the village idiot.
09:49 < aestetix> man
09:49 < aestetix> some dogs have really big testicles
09:51 < xray> Sadly it's not me
09:51 < xray> otherwise I'd have more kids
09:52 < xray> aestetix: Long time no talke to
09:52 < xray> gaaaahhhh I can't type today
09:52 < xray> must need more coffee
09:53 < xray> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/list-of-links-bios-updates-for-the-meltdown-and-spectre-patches/
09:53 < PigBot> Title: List of Links: BIOS Updates for the Meltdown and Spectre Patches (at www.bleepingcomputer.com) http://tinyurl.com/ycwykuog
09:53 < aestetix> I cannot even express how pissed off I am about meltdown/spectre
09:53 < xray> Just for the record Raspberry Pis are not vulnerable to Meltdown or Spectre.
09:54 < aestetix> This is the worst handled security issue I've seen in years, if not ever
09:54 <@Evilpig> I've seen worse
09:54 < xray> Yeah but there have been better.
09:54 <@Evilpig> I reported a js injection problem to out security folks and the in house devs and it still hasn't been fixed
09:54 < xray> They could have used them as an example of how to do it right.
09:55 <@Evilpig> that was over a month ago
09:55 < aestetix> It's the combination of thing being published incompletely, without proper tools to verify, as well as the fixes having negative side effects, or not working at all
09:55 <@Evilpig> I mean come on... how hard is it to prevent js injection?
09:55 < aestetix> Like, I installed the microcode intel released to fix spectre, and it didn't fix it
09:56 < xray> Given that I get blank stares when I talk to devs about SQL injection, I would say it's pretty hard for them.
09:56 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: I went into the meltdown/spectre thing expecting that none of the fixes are going to be effective for at least 6 months.
09:56 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I've been trying to come up with reliable and verifiable procedures for the fix.
09:56 < xray> It's hard to write good code with one hand.
09:56 < aestetix> It's fucking horrible.
09:57 < xray> They are using the other to cover their ass.
09:57 < xray> Selling stock comes to mind.
09:57 < aestetix> I mean yeah it's not as bad as how anything related to npm is handled
09:57 < xray> When the invented email, they never envisioned spam either.
09:57 < aestetix> But I expected a higher caliber of quality from intel
09:58 < xray> That's because they have a reputation created by the prior leaderhsip.
09:59 < aestetix> oh so we can blame this on millennials?
09:59 < xray> What we are seeing now is uncovering the current leadership which is not living up to their predecessor.
09:59 < xray> No
09:59 < xray> I suspect the C levels are not millenials
10:00 < xray> But they also are not the people who built Intel's reputation either
10:31 < aestetix> https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/
10:31 < PigBot> Title: Pricing on DigitalOcean - Cloud virtual machine & storage pricing Spaces (at www.digitalocean.com) http://tinyurl.com/kfkfo5p
10:31 < aestetix> looks like digitalocean is now competing with kimsufi
10:31 < aestetix> they got a $5/month server on there
10:34 < dfused> @Dagmar : thoughts on btc correction?
10:47 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: That's ancient news. DO has had $5/mo servers for a few years. When did you last look?
10:47 < aestetix> apparently a few years ago
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11:30 <@Dagmar> dfused: I'll let you know when they have onbe
11:38 <@Dagmar> dfused: What's going on now is just market manipulation because of all shorts that are going to expire in about 23 hours
11:39 <@Dagmar> 4pm Wednesday, London Time
11:39 < dfused> apparently there was also some shit about jp morgan sayin govt gonna ban all cryptocurrencies... -shrug-
11:40 < dfused> I'm just riding it out anyway....
11:40 < dfused> I'm still making money via pairs trading
11:58 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_cFhMLk0o
11:58 < PigBot> Title: Its Snowing! Gotta Get The Bread and Milk (Tennessee style) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y83cewke
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13:11 <@Dagmar> dfused: People should ignore everything the "old guard" say about cryptocurrencies, as it is pretty much 100% manipulation
13:11 <@Dagmar> China is cracking down a bit more, but they all got out of the markets months ago
13:11 <@Dagmar> South Korea is here to stay, but they're already isolated into their own little ecosystem by regulators (which is fine)
13:30 < dfused> I figure if the old banks are pissy about coins, then its a good thing for the legitimacy of coins in the longer run.
13:30 < dfused> though, I do worry about US passing laws to tax the living dogshit out of it, and getting aggresive about punishing those that attempt to trade outside exchanges to evade.
13:39 <@Dickie> launder it
13:39 <@Dickie> convert them to beanie babies
13:39 < dfused> lol
13:44 <@_NSAKEY> Dickie: If you think about it Beanie Babies were really the Dogecoin of the 90s.
14:08 <@rattle> I think The Facebook broke.
14:09 < dfused> eeeeeexcellent
14:47 <@Dagmar> Oh god
14:47 <@Dagmar> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.swapit.expander.de&hl=en
14:47 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
14:47 <@Dagmar> Someone actually wrote that shitpile
14:53 <@dasunt> I love how the Dogecoin guy says "we should not have a marketcap for Dogecoin that's this large"
15:00 <@_NSAKEY> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
15:01 <@ezelkow1> yay, its QEMM 2.0
15:02 <@Dagmar> Not even that
15:02 <@Dagmar> Android doesn't have a use for swap
15:02 <@Dagmar> That shit is managed by ART/Dalvik already
15:02 <@Dagmar> ..and it's managed better than a swap mechanism will ever be able to.
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15:37 <@rattle> BTC is about to drop below 10k.
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15:56 <@Evilpig> holy shit...  emojii domain registrations are now a thing
15:56 <@Evilpig> wtf
15:56 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7inpnpcuvbay9p0/Screenshot%202018-01-16%2015.55.27.png?dl=0
15:56 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2018-01-16 15.55.27.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydh47lre
15:56 <@Evilpig> https://xn--i-7iq.ws/
15:56 < PigBot> Title: i❤️: Emoji Domain Name Registration: ❤ Your Emoji URL! 😀 (at xn--i-7iq.ws) http://tinyurl.com/y8xco47g
16:03 <@_NSAKEY> Evilpig: Sounds like I need to do a poop emoji registration, just to share with this one particular co-worker who decided it would be a good idea to tell our business applications director, more or less, that our SLA was defined by how long it took us to take a dump.
16:03 <@_NSAKEY> I wish I was making the previous line up.
16:06 <@Evilpig> sounds like something I'd do
16:19 < aestetix> god
16:19 < aestetix> I had half a shot of some drink
16:19 < aestetix> and it fucking floored me
16:19 <@Evilpig> welcome to old
16:20 < aestetix> I'm still recovering from it
16:20 < aestetix> like three hours later
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16:26 < aestetix> I kinda wanna know what that was
16:26 < aestetix> because I know sometimes a tiny little shot can pack a huge punch
16:26 < aestetix> maybe it was a Berliner Fuckyou Sour or something
16:28 <@Dagmar> You're a fucking lightweight or you were roofied.
16:28 <@Dagmar> Half a shot of PGA shoudln't floor you
16:28 < aestetix> I'm a lightweight
16:28 <@Dagmar> Anything more potent has _been adulterated with narcotics_
16:28 < aestetix> also I don't drink often
16:28 <@Corydon76> Or your constitution has been weakened, because you're coming down with the flu.
16:29 < aestetix> Corydon76: I'm going to pretend you didn't say that.
16:29 <@Corydon76> Why?  You're not immune.
16:29 <@Corydon76> H3N2 is particularly virulent this season.
16:29 < aestetix> nope
16:30 <@Dagmar> Peking Duck Flu
16:30 <@Corydon76> Could be worse.  You could be projectile vomiting and projectile shitting at the same time.
16:31 <@_NSAKEY> I like how aestetix is triggered by the flu but not by the idea of being roofied. Let that sink in...
16:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah, that's just a bit suspicious
16:32 <@Dagmar> Rejecting the idea out of hand that the drink was tainted is *bound* to lead to some fun situations in the future
16:32 < K`Tetch_> I barely drink any more (mostly stopped 12 years ago) and I can still not be floored by a shot or two
16:32 <@Corydon76> Might be self-esteem related, in that he doesn't think he's attractive enough to warrant being roofied.
16:33 < K`Tetch_> my eldest had 3 shots on her 21st 9and had been a complete tee-totaller until then) and it didn't floor her
16:33 <@Corydon76> Or maybe he'll sleep with anybody, so there's not point to roofie him
16:35 <@Dagmar> My suspicion is that someone just wanted him out of their hair
16:35 < aestetix> I dunno. Maybe it's not wise to trust germans.
16:35 <@Dagmar> I've never roofied anyone for that, but i've definitely encouraged them to drink until the pass out
16:35 <@Dagmar> ...which worked out fine.
16:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: and proceed to draw penises on their face?
16:35 <@Dagmar> NOpe
16:35 < K`Tetch_> hey.. so THAT's why....
16:36  * K`Tetch_ is hurt now :-(
16:36 <@Dagmar> If I have to basically sudo someone to get them out of my hair, I'm not going to add insult to hangover
16:37 < K`Tetch_> are hangovers actually real, or is it a comedic device?
16:37 <@Dagmar> They're real
16:37 < K`Tetch_> hmmm, ok
16:38 <@Dagmar> Someone following a proper diet/hydration in good health isn't likely to suffer much the next day if they didn't drink themselves into a state of brain death
16:39 <@Dagmar> ...for everyone else who doesn't eat, sleep, or drink properly, a large quantity of alcohol is just hte thing to push a system over the edge into dehydration and mild alcohol poisoning
16:49 < aestetix> yeah I think it's time to go to bed
16:49 < aestetix> this is the part where I swear never to drink again, only to completely forget I said that in a day
16:55 <@oddball> K`Tetch_: From the symptoms that have been described to me, it's mostly a dehydration headache.
16:56 <@oddball> Never had a hangover, but I've had pretty nasty dehydration headaches.  Therefor, I've deceided to avoid the hangover.
16:59 < K`Tetch_> last time i binged heavily, was net years 2003/2004. Hadn't eaten since dec 30th, then drank a litre and a bit of Gin
16:59 < K`Tetch_> never gotten a 'hangover'
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17:04 < K`Tetch_> (cue rage from Billious, the Oh-God of Hangovers)
17:05 <@oddball> Obviuosly, you have more tolerance than most.
17:05 <@oddball> But I'm guessing you didn't just have a liter of gin... and that's it.
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17:36 < dfused> windows dc on esxi host. time on host is set and is correct.  win 2016 server pulls from esxi, but is two minutes off.  why might this be?
17:42 < skiboy> I keep seeing these things for sale everywhere, and I'm not sure exactly how they work. https://www.amazon.com/Poweka-Riser-Mining-Litecoin-Dogecoin/dp/B00I6MJKT6
17:42 < PigBot> Title: Amazon.com: Poweka USB Pci-e Riser Cable GPU Mining Litecoin Dogecoin: Computers & Accessories (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9r68e52
17:44 < skiboy> It adapts pcie x1 to pcie x16, but I don't see how it would run them at full bandwidth.  The suggested application is for bitcoin mining.  Do algorithms like that require fairly little communication between the cpu and the gpus?
17:44 < skiboy> Or is this just some crazy snake oil
17:48 < skiboy> Because I can understand just loading a small program into the GPU's memory, and telling it to run with fairly little communication with the CPU, but I don't get how the GPU just accepts that it is falling back to an x1 interface
17:57 < K`Tetch_> no oddball - i had tonic with it
19:15 < dfused> waiting on 4T raid 10 to init. ..... sloooooow af
20:50 <@dasunt> ADSL2+ modem:  time to upgrade?
20:53 < dfused> never not upgrade
20:53 <@dasunt> 0.5 Mbps
20:53 <@dasunt> Weeeeee!
20:54 < dfused> damn... I'd go batshit
21:13 <@dasunt> 7.5 Mbps.  Better.
21:16 <@dasunt> that's over wireless
21:23 < dfused> that used to be my max when I lived in bumfuck S.C.
21:23 < dfused> if I watched netflix, I culdnt do much else
21:27 <@dasunt> 802.11g, so that's not the bottleneck.
21:37 <@dasunt> Lets figure out the DSLAM distance.
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