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08:24 <@rattle> I love the cold.  It brings everything that much closer to the temperature of my black heart.
08:26  * Corydon76 exports rattle to Ottawa.
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08:26 <@rattle> People are too damn nice there.  I prefer NYC.
08:27 <@rattle> Besides, I prefer Quebec.  Montreal is a really rad city.
08:42 < aestetix_> rattle: try Berlin
08:42 -!- aestetix_ is now known as aestetix
08:52 < dfused> no love for Vancouver eh?
08:56 < dasunt> not affordable for people who's net worth is under $25mil.
08:58 <@rattle> I have not been to Vancouver yet, so no opinion..
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11:31 <@Dagmar> You're at the home of all the cheap scifi movies?  :)
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12:14 < K`Tetch> if I wanted cold, I'd have stayed in my dads house in the UK (a house that had ONE heater, in the living room downstairs)
12:34 < dfused> meh its not that cold up here
12:58 < dasunt> good today here, even above zero.
13:16 < dfused> oh sweet fucking jesus. ...Bachmann possibly running for Franken's seat.
13:28 <@Corydon76> I hope she wins the GOP primary
13:28 <@Corydon76> Her brand of crazy is unlikely to win in the general against virtually anybody
13:30 <@Dickie> What a deliriously optimistic view
13:30 <@Dickie> I envy you
13:33 <@Corydon76> Minnesota is a fairly reliably blue state, although there are pockets of crazy, which is how she managed to be elected to the House.
14:12 <@rhia> people thought the same about a certain NYC real estate blowhard and look how that turned out
14:15 <@rhia> never underestimate the stupidity of the 'Murikan! public
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14:39 < aestetix> I wish everyone in the US senate would all run for president
14:39 < aestetix> at the same time
14:40 < aestetix> It would overload the news cycle to the point that it would explode
14:44 <@Dickie> One Republican, One Democrat, 98 Independents
14:44 <@Dickie> Something tells me they'd focus on two
14:46 < aestetix> nah, it would be like the republican primaries last year, where they had like 13 debates
14:46 < aestetix> except times two
14:47 <@Dickie> Oh, you mean for presidential *candidate*
14:48 <@Dickie> Those would make for interesting debates. "Senator, you have 8 milliseconds to respond."
16:00 < aestetix> well Dickie you know 8ms is more than they deserve
17:43 < K`Tetch> i think they should scrap primaries
17:43 < K`Tetch> its just public funding of the two main parties, and promoting their candidates too
17:51 < aestetix> btw
17:51 < aestetix> I have been telling all the americans I run into to get off twitter and take their drama to city hall
17:53 <@brimstone> i don't see that in the App Store
18:02 < aestetix> lol
18:02 < aestetix> rhia: or the utter worthlessness of all other candidates
18:03 < aestetix> and I do not mean to imply trump is not worthless
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19:42 <@rhia> aestetix, he's worse than worthless, he's actively harmful
19:42 < dfused> +1
19:43 < dfused> I mean...he just fucking sent a tweet claiming how his nuke button on his desk is bigger that NKs ...
19:47 < dfused> and, I'm all for slowing down sending billions in funding to all these other countries ....but you don't have to be a dick about it.
19:50 < aestetix> tbqh I think trump is too incompetent to be really harmful
19:50 <@rhia> he's just a bottomless sucking hole requiring constant attention
19:50 < aestetix> I do think he's making a fantastic case for congress taking power away from the executive though
19:51 <@rhia> aestetix, dfused just gave one reason that's not actually true, and the slew of federal judges he's appointed are many more
19:52 <@rhia> if, IF the GOP wasn't slap full of craven hypocrites, Trump's incompetence _might_ be a saving grace, but that's not the reality we're stuck with
19:53 < dfused> if anything, the remaing jackasses in govt we're stuck with do nothing but amplify Trumps dmg
19:53 <@rhia> Congress doesn't need to get fancy and make new rules to take power from the executive branch, they simply need grow a spine and use the powers they already have to do what they're supposed to do and keep up the checks and balances
19:54 < aestetix> rhia: agreed
19:54 < aestetix> Well they also need to overturn the war powers act
19:54 < aestetix> and the gulf of tonkin resolution
19:54 < aestetix> and insist that all these military actions be approved by congress
19:54 < aestetix> aka what the constitution says
19:54 <@rhia> but as long as the fundiegelicals are getting what they want and the corporate executives are getting what they want, the GOP has zero desire to rein in Trump
19:55 <@rhia> they actually LIKE him getting all the attention so they can get their way with little to no media notice
19:55 < aestetix> rhia: that is a terrifying thought
19:55 <@rhia> welcome to reality
20:01 < dfused> day by day... he realizes no one is going to shut him up or stop... so he just gets more and more out of control and brazen
20:05 <@rhia> maybe now that the GOP has given the corporations their tax wet dream, scratch that, that tax bill is a full blow job - anyway maybe, just maybe, a couple more GOP congress critters will actually try to rein him in
20:05 <@rhia> hey, I can still dream, for now, can't i?
20:05 < dfused> lol
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