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05:48 < aestetix> god I hate intersectionality feminism
05:48 < aestetix> it's a fucking cancer
05:55 <@Dagmar> Maybe you should start ignoring the snowflakes
05:57 < aestetix> well the last forum I read now is hacker news
05:57 < aestetix> and the snowflakes have started piling into there now too
05:57 < aestetix> every other article posted is about that crap instead of tech
06:39 < aestetix> speaking of journalist standards
06:40 < aestetix> I just saw an article at the Atlantic with a glaring typo in the headline
07:09 < Psilovybin> aestetix, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8-jRZiXbe4 friend of mine sent me that last night
07:09 < PigBot> Title: Camille Paglia Urges Feminists to Stop Blaming Men for their Discontent - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7klt6pr
07:32 < aestetix> Psilovybin: nice
07:32  * aestetix is a fan of Camille Paglia
07:34 < Psilovybin> i just started.. i mean, she jumbles her words together like her brain is moving way faster than her mouth will allow her, but that's fine... i got around that the first minute or so
07:34 < aestetix> yeah, she's known for that
07:35 < Psilovybin> Terence McKenna once said "I am an Anti-Feminist Feminist"  makes sense
07:37 < aestetix> I'm glad her work is circulating more
07:38 < Psilovybin> it's going to piss off a few of my friends, but im at the point now where i'm starting to see more men are getting emasculated by the minute..  like being male is wrong
07:42 < aestetix> god forbid you suggest men and women are different
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10:07 < Psilovybin> aestetix, lol
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12:18 < dfused> so if I've been in contact with this person for eompleyment and they use a 3rd party systems for email interaction... we got to the point of talking (he's the VP) and he said he wanted to setup a followup mtg wher eI come in and meet the team.   then ghosted.   ... sent one email via his 3rd party email address system... shoudl I acquire his company email and send an email or is that "stalking"
12:19 < xray> What do you mean by ghosted? He stopped responding?
12:19 < dfused> yeah
12:19 < xray> OK
12:20 < xray> Depends
12:20 < dfused> but could it be that their system isnt getting email to him? ....he's just really busy? .. -shrug-
12:20 < dfused> I coudl also ping him via LinkedIn I suppose
12:20 < xray> It would appear they chose the use of third party email for a reason.
12:21 < xray> It may have nothing to do with isolating themselves form candidates
12:21 < dfused> its a customer mgmtm system
12:21 < xray> It may just come with the HR system they use.
12:21 < dfused> yeah bamboohr
12:22 < xray> As I see it there are two ways they could take it
12:22 < xray> You violated their process and that keeps you from getting the job
12:23 < xray> Or you showed initiative and chose to improvise, overcome, and adapt. This may be just the kind of person they are looking for.
12:23 < xray> You will have to judge.
12:23 < xray> Then again you could use this to judge if you want to work for them
12:23 < xray> How do they react by you finding his email and sending it directly?
12:24 < dfused> hrm... good points.  and from that I can extrapolate that I'm a person that if you cannot handle my finding a path to get to you, then I'm not sure I wanna work for such a ridgid company
12:24 < xray> If they react badly maybe they aren't the kind of company you want to work for.
12:24 < dfused> da
12:25 < xray> If it is for a security position I think going out of band shows initiative and the kind of thinking needed for information security work.
12:25 < xray> They may not take it that way thought.
12:26 < xray> I have been with my company for 29 years
12:26 < dfused> true... but this is not my only job choice... so, if I blow it up, I'll be disappointed cause I likedd the place, but not throwing up a tarp in an alley and eating rats
12:26 < xray> When I first applied I went out of band and looked up the hiring manager and just showed up and talked to him in person.
12:27 < xray> That combined with being assertive and insistent with HR got me the job.
12:28 < xray> Things get iffy around the Holidays so it may just be due to people being out of the office.
12:28 < xray> The safest move would be to continue pursuing other positions and see if they get back to you after the Holodays.
12:28 < xray> Holidays
12:29 < dfused> I dont like safe.
12:29 < dfused> hold mah beer.
12:29 < xray> Then again I don't know what country you are in so maybe this isn't the Holiday season there
12:29 < xray> LoL
12:29 < dfused> murica
12:30 < xray> I can relate to that attitude
12:36 < dfused> welp caution to the wind.... linkedin inmail sent.  I figure after asking me to come in and telling me that they'll call me back to coordinate day/time, ... they at least owe me a "get lost, you loser"
12:45 < xray> No guts, no glory
12:45 < xray> Hope it works out
12:45 < dfused> danke  and thanks for the feedback
12:45 < xray> no problem
12:45 < xray> glad to help
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13:14 < aestetix> This is scary.
13:14 < aestetix> I'm watching a youtube video
13:14 < aestetix> About 40 minutes into it
13:14 < aestetix> And ublock origin has blocked 126 ads while the video has played
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14:30 < dfused> xray: it worked.  got a reply and the guy apologized for not getting back sooner and still wants to setup a mtg next week!  w00t!
14:38 < xray> most excellent
14:38 < xray> fortune favors the bold
14:40 < dfused> very true
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