--- Log opened Tue Dec 12 00:00:35 2017 00:58 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:06 -!- Psilovybin [~drarkanex@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:03 -!- skiboy [~skiboy@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/skiboy] has joined #se2600 04:54 < aestetix> https://www.servethehome.com/say-farewell-putty-microsoft-adds-openssh-client-windows-10/ 04:54 < aestetix> since some of you use windows 04:54 < PigBot`> Title: Say Farewell to Putty as Microsoft adds an OpenSSH Client to Windows 10 (at www.servethehome.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc7fksyk 05:40 -!- skiboy [~skiboy@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/skiboy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:12 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:24 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:26 <@Dolemite> You got some kind of tic or something? Your hands sure are moving all over the place. 06:27 <@Dolemite> Reminds me of Roy Moore at a quinceanera 06:28 < aestetix> How is that looking btw 06:30 <@Dolemite> A FOX News Poll, of all things, showed Doug Jones up by 10% over Roy Moore, just yesterday 06:30 <@Dolemite> We'll see who actually shows up to the polls, though 06:31 <@Dolemite> I have respect for the Alabama Republicans that say they will write in the name of another Republican rather than vote for either Moore or a Democrat. 06:31 <@Dolemite> They're at least sticking to their values 06:38 < aestetix> well to be honest 06:38 < aestetix> I'm not sure how anyone can trust the polls 06:38 <@Dolemite> I don't 06:38 < aestetix> They also said Hillary had a 90% chance of winnign 06:38 <@Dolemite> Yep, the polls were wrong 06:39 <@Dolemite> I know I sure as hell avoid answering the phone from 800 numbers or blocked caller ID 06:39 < aestetix> http://thehill.com/homenews/news/364399-chinese-state-media-trump-fake-news-mantra-speaks-to-larger-truth-on-western 06:39 < aestetix> this is dangerous 07:13 < aestetix> heh 07:13 < aestetix> I just got into a heated argument with someone about Lets Encrypt 07:13 < aestetix> and they called me old fashioned because I believe in choice 07:13 <@Dolemite> o.O 07:14 < aestetix> (I really, really hate the forced 90 day expiration) 07:22 <@Evilpig> if you have it automated then why care? 07:25 < aestetix> ok not getting into this here 07:44 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:46 <@Evilpig> I'm looking forward to next month when they will start the wildcard stuff. I have 11 different certs for xxxx.wilpig.com that I should be able to replace with a single wildcard 07:47 <@brimstone> my cert creation is automated and on demand, i don't think i'll benefit from a wildcard 07:48 <@Dolemite> Ah, I hadn't been keeping up. Wildcard will be nice. 07:48 <@Dolemite> Then I can deploy that on all of my internal stuff 07:48 <@Evilpig> I already have *.wilpig.com pointed at my server as a dns entry. it will be nice to have a wildcard so that everything will work without any extra files 07:50 <@Dolemite> Faaaaaaaaaaaa. LTC up $100 since last night. 07:51 <@Dolemite> I had almost talked myself into gambling another $250 (1 LTC) last night. 07:58 < xray> I just checked Windows 10 Pro x64 and ssh is not listed so I suspect he is using one of the beta builds but it does imply it will eventually make it to the main stream. 07:58 < xray> ssh that is 07:59 < xray> I have developer mode enabled so I have the Linux command line 07:59 < xray> they say that eventually you will be able to execute the Linux commands from a Windows shell without having to open the Linux command shell 08:00 < xray> For now I'm still using gnu tools for Windows 08:05 <@rattle> I really really regret selling the bulk of my LTC last week. 08:06 <@rattle> I got into it when it was in the 30's.. weep 08:09 <@Corydon76> Playing for speculation can hurt. Financial advisors recommend moving your money for other reasons, like financial needs, not trying to play the market 08:09 <@Dolemite> Yes, that's why I called it gambling 08:11 <@rattle> Oh, it is gambling.. But I'm totally on house money at this point, and enough to buy a luxury car. Nothing I'm doing is _that_ wrong. 08:11 <@Corydon76> And the other recommendation is not looking back. Don't see what could have been. 08:11 <@rattle> True. I remind myself of that. Lost gains are not actual losses. 08:12 <@Corydon76> Peter Lynch-isms. 08:12 <@rattle> I'm still making out over the LTC rise.. And where I shifted it is working out.. Just missing out on what would have been a much bigger gain. 08:12 <@rattle> I still think it's current rise is unattainable and it's going to crash down at any time. 08:13 <@Corydon76> I don't know if anybody even remembers Peter Lynch anymore. He got out of fund management 20 years ago and is enjoying his retirement 08:13 <@Corydon76> Yet his financial advice is timeless 08:14 <@Dagmar> WHAT THE FUCK 08:16 <@Dagmar> 400?!? 08:16 <@Dagmar> ...and of course GDAX goes haywire as I put a stop order in 08:18 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:19 <@Dagmar> *boom* out at $375 08:20 <@Dolemite> damn, it hit a high of $413 08:20 <@Dolemite> I'll be reacting similarly at the $500 mark 08:21 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:26 <@Dagmar> rattle: Honestly, I think it's done the crashing it's going to do. In an hour I'll be more certain 08:27 <@Dagmar> I don't think this valuation is off. Litecoin has basically a better versio of everything Bitcoin has and Bitcoin is widly more than $500 08:27 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't be surprised to see LTC reach $1000, but I was thinking next Christmas, not THIS Christmas 08:29 <@Dagmar> I can see the headline on CoinNews now... "WHAT THE FUCK, CHARLIE" 08:33 <@Mirage> Yay...USPS found my pkg from ebay. I think it's hilarious that they deemed it necessary to update the tracking afterward to state that it was delayed and would not be arriving on time when it was lost for over a week. 08:34 <@Mirage> I'm also quite happy I don't have to go through the nightmare of finding another of that part since it's hard as fuck to find. Last part needed to get the wife's car 100% back to factory original. 08:40 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 08:44 <@Dagmar> Ohh... I see why market activity has "calmed down". GDAX fell over 08:54 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:56 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 09:15 <@Dagmar> It's cool how I have four transactions all "pending" now 09:42 <@Dagmar> Sorted out, finally. ...although I'm liquidiating a $30 loss now 09:46 <@Mirage> !zesty 09:46 <@Dickie> !bold 09:46 <@rattle> It's totally Christmas thou.. I was 35% up in November. I'm already 44% up in December.. And that's even with some pretty bad decisions in play. 09:47 <@rattle> If this keeps going, I could beat my May record of 62%. 09:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm unfortunately committed to buying the boy a new beater car now 09:47 <@Dagmar> Either CMC is broken or GDAX is _wildly_ higher than it should be right now 10:05 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:09 <@Dickie> It's totally Channukah. 10:14 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 10:15 <@Dolemite> Chrismahannukwaanzika for all! 10:27 <@Dagmar> I just reported "a problem" to GDAX 10:28 <@Dagmar> I suggested strongly that since their exchange can stay knackered for a half hour at a time without the status page indicating it's having issues, that perhaps they aren't firing enough hipsters. 10:33 -!- ezelkow1 [~sasquatch@2601:282:702:1eb8:e8be:e05f:35bb:96a0] has joined #se2600 10:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ezelkow1] by ChanServ 10:44 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:51 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 10:56 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:07 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 12:19 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:23 <@Catonic> I don't really understand the furor over cryptocurrency 12:23 <@rattle> Dagmar: I'm sure they are listening to all the smartest commenters on hackernews. 12:24 <@Dolemite> I don't have to understand it to take advantage of it. LOL 12:24 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 12:24 <@Catonic> so you're telling me that a bunch of cryptobits on cryptobits can be used as a money... 12:24 <@Catonic> at that point, it's no better than any other sort of speculative investment. 12:26 <@rattle> BTC just shot up about a grand 12:32 <@Dagmar> I'm hoping to maybe sqeeze another few thou out of this today 12:32 <@Dagmar> I was glad to see GDAX finally correct back down 12:43 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-24-19-29-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:07 -!- Catonic [~catonic@71.45.91.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:34 <@Dagmar> Breaking News: COINBASE HATES FUN 13:53 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-24-19-29-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- PigBot [~pigbot@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- PigBot` [~pigbot@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:35 -!- ^020d [~^020d@108-192-158-126.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:35 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:40 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:40 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:40 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 14:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 14:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: cyberanger, @LastChild 14:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cyberanger 14:47 -!- LastChild [~RasPi@c-71-228-205-189.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o LastChild] by ChanServ 14:48 -!- ^020d [~^020d@108-192-158-126.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@71.45.91.197] has joined #se2600 15:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 15:24 <@Dagmar> I am just astonished that Coinbase turned off LTC and ETH trading because the price was spiraling upwards, when they practically ignored Bitcoin doing much the same thing 15:24 <@Dagmar> You are not a smart man 15:24 <@Dagmar> !@#!@# 15:25 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:32 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@2001:0:9d38:90d7:2092:d156:5955:c5dd] has joined #se2600 16:32 -!- cordless [~cordless@c-73-88-170-178.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-24-19-29-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:53 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-24-19-29-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- dfused [~dfused@c-24-19-29-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:39 <@Dagmar> Oh I *dig* this https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/#join 20:39 < PigBot> Title: December 12: Break the Internet, Save Net Neutrality (at www.battleforthenet.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8nxawm8 21:13 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: https://smile.amazon.com/Throttle-Net-Neutrality-Ethernet-T-Shirt/dp/B077W1HG3X 21:13 < PigBot> _NSAKEY: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes. 21:17 <@Dagmar> A shame there's not enough time to ship that 21:23 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: Yeah, which is why I ordered mine last week. 21:23 <@_NSAKEY> I got it in time to wear it for work's laser tag christmas get-together. 21:44 < dasunt> Doug Jones may win. 21:51 <@_NSAKEY> NYT and CNN are saying Doug Jones won. 22:09 <@Dagmar> LOL 22:09 <@Dagmar> Just about shit myself 22:10 <@Dagmar> Pulled out the phone and got a cached copy of coinmarketcap from yesterday 22:25 <@Catonic> DJ won 22:29 < dasunt> only 49% of Alabama voters backed the pedo! 22:29 < dasunt> 2017 wins are weird. 23:07 <@Dagmar> Is that Alex Jones' brother? 23:07 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah, if you don't mind typing |& grep -vi Gtk-WARNING after every command 23:07 <@Dagmar> !@#!@# 23:08 <@rattle> 2017 is going basically how I expected it to go. The dumpster tire started a tire fire. Unclear how 2018 is going to go though, but the fire isn't going to go out. 23:09 <@rattle> Billy Joel thinks we didn't start the fire. He's told out MSG time enough in a row where I'm not going to question him. 23:09 <@rattle> Hence, no conclusions. 23:10 <@rattle> s/told/sold/ 23:10 <@Dagmar> rattle: Asians need to back the @!#$E@ off and let LTC fall back to the average already 23:10 <@Dagmar> hjeh 23:11 <@Dagmar> I have been watching significant swells on GDAX all damn day, each time going "no, this is way too much higher than the average" when they hit their low poits 23:12 <@rattle> But you were arguing earlier it was grossly undervalued? 23:12 <@Dagmar> Yeah that lasted a hilariously short time 23:12 <@rattle> Plus, LTC growth has come in surges. 23:12 <@Dagmar> I definitely hollered "WHAT THE FUCK" when I sat down at the PC this morning 23:12 <@Dagmar> $400?? 23:13 <@Dagmar> I am pretty sure I'm going to come back to /r/litecoinmarkets for some ribbing 23:13 <@rattle> I got in at $38. I've done the WTF think many times. Enough to buy a decent car. I'm not sad. 23:13 <@Dagmar> I was just arguing iwth some people that it would probably be another day or two before going to $300 again 23:14 <@Dagmar> Now I've been sitting here most of the day going "Oh man it's almost fallen back to $300!!" 23:14 <@Dagmar> I *prefer* the swings where I'm almost goddamn certain of where it's going to go 23:14 <@Dagmar> I makes me crazy doing trades of 5-10 coins at a time 23:15 <@rattle> I've got regrets about LTC. I was convinced when it jumped 40% it wasn't going to hold. I had 80 of the fuckers. 23:15 <@Dagmar> You should have just decided how much you were going to risk and set a stop-loss order 23:15 <@Dagmar> That's what I've been doing 23:16 <@Dagmar> If I hold *ANY* coins I've got one set, and an alarm on my phone 23:16 <@Dagmar> It becomes the "Damn, I only hold fiat" alarm 23:16 <@Dagmar> If it flies all the way up to $600 I don't care as long as I can cash out some of it when I get up 23:16 <@rattle> That's basically what I did. I never sell everything I have of a coin. 23:17 <@rattle> The exchange figures _lie_ like crazy over time. I always hold a bit or everything over time so I can see the rates in my own ledgers and never trust external sources. 23:17 <@Dagmar> If it goes past a certain point, it's going to _keep_ going 23:17 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah twice now I've been dealing with stacks of 5 coins and had one come up literally $0.002USD short 23:18 <@Dagmar> Like, how the hell does that turn into 4.999998 LTC 23:18 <@Dagmar> However, less than a penny... fuck it 23:18 <@rattle> I see blatant errors in the historic levels of stuff all the time. 23:18 <@Dagmar> Like right now, if it drops past $298, my remaining 9.8 coins get sold off 23:19 <@Dagmar> I wake up, figure out WTF just happened, decide if it's bottomed, and then buy back in (with another stop-loss) 23:20 <@Dagmar> It's noodling around on GDAX, but everything's been sitting at $300 today so I'm going to bed with a few alarms and almost all fiat 23:20 <@rattle> Typically, my sell moves have been horribly timed. I did a historical calculation at one point and determined that if I did nothing I would be 20% farther ahead. Sorta sad, actually.. 23:20 <@Dagmar> Same here 23:20 <@rattle> I had 4 BTC at one point. 23:20 <@Dagmar> Mainly tho my issue was getting dragged away from the computer for essentially, running stupid errands, _while_ things were going crazy 23:20 <@rattle> And holdings equal to that in other coin. 23:21 <@Dagmar> ...at which point everything fucking dives like a mofo 23:21 <@Dagmar> I have been trying to tel Audra when they don't have me fetching soda from the store and I can sit and wait for things to happen, I can pull a lot of money down 23:21 <@Dagmar> When things are dead, I just hold fiat 23:22 <@Dagmar> I know if I buy in and they need me to run some little errand, it's going to cost money 23:22 <@Dagmar> Shes' going to some trade show in April with her own table. I'm funding it 23:22 <@Dagmar> Money I made this morning 23:22 <@rattle> You totally sound like a day trader. 23:23 <@Dagmar> I'm working in the timescale where I can be more than 80% accurate 23:23 <@rattle> There is at least one point when pulling out at a wise time saved me 20% of my fund.. So that's addictive. 23:23 <@Dagmar> Oh yes I was very jealous of you pulling out of LTC at $98 23:24 <@rattle> But, in the big picture of things, patience and balancing things has always won out. 23:24 <@Dagmar> I was kcikcing myself for not doing the same thing when LTC hit $199 and some asshat market-sold $10MM 23:24 <@Dagmar> Like, fuck I knew someone was going to do that 23:24 <@rattle> I've had a few really great _almost_ pull out moments. 23:24 <@Dagmar> Every major ATH and it's even proportional 23:25 <@Dagmar> Most of today tho it's seemed like those "kinds of guys" have decided maybe they like money more than chaos 23:26 <@rattle> It's sorta like my bond stuff.. Need to remember stuff follows cycles.. And the position you REALLY want to screw will come around in a year, or four years, or whatever. Taxes matter. 23:26 <@Dagmar> Audra sez "hi" by the way 23:26 <@Dagmar> It can do whatever the fuck it likes so long as it does NOT crash to the damn floor over NYE 23:26 <@rattle> Give her an awkward hug and say "wow, haven't spoken to you in years!" 23:27 <@Dagmar> I need it to sit still for just ten minutes hehe 23:27 <@rattle> I'm assuming I'll loose at least 50% of my coin fund in any future planning.. This shit is going to crash, and hard. Just who knows when. 23:28 <@Dagmar> Then don't fucking dare own a coin without a stop-order set more than 25% below market 23:28 <@Dagmar> If, like you say, you are planning to lose money, plan to minimize it 23:28 <@rattle> I think we've got around a year until this hits a brick wall.. Then like at least four years until any holdings are above water again, if ever. 23:28 <@Dagmar> If LTC follows the pattern established by BTC and ETH and everything else, in a year I won't care 23:28 <@rattle> I'm all on house money at this point. It's just like a goddamn tear on a casino. 23:29 <@Dagmar> Even if someone is a *complete* wackjob and deliberately flash-crashes, I am still going to own a shitton of coins at the end of it 23:30 <@Dagmar> I am seriously considering just permanently leaving $400-500 at teh bottom of the books because of that 23:30 <@rattle> I'm not going to make any predictions without sounding like a loon, but there are so many ways this goes south it hurts. Just have fun. And get your principal plus a bit out ASAP. 23:30 <@Dagmar> I have very sensitive stop levels 23:31 <@rattle> You seem to have this faith the trading system will still work.. Curious. 23:31 <@Dagmar> I don't care if a normal swing is 10% and I'll bounce out at 5%. I'm not losing shittons of money in an hour again 23:31 <@Dagmar> Why you think I said I prefer when I can be *damn* sure which way it's going 23:31 <@Dagmar> At all other times I'm like 90% fiat 23:32 <@Dagmar> I've even been watching BTC and ETH just because it seems like some whales like to liquidate _in order_ 23:32 <@Dagmar> If they both spike down, I'm flushing 23:32 <@Dagmar> Then I watch LTC fall with mild amusement 23:32 <@rattle> You complain about GDAX blowing up all the time, yet seem a bit fixated on trusting any of this shit is going to be up at all if/when things actually turn really south.. 23:33 <@Dagmar> If my stop-loss doesn't go through, neither do any market-crashing sells 23:33 <@Dagmar> I already know I can't flush the stack with the Market button fast enough 23:34 <@Dagmar> ...but I *can* trust that for someone to kill the order book more than $25 at a go they're going to have to sell many millions of dollars all at once and out of the blue 23:34 <@rattle> Pull out your principal. Then, work the house money. As things go good, grow a pile of play money and take the occasional third pay check.. 23:34 <@Dagmar> Seriously. 90% fiat right now 23:34 <@rattle> I'm 99% coin on my fund right now. :) 23:35 <@Dagmar> Waiting for it to go back to $305-$310, and then i"ll put 35% back in, watch it go up to $330 or so, and decide to flush it, shave a bit off the top, or just sell at $340 23:35 <@Dagmar> I am not a greedy man. Greed is a feel. 23:35 <@Dagmar> FEELS COST MONEY 23:36 <@Dagmar> ;) 23:37 <@rattle> My "play coin fund" actually passed my traditional investments last month in overall value. That was what was behind me making jokes about the economy being dead. 23:38 <@rattle> It's just silly. 23:38 <@rattle> It's all doomed. 23:39 <@rattle> Seriously, don't take this too seriously.. It's going to hurt otherwise. It's like the dot-com stocks. 23:39 <@rattle> We'll all be really proud of ourselves if we yank at the right time.. And ten years layer happy if we held on to a bit of amazon. 23:40 <@rattle> And then when some nerd with the right Q# script flattens the markets, we can really laugh. 23:42 <@rattle> I do think what's going on with this stuff is significant, and I am being facetious.. But don't place any life bets of what you're doing. 23:47 <@_NSAKEY> rattle: That's why I've only put $25 of actual money in, and have been playing with mining ethereum. Once I build up enough with dwarfpool to cash out, I'm going to just shuttle it all to coinbase and keep doing that. 23:48 <@_NSAKEY> I'll probably leave the initial $25 in, and just eat the electricity costs for now. 23:48 <@_NSAKEY> I don't expect to do 1/10 as well as any of you guys in a good scenario, but it looks like you fuckers are having fun, at least, and I want in. 23:48 <@rattle> I'm not sure what the right thing to do now is. 23:49 <@_NSAKEY> BTC mining with GPUs hasn't been profitable since The Silk Road existed. I don't know about LTC mining. 23:49 <@_NSAKEY> ETH is doable with GPUs, so that's where I'm going. 23:49 <@rattle> My advice was to put $10k in, grow it to $30k, pull out $10k, then play... 23:50 <@_NSAKEY> Before coinbase started getting chatted up so much, I mainly only knew about ethereum via the stories of ETH getting robbed. 23:50 <@_NSAKEY> Which, as hilarious as that is to me, isn't stopping me from mining it now. 23:51 <@_NSAKEY> I plan on pulling little bits at a time out if I ever build up a decent "portfolio" or whatever, and not particularly caring about when things inevitably crash for a few years again, aside from having a good lol at the expense of the people taking out mortgages to buy bitcoins. 23:51 <@rattle> Unless you're in a position to invest at least $250k and in a location where you can get cheap power, mining options are basically cent fractional bullshit. Not worth the time. 23:52 <@rattle> And by cheap power, I mean stealing power. 23:53 <@rattle> If you want to mine and make enough money to support your own life, you're going to be like Rambo on the side of a river. 23:53 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, it was pretty much a wash. 23:53 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, I'm not interested in going in that deep. This is just for fun. 23:54 <@_NSAKEY> This is pretty much an excuse to give my 1080 something to do when I'm not cracking passwords. 23:55 <@_NSAKEY> It's kind of funny to see how ethminer and hashcat stress the card differently. 23:56 <@_NSAKEY> hashcat pulls more wattage, and absolutely saturates the card. ethminer rides the memory hard and puts it away wet, while largely leaving the desktop usable. 23:57 <@_NSAKEY> hashcat can be tuned down to allow for things like video playback, but that hurts performance. 23:58 <@Catonic> and if you want to generate power, look at renewables and anything that goes from rotating to useful power at the highest efficiency 23:59 <@Dagmar> If you want an example of how immune to feels this has made me, yesterday we had a little drama here 23:59 <@Catonic> feels? 23:59 <@Dagmar> Boy got home from school, came in to take a shower. 10 minutes later neighbor calls. 23:59 <@Dagmar> BOYS CAR IS ON FUCKING FIRE 23:59 <@Catonic> NO YOU DIDN'T 23:59 <@Dagmar> Audra and the boy were *literally* tripping over each other. 23:59 <@Catonic> Tell me you left the marshmellows on the counter. --- Log closed Wed Dec 13 00:00:02 2017