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01:49 <@_NSAKEY> This made me smile. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-06/millions-are-hounded-for-debt-they-don-t-owe-one-victim-fought-back-with-a-vengeance
01:49 < PigBot`> Title: Millions Are Hounded for Debt They Don’t Owe. One Victim Fought Back, With a Vengeance - Bloomberg (at www.bloomberg.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydx64ax6
01:55 < Psilovybin> it's like they looked at 3 different job ads, then divided each into parts, and then randomly        +wiktor_b
01:57 <@_NSAKEY> I have a generally low opinion of collections types, so seeing them get roasted is always a good time.
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03:40 < aestetix> heh
03:40 < aestetix> I still get a kick out of the reaction when I introduce people to dancesafe
03:40 < aestetix> since most of them are ravers who think their druggie friends are "professionals"
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07:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:04 <@Mirage> These guys are pretty badass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3QVLlK-kE
07:04 < PigBot`> Title: Top Secret Drum Corps - Edinburgh Military Tattoo 2012 - 720p HD - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/kfuzpxx
07:13  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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08:52 <@Evilpig> I swear, some of the people I have deal with are just stubborn for no reason.  fuckers want me to be awake to make a change to a dns record just because he has to be awake
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09:12 <@Dagmar> Passing 16500
09:12 <@Dagmar> wtf
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09:21 < dfused> wow....
09:21 <@Dagmar> wtf it's gonna pass 17000
09:22 < aestetix> ....
09:22 < aestetix> you don't mean bitcoin do you?
09:22 < dfused> good thing I didnt liquidate it all! lol
09:22 <@Dagmar> Yes I do
09:23 < aestetix> that's insane
09:24 < aestetix> damn it I was debating buying some when it was at $11,000 and decided against it
09:27 <@Dagmar> This has to be a frenzy in preparation for the ETFs on the 10th
09:27 <@Dagmar> ...which are probably only going to make things worse, actually
09:29 <@Corydon76> Reminds me of something my 12th grade economics teacher taught us about markets:  Don't try to guess at why the market does what it does, because you'll probably be wrong.
09:30 <@Corydon76> And that usually ends up in you making a bad bet.
09:30 <@Dickie> Use a monkey and a dart board
09:30 <@Corydon76> Instead, invest based upon your own reasons and goals, and don't worry about why the market goes up and down.
09:30 <@Dagmar> I am investing based on greed.
09:30 <@Dagmar> The greed of others.
09:31 < dfused> lol
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09:35 <@rattle> I missed some serious gains by pulling out last night.  Oppsie.
09:35 <@Dagmar> Pizzarabe: In other words, no one knew how to set them up
09:36 <@Dagmar> Seems like it's stalled at 16800
09:39 <@Dagmar> ...and it's faaaaling
09:41 <@rattle> These swings are insane.
09:42 <@Dagmar> Yep.
09:42 <@Dagmar> I switched my play stack back to LTC
09:42 <@Dagmar> ...because that's where people are fleeing back to.
09:43 <@rattle> I pushed some back into BTC earlier today.  Not sure if I made the right move.  I haven't changed my ETH and LTC holdings in awhile..
09:44 <@Dagmar> Im' suprised you didn't pull back on ETH after the CyberKitties thing
09:44 <@rattle> I'm wishing I didn't do anything last night..  I'd be up a solid 7% or so..
09:44 <@Dolemite> me0w me0w me0w
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09:44 <@_NSAKEY> That cats thing is just insane.
09:44 <@Dagmar> That it started clogging up their blockchain just kills me
09:45 <@_NSAKEY> At least it isn't The Silk Road.
09:46 <@Dagmar> As expected, with BTC stalled, people come crawling back to LTC
09:46 <@Dagmar> More coins for me
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10:10 <@rattle> A buck away from 17k..  cray cray
10:10 < aestetix> god damnit
10:10 < aestetix> I had the chance to invest like 20 EUR when it was at $10,000
10:10 <@rattle> And there she blows..
10:10 <@rattle> Dang.
10:11 <@rattle> And it's already up to 17.2k
10:13 <@Dagmar> I don't know WTF will happen at 20k
10:13 <@Dagmar> That line is awfully flat past that point
10:13 <@Dolemite> Coinbase is again unable to handle the flood of requests coming in.
10:13 <@Dagmar> Why in god's name are you still using Coinbase
10:13 <@rattle> Already trades occurring upwards of 17.5k..  Minutes.  Minutes have passed.
10:13 <@Dolemite> I don't trade
10:13 <@Dolemite> I just sit
10:13 <@Dagmar> You just enjoy paying fees?
10:13 <@Dolemite> I use coinbase to keep track of it
10:13 <@Dagmar> Ah
10:14 <@Dagmar> 17,500 it is
10:14 <@Dolemite> I paid a small fee to buy in.   I'll pay a small fee whenever I eventually pull my measly amount out.   Hopefully I can buy a steak dinner with my proceeds.
10:15 <@Dagmar> I've paid for a new Nest Thermostat... this morning
10:15 <@Dolemite> I'll bet it's all because of last week's Big Bang Theory episode.
10:15 <@Dagmar> No, it's because there's futures trading markets opening on Monday
10:16 <@Dagmar> ...and there's not even enough bitcoin left on the exchanges to go around
10:16 <@Dagmar> The new whales will barely notice the old whales
10:18 <@Dolemite> ok, time for the departmental Krampus Luncheon
10:19 < dasunt> I'm not sure I trust Nest.
10:20 < aestetix> https://www.popehat.com/2017/12/07/lawsplainer-donald-trump-jr-and-the-attorney-client-privilege/
10:22 <@rattle> 18k.
10:22 <@rattle> 18.4k.
10:22 <@rattle> 18.7.
10:23 <@Dagmar> dafuq
10:23 <@rattle> BREAKING NEWS:  Rationality no longer exists.  Have a good day!
10:23 < dfused> lolol
10:23 <@Dagmar> Nothing to do now but wait for the grey-haired historical economists to come out of the woodwork to explain WTF is going on
10:24 <@rattle> It's pushing on 19k..
10:24 <@Dagmar> Even GDAX is going spongy now
10:25 <@rattle> There goes 19k..
10:26 <@Dagmar> The saving grace is my limit order 1t 185000 bounced
10:26 <@Dagmar> Maybe i can get one in at 25k?
10:27 <@Dagmar> 19,188 and still apparently using arabic numerals
10:28 <@Dagmar> Damnit it didn't bounce
10:28 <@Mirage> Why am I not suprised that I find this review of a movie that Evilpig has.. "For the record, I did not expect it to be very good; I just thought it might be a slightly amusing diversion. Therefore, my high level of disappointment goes to prove just how bad this utter turd of a movie really was. It was mind-numbingly, jaw-droppingly, heart-stoppingly, head-explodingly terrible. Yet, somehow, I could not stop watching it. It's a sickness I have."
10:29 <@Dagmar> GDAX: "Internal server error"
10:29 <@rattle> Yep.  I can't get an order in either.
10:30 <@Dagmar> Translation: "Order book empty.  Coins all gone.  You come back later."
10:30 <@Dagmar> This is interesting
10:31 <@Dagmar> I guess now we'll have to use a unit based on uncertainty?
10:31 <@Dagmar> Like, "there's an 86% chance I own BTC valued at $24,000 per"
10:32 <@rattle> GDAX, crap when it matters..  It's going below 18.  I was trying to unload at 19100.  Grr..
10:32 <@Dagmar> I was trying to put in a sell north of 20k
10:32 <@Dagmar> Like _very_ north of 20k
10:33 <@Dagmar> People need to open up those cold wallets and push them into GDAX so we can watch the price go higher
10:33 <@Dagmar> ...without it being a matter of bidding on the last two coins on the exchange
10:38 <@Dagmar> I've no idea what it's valued at right now
10:38 <@Dagmar> Different parts of hte screen differ by $2000
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10:39 <@Dagmar> It *might* be back up to 17,800
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10:41 <@rattle> And my limit order went in AFTER the point it would have mattered.  Shesh.
10:43 <@Dagmar> I have two limit orders in now, and if GDAX can stay up for the next two hours, both will hoepfully trigger
10:44 <@Dagmar> We'll see if the 1/3 stack sells at 23k
10:50 <@rattle> I placed a limit for 19100 when it was in the mid 18000's and it didn't take.  That would have been a nice one.
10:50 <@rattle> DGAX fucks up whenever it really matters.
10:53 <@_NSAKEY> CoinGecko is also fucked up. I was trying to check ETH to USD and it couldn't stop shitting all over itself.
10:54 <@_NSAKEY> s/is/was/
10:57 <@rattle> Perhaps this is "the big crash".
11:02 < aestetix> bye bye Al Franken
11:03 <@Dagmar> It's likely that what is is market manipulation
11:04 < aestetix> I have a feeling he will not be the last politician forced out over this stuff
11:04 < K`Tetch> dem politician that is
11:04 < K`Tetch> reember, RNC just resumed funding roy moore's campaign tuesday
11:04 <@Dagmar> GDAX is frelled
11:05 < aestetix> that's because the dems have no backbone
11:07 <@Dagmar> It lookslike they've stopped trading momentarily
11:07 <@Dagmar> ...probably to give people time to get more BTC on the tabe
11:07 <@Dagmar> er table
11:07 <@Dagmar> "Update - We are moving all markets into POST-ONLY mode due to performance degredations"
11:08 <@Dagmar> No shit
11:09 <@Dagmar> With a mid-market price of 18162 showing, and only 250k standing between that and 19000?  When they turn it back on it's just going to go apeshit again
11:09 <@Dagmar> lol
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11:18 <@Dagmar> I suspect either the cloudflare caching is failing, or coinbase has just learned how far you can push database replication under load
11:42 <@rattle> Damn I wish my 19100 order went thru..
11:46 <@Catonic> does MN have a Democratic governor?
11:46 <@Catonic> dasunt: yo ^
11:46 <@rattle> Yes
11:47 <@Corydon76> Catonic: yes
11:47 <@Catonic> yeah, I googled.
11:47 <@Catonic> So it's possible he can reappoint Franken after his resignation
11:48 < aestetix> I'm actually kind of sick of this
11:48 < aestetix> I mean, did the people of MN ask Franken to resign?
11:48 <@Catonic> apparently 35 Dem senators have called for Franken to step down
11:48 < aestetix> Or was it some people from the senate and the media?
11:48 < aestetix> I don't give a fuck about other senators.
11:48 <@Catonic> http://time.com/5053958/al-franken-resigns/
11:48 < PigBot`> Title: Sen. Al Franken Resigns Following Numerous Sexual Assault Allegations | Time (at time.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8ut56fa
11:48 < aestetix> The democrats already proved they are regressives with no backbone
11:49 <@Catonic> By Wednesday evening, 35 Senate Democrats had called on Franken to resign.
11:49 < aestetix> The senators didn't vote Franken into power. The people of MN did
11:49 < aestetix> I mean if the media and other politicians are deciding who gets to stay in power in the US, that is a *huge* problem
11:49 <@Catonic> I'm seeing a scene in The Sand Pebbles, where the crew chants "Holman, come down!"
11:50 < aestetix> I mean the democrats already have a huge problem with being totally out of touch with their base
11:50 < aestetix> This just makes that worse
11:50 <@Catonic> .
11:51 <@Catonic> there's more in the story, Franken says its about the people of MN
11:51 < aestetix> I mean, did he get a bunch of angry letters and phone calls demanding he resign?
11:52 < aestetix> Or has he decided based on the threats of his senate colleages
11:52 <@Catonic> I'm sure following this, there will be shame thrown about, asking Republicans to do the same thing, whereupon they will take some sort of position like Dick Cheney and be like "welp... too bad, sucker!"
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11:53 < aestetix> I mean am I totally out of line here?
11:53 <@Catonic> I'm guessing it's a larger ploy for a big show by the Democrats to attempt to convince Republicans to do the right thing publically
11:53 < aestetix> It looks to me like the media and politicians are deciding who represents the people
11:53 < aestetix> Catonic: which is a completely stupid ploy
11:53 <@Catonic> but they are just going to nope about it and be like "yeah, I did it. But I'm here. Good luck getting rid of me. Got things to do, countries to bomb, billions to spend, walls to build."
11:54 < aestetix> This will just lead Steve Bannon to dig up similar dirt on all the democratic contendors for 2018 and 2020 and destroy them
11:54 <@rattle> BTC goes above 17k again, and GDAX craps out, again.
11:56 < aestetix> As much as I hate to say it, this is why Trump got elected
11:56 < aestetix> He has a backbone and tells people to fuck off
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12:26 < aestetix> wow
12:26 < aestetix> http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/363777-ari-fleischer-franken-shouldnt-have-resigned
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14:53 <@Mirage> I have decided that harassing sellers on ebay and amazon with incorrect information listed for the items is a good release for frustration...and a public service
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18:22 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: https://www.recode.net/2017/12/6/16721364/oracle-google-political-war-location-track-android-safra-catz-java-lawsuit
18:22 < PigBot`> _NSAKEY: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
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21:29 < aestetix> anothe rresignation
21:30 < aestetix> It seems that American politics is literally falling apart
21:30 <@oddball> Who now?
21:30 < aestetix> http://thehill.com/homenews/house/363880-rep-franks-resigning-after-asking-female-staff-to-be-surrogates-for-his-child
21:30 < PigBot`> Title: Rep. Franks resigning after discussing surrogacy with female staff | TheHill (at thehill.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9qbdcww
21:31 <@oddball> huh
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22:32 <@rattle> That makes no sense.
22:33 <@rattle> There has got to be a bigger story there.
22:34 <@rattle> There is nothing wrong with discussing surrogracy.  Pressuring someone into it, yeah.  Oh yeah.  Big issue there.
22:34 <@rattle> But discussing?  Really..
22:34 <@rattle> Grey area abound..
22:35 <@rattle> Even putting forth offers to someone to be a surrogate is ok..
22:35 <@rattle> Creating penalties for refusal, that's another thing.
23:40 <@Catonic> yay, snow.
23:45 <@Mirage> Well, at least he wasn't asking a male staff member.. that would have REALLY been awkward
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