--- Log opened Tue Nov 14 00:00:52 2017 01:39 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:30 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:39 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:44 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:29 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:31 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 06:18 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez1 06:18 <@Dolemite> derp 06:18 <@Dolemite> h0ez! 06:27 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:33 <@Dolemite> Will you sign my yearbook? 06:36 <@Dolemite> Maybe we can go hang out at the mall together 06:37 <@Dolemite> https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall?mbid=social_twitter 06:37 < PigBot`> Title: Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall | The New YorkerThe New YorkerThe New Yorker (at www.newyorker.com) http://tinyurl.com/yarakjd4 06:38 < aestetix> uhhh 06:38 < aestetix> That doesn't say "Teen Girls were troubled by how Roy Moore treated them at the mall" 06:38 < aestetix> In which case, not sure why it's a story 06:39 <@Dolemite> "Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls" 06:41 <@Dolemite> Of course, per New Yorker style, the whole article is based on rumor and hearsay. 06:42 <@Dolemite> Well, most of the article. 06:42 < aestetix> I assume they have a direct quote from a mall security guard saying this 06:42 < aestetix> sigh. 06:42 <@Dolemite> people who worked at stores in the mall 06:43 < aestetix> The reason Woodward and Bernstein were able to publish with anonymous sources was because everyone trusted the Washington Post 06:43 <@Dolemite> And several of the accusers from last week mentioned that they met Moore at a mall 06:44 < aestetix> Are these the same accusers that were paid by WAPO? 06:45 <@Dolemite> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 06:46 < aestetix> Sorry if my strong distrust of American media is showing 06:46 < aestetix> (which is not the same as Trump support, which I keep getting accused of) 06:47 <@Dolemite> Oh, I know. It's ridiculous to think that you're trusting a politician more than a "news" magazine. 06:48 < aestetix> I have actually now been called a white supremacist because I said I believe in free speech 06:48 < aestetix> (by an american) 06:49 <@Dolemite> Stop talking to people from the Bay 06:50 < aestetix> I think this guy was from Boston actually 06:59 <@Evilpig> Okay I supported these guys on the orbitkey and I like it, but this is just retarded. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/orbitkey/orbitkey-ring-clip-and-strap 06:59 < PigBot`> Title: Orbitkey Ring, Clip and Strap by Orbitkey Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9drkef5 06:59 <@Dolemite> 90% of Kickstarter is retarded 07:00 <@Evilpig> probably true 07:00 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:00 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:00 <@Evilpig> I like this though. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/angrylychee/felik-intelligent-pet-companion 07:00 < PigBot`> Title: Felik - Intelligent Pet Companion by Angry Lychee LLC Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ltwtf7q 07:00 <@Dolemite> $34 for a keyring on a caribener 07:00 <@Evilpig> not stupid product on kickstarter 07:01 <@Dolemite> ok, that's actually good, and not ridiculously priced 07:02 <@Evilpig> and they've been pretty good about updates on what is going on with their process. it's been interesting to read 07:03 <@Evilpig> time to go get my company paid breakfast 07:05 <@Dolemite> I like free breakfast 07:13 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-73-7-141-82.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 07:21 < aestetix> Hmm. 07:22 < aestetix> Is it possible to say anything positive about a celebrity right now? 07:22 < aestetix> Since it seems like within a week, there's a good chance awful news about them will show up 07:22 < aestetix> And then you look horrible for saying positive things about them 07:22 <@Dolemite> I think ____ is a talented person in terms of their acting craft. 07:22 <@Dolemite> That's about all you can safely say 07:23 <@Dolemite> Now I'm going to go out on a limb here, though... 07:23 < aestetix> Well given what hollywood has been putting out, that would be a lie for the most part 07:23 < aestetix> I mean if the acting was good, they wouldn't need to overdose on special effects 07:23 <@Dolemite> I think Leah Remini is working on some good karma right now. Her series on the abuses of Scientology is really good and on the surface appears to be kicking Miscavige in the nuts. 07:25 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Not necessarily true. Special Effects are, for the most part, under the discretion of the Director and Producer(s). If they feel a need to go overboard with SFX, it's more a sign of their lack of talent than the actors in front of the camera. It's also, unfortunately, an effect of populism and the need to put more butts in seats. 07:25 < aestetix> fair enough 07:32 <@Corydon76> I'm also curious how you think the "demodogs" would have been possible in Season 2 of Stranger Things without special effects? 07:36 <@Dolemite> Makeup and prosthetics only go so far, and training a dog to actually behave while wearing them... yikes 07:36 <@Dolemite> But the presence of some SFX is not the same as overboard SFX 07:36 <@Dolemite> Overboard == George Lucas in the prequels 07:37 <@Dolemite> Using to Advantage == James Cameron in Avatar 07:38 <@Dolemite> Pushing Limits of Acting == Kenneth Branagh in anything he does 07:38 <@Corydon76> I dunno. If the SFX aid in telling the story, I don't think you can go overboard. It's the gratuitous stuff where it becomes superfluous 07:38 <@Dolemite> Or to stick with the Avatar story, Kevin Costner as both actor and director for Dances With Wolves 07:38 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: except for Murder on Orient Express 07:39 <@Dolemite> I have yet to see that one 07:39 < aestetix> man 07:39 <@Corydon76> One reviewer suggested it was a "Why Do It" 07:39 < aestetix> I remember being all excited about seeing episode 1 in theatres when it came out 07:39 <@Dolemite> Reviewers == Haters 07:39 <@Corydon76> I still haven't seen Ep 1 07:39 < aestetix> and.... let's just say I did not see episode 2 07:40 <@Dolemite> I really like the hatchet order for Star Wars. It's how I introduce Mr. 11 to the universe. 07:40 <@Corydon76> I've only seen 2 prequels, Ep 3 and the forgettable one that came out last year 07:40 < aestetix> episode 1 is what you put on for your kids when they have misbehaved 07:40 <@Dolemite> You watch in this order - Episodes 4, 5, 2, 3, 6 07:40 <@Dolemite> And now you'd be able to put Rogue One in there right before 4... along with Star Wars Rebels 07:41 <@Dolemite> And you could put the Star Wars Clone Wars series in there between 2 & 3 08:08 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzofdlgxppjlfsat] has joined #se2600 08:43 <@Mirage> Re Kickstarter: felik..I should be getting a couple of those when they get done. Running a little behind originally projected schedule right now, though that's pretty much expected. 08:44 <@Mirage> LR ceiling goes up to the second story roof and there's a landing overlooking the LR, which should be an excellent place to mount one and over the LR. 08:45 <@Mirage> s/over/cover 08:47 <@Mirage> I finally found a good use for a tablet...checking the trail cam pictures for deer season. Much easier than using a laptop 08:48 <@Mirage> Picked up a refurb Galaxy Tab A 7" and a 64G SDCard for about $75. 08:58 < xray> good price 09:00 < K`Tetch> I sometimes use mine as a viewfinder for my video camera when it's not in easy reach 09:08 <@Mirage> I bought two of the wifi enabled SD cards for my trail cams so that I can view the pics while adjusting where they're pointed. 09:08 <@Mirage> I find it annoying that the wifi will only run for up to 15 minutes, though. 09:10 <@Mirage> It'd be much more cool to just drive up near the camera and pull off all the pics via wifi. 09:21 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:23 < xray> My biggest complaint about Android devices is that you can't patch them. Within a year of buying it there are usually enough significant unpatched vulns it is no longer usable. 09:23 <@Dolemite> Definitely true of the Chinese knock-off tablets 09:24 < xray> The hardware is to proprietary to run Linux on most of them 09:24 < xray> not just knock-offs 09:24 < xray> my Samsung Galaxy S5 from AT&T rarely gets patches 09:24 < xray> it has three RCEs now 09:25 < xray> with no patch in sight 09:25 < xray> even though Google has made them available months ago, well except for KRACK that came out a week ago 09:26 < xray> now my wife's Nexus 5 from Google gets patches 09:27 < xray> but no other Android device I have gets them 09:28 < xray> In my opinion the Android market is a planned obsolescence scam 09:28 <@_NSAKEY> xray: This is why I refuse to buy a phone unless there are LineageOS builds for it, and I can buy an unlocked version. 09:29 < xray> agree 09:29 < xray> and LineageOS is spotty as well 09:29 < xray> better but still spotty 09:29 < xray> then again it is done by volunteers and they do a better job than AT&T 09:30 < xray> Phone providers have no excuse 09:32 <@_NSAKEY> Yes, they do. 09:32 <@_NSAKEY> They want you to upgrade to the new shiny, and renew your contract slavery to them in the process. 09:33 <@Dolemite> Sprint has been pretty good about pushing patches on the LG phones 09:33 < xray> that is not an excuse 09:33 < xray> that's a reason 09:33 <@Dolemite> I think that's more LG's credit than Sprint's, though 09:33 <@_NSAKEY> But xray, don't you want an eternity of indentured servitude to your carrier? Look at all they do for you! Like... Gimp data into tiny "buckets" that are borderline useless. 09:33 < xray> it is reprehensible behavior 09:34 <@_NSAKEY> And think of all the hidden fees! 09:34 <@_NSAKEY> Carriers are wonderful. 09:34 < xray> to me they are the zombies on the Walking Dead 09:35 <@_NSAKEY> LineageOS wasn't perfect, and neither was Cyanogenmod before it. 09:35 <@_NSAKEY> But yeah, I agree 100% that it's better than what the carriers would provide. 09:35 < xray> yes but it is done by volunteers 09:36 < xray> who owe me nothing 09:36 <@Dolemite> Amazon is pretty good with their Fire tablets, aren't they? 09:36 < xray> I expect the vendor (who I paid money) to provide more than a bunch of volunteers 09:36 <@_NSAKEY> xray: Exactly. 09:37 < xray> No idea about the Fire tables 09:37 < xray> tablets 09:37 <@_NSAKEY> Telecommunications is a bad 80s horror movie in slow motion. 09:37 < xray> so Amazon is still rolling out patches to 3 year old Fire tablets? 09:37 < xray> if not then, no they are not any better 09:38 < xray> and I mean rolling out patches not just doing point releases of the OS 09:38 <@_NSAKEY> Even Google isn't perfect with the Nexus line. I've got a friend who has (I think) a Nexus 6, who consistently complains about the lack of OS updates. 09:38 < xray> Google may not roll out OS updates but they do roll out security patches 09:39 < xray> which is the point 09:39 <@_NSAKEY> My rule with LineageOS is to update to the latest "nightly" (Which is more like a weekly, in principle) once a month, and do an out of band update before going to a con. 09:39 <@opticron> well, N6 is out of time for even security updates at this point 09:39 < xray> I understand abandoning systems that can't run a newer operating system. 09:39 <@oddball> That is something that I do have to credit Apple with iOS. 09:40 < xray> But look at how long Microsoft supported Windows XP 09:40 <@_NSAKEY> opticron: I'm pretty sure the same friend had an earlier Nexus that was supported for longer. 09:40 <@_NSAKEY> Could be wrong on that, though. 09:40 < xray> which is not like Android device which you have to buy new to get patches when they are less than 2 years old 09:41 < xray> Yes Apple does a better job of supporting older hardware 09:41 < xray> but then it is still an Apple 09:41 < aestetix> sigh 09:41 < aestetix> I think I am going to be forced to upgrade all my systems to ubuntu 16.04 09:41 < aestetix> god I hate systemd 09:41 < xray> Apple has squandered the market multiple times 09:42 <@oddball> Oh, I didn't say that I liked Apple as a whole, just that they got that right. 09:42 < xray> There is a Debian based OS without systemd 09:42 < xray> I saw it the other day 09:42 <@_NSAKEY> xray: Are you talking about devuan? 09:42 < xray> no 09:42 <@_NSAKEY> They pronounce it as dev-one, but went with a stupid looking name, because it's an open source project. 09:42 < xray> I'll see if I can find a link 09:42 <@oddball> And part of it was that they were able to leverage their name when negotiating with the carriers so that *they* control the software on the phones, not the carriers. 09:43 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Pave everything and install FreeBSD. Then you can tell us how you hate rc.d. 09:43 < xray> LoL 09:43 <@Corydon76> Remaining a minority in the market has its advantages. You don't get nearly the amount of government scrutiny. I think they learned that when iTunes was basically the only online media store 09:44 < xray> https://antixlinux.com/ 09:44 < PigBot`> Title: antiX Linux "antiX Magic" in an environment suitable for old and new computers (at antixlinux.com) http://tinyurl.com/y93naj6y 09:44 < xray> https://antixlinux.com/ 09:44 < PigBot`> Title: antiX Linux "antiX Magic" in an environment suitable for old and new computers (at antixlinux.com) http://tinyurl.com/y93naj6y 09:44 < xray> https://www.voidlinux.eu/ 09:44 <@Corydon76> A bunch of music publishers charged that Apple was abusing its monopoly in setting prices. 09:44 < PigBot`> Title: Enter the void (at www.voidlinux.eu) http://tinyurl.com/y7tv8a7j 09:45 <@_NSAKEY> I just run alpine linux when I want something approaching old linux but without systemd. 09:45 < xray> when I press CTRL-C I really mean you should copy what I have highlighted and not just silently ignore the key press 09:45 < xray> can't figure out if that is a USB thing or a Windows thing. 09:45 <@_NSAKEY> What's interesting is talking to some of you guys, who like me, learned before systemd was a fever dream in poettering's mind... And some of my co-workers, who have no prior experience before encountering CentOS 7. 09:46 < xray> I think it is due to USB keyboard latency 09:46 < xray> I'm system agnostic 09:46 <@_NSAKEY> I found myself having to explain init scripts to a co-worker a few months ago, not long after one of the systemd discussions in this channel. 09:46 < xray> I will work on what ever I need to get the job done 09:46 < xray> as long as they pay me enough 09:47 <@_NSAKEY> He was completely blown away that he could call it with "bash -x" if he needed more visibility into what broke. 09:47 < xray> so LPC10 is probably not in my future 09:48 <@_NSAKEY> There are other little things like that, which have completely mystified co-workers who never touched Linux before systemd was woven into most of the distros. 09:49 < xray> OK I'll bight what is bash -x 09:49 <@_NSAKEY> It's like putting set -x in a script. 09:49 <@_NSAKEY> Go do that on something less complex than an init script and run it. 09:49 < aestetix> yeah bash -x is great 09:49 < xray> As -x is not a bash command line switch as far as I know 09:50 < xray> debug mode? 09:51 <@_NSAKEY> Pretty much. 09:51 < xray> not in the man page 09:51 < xray> will look again 09:52 < aestetix> that's odd 09:52 <@_NSAKEY> You can also add "set -x" at the top of a script, just under #!/bin/bash 09:52 < aestetix> maybe that's one of those things you just pick up 09:52 < aestetix> I'm surprised it's not in the man page though 09:52 <@_NSAKEY> Honestly, I always edited to add "set -x" 09:52 <@_NSAKEY> Then I saw ben do "bash -x script.sh" one day. 09:53 <@_NSAKEY> Then again, Ben and random voodoo go hand in hand. 09:53 < xray> found it 09:55 < xray> Oh I have got to play with that 09:55 <@Corydon76> "set -x" appears to be shorthand for "set xtrace" 09:55 < xray> https://linux.die.net/man/1/bash 09:55 < PigBot`> Title: bash(1): GNU Bourne-Again SHell - Linux man page (at linux.die.net) http://tinyurl.com/h3uuv3t 09:56 < xray> the xtrace reference helped, thanks 09:56 <@_NSAKEY> xray: It's one of those things I always use when working on a new script. Whenever I've polished that particular turd enough, set -x goes away. 09:57 <@Corydon76> xray: Look at BASH_XTRACEFD 09:57 <@Corydon76> That's a fun one 09:57 < aestetix> Does systemd not work with -x? 09:57 < aestetix> I know there is that systemctl status thing 09:58 <@Corydon76> Interesting side effect of setting and unsetting that env var, closing stderr 10:02 < xray> have you seen this https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/oneplus-phones-come-preinstalled-with-a-factory-app-that-can-root-devices/ 10:02 < PigBot`> Title: OnePlus Phones Come Preinstalled With a Factory App That Can Root Devices (at www.bleepingcomputer.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc8sx43g 10:04 * shapr hops quietly 10:04 <@shapr> xray: you all happy with Python now? 10:05 < aestetix> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/20/co-living-companies-reinventing-roommates-open-door-common- 10:05 < PigBot`> Title: Co-living – the companies reinventing the idea of roommates | Business | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) http://tinyurl.com/grrzd5p 10:05 < aestetix> They literally took the concept of roommates, made it "trendy", and commercialized it 10:05 <@shapr> that's a good idea 10:05 <@shapr> I've had some weird roomies 10:05 < aestetix> the buzzword is "co-living" 10:06 <@shapr> sounds good 10:06 < aestetix> from co-working 10:06 < aestetix> which also now means something differnt than it used to 10:08 < xray> sharp: I'm still figuring things out 10:09 < xray> I'm focusing on failure alerts and data structures 10:10 < xray> as for Android I just ran across this (like a minute ago) https://danluu.com/android-updates/ he makes my point and even compares patching to XP 10:10 < PigBot`> Couldn't snarf url: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:492: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure. http://tinyurl.com/y97udoz2 10:10 < xray> The article is "How out of date are android devices" 10:11 <@shapr> xray: got any questions about Python? 10:11 <@shapr> or Haskell? 10:11 <@shapr> or VoIP / SIP? 10:12 < xray> I'm probably not going to learn Haskell 10:12 < xray> as I have no operational need 10:12 < xray> and I have limited time and for me languages are means to an end 10:13 <@shapr> fair enough 10:13 < xray> if I were into languages in and of them selves I would learn it as it looks interesting from a theoretical point of view 10:13 <@_NSAKEY> shapr: I got around to googling desert ironwood truncheons. I like what I saw. 10:14 <@shapr> I figured you would :-) 10:14 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-98-193-255-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 10:14 <@_NSAKEY> Sadly, they aren't on ebay, but you can buy blocks of desert ironwood from Arizona sellers. 10:14 <@shapr> look for truncheon on ebay, anything before the 60s should be ironwood 10:14 < xray> Have you ever worked with iron wood? 10:15 < xray> It is a great way to dull drill bits 10:15 <@shapr> if you make one from a block of ironwood, be aware that you may want a metal lathe and metal bits 10:15 <@shapr> right, what xray said 10:15 <@_NSAKEY> Yeah, no. 10:15 <@_NSAKEY> I was just noting that it's a thing on ebay. 10:15 < xray> there is a reason they call it iron wood 10:15 < xray> beautiful wood though 10:16 <@_NSAKEY> xray: We cracked a teeball slugger during the annual sacrifice. 10:16 < xray> made of iron wood? 10:16 <@_NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/_NSAKEY/status/928220287904239616 In other words, it ascended to Valhalla. 10:16 < PigBot`> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "This is how I know #PhreakNIC was a good time. We got a little carried away with the annual #TeamBOFH sacrifice. https://t.co/aALMDzWFRw" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybu4mhtm 10:16 <@_NSAKEY> No, it's a Louisville slugger teeball bat. 10:16 <@oddball> _NSAKEY clearly needs this: https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-92BSS-Brooklyn-Crusher/dp/B001DRNLE6 10:16 < PigBot`> Title: Amazon.com : Cold Steel Brooklyn Crusher : Standard Baseball Bats : Sports & Outdoors (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7gjpnb2 10:17 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: Don't tempt me. 10:18 < xray> taping a cracked bat is a required life skill in sandlot baseball 10:18 < xray> not to mention taping them is a good way to prevent cracks in the first place or you could just use an aluminum bat 10:18 < xray> although I must say I like the sound a wood one makes 10:19 < xray> much better 10:19 <@_NSAKEY> I like the balance on the one we cracked. 10:19 < xray> I love playing baseball (lettered) but don't like watching it 10:19 <@_NSAKEY> I don't know that tape would have saved it. It's not like we were hitting baseballs, unless by baseballs you mean broken bentops. 10:19 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: Cold Steel is the same company that made the cane that I showed you. 10:20 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: Where might I go to look at one of these in a brick and mortar store? 10:20 <@_NSAKEY> My wiffle ball bat is something everyone who sees it laughs at, but it's survived everything it's been put through. 10:20 <@Dolemite> brick and mortar stores? Hahahahahahaha. GET OFF MY LAWN. 10:21 <@oddball> uh.... Smokey Mountain Knife Works might have them in stock, but that's a bit of a drive. 10:25 <@oddball> I don't know of any stores around here that would be likely to have those in stock. 10:26 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: I think I know what I'm getting myself for Christmas. 10:27 <@oddball> :D 10:27 <@oddball> They have a few other good bludgeoning weaons in their line, but you seem to enjoy baseball bats. 10:28 <@_NSAKEY> I'm open to other methods of blunt force trauma, but these are pretty nice. 10:28 < xray> the "Cold Steel" bats are approved for league play? 10:29 <@_NSAKEY> Probably not, but that doesn't matter in this case. 10:29 <@oddball> Oh god no. 10:29 <@_NSAKEY> The real question is, are they approved for properly disposing of electronics? 10:29 <@oddball> Cold Steel is a knife company who's owner/president/founder is... a bit insane. 10:29 < xray> It took forever for them to accept aluminum bats 10:29 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: After watching this, I have to agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w85mkLwICE 10:29 < PigBot`> Title: Brooklyn Smasher : Cold Steel Bat - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9bh2unb 10:31 <@oddball> Their YouTube demo vids are always great entertainment. 10:32 <@oddball> http://www.coldsteel.com/products/walking-canes-by-cold-steel.html 10:32 < PigBot`> Title: Walking Canes, Training Staffs and More | Cold Steel (at www.coldsteel.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9pz5wvf 10:32 <@oddball> hahahaha... I forgot about the tactical cricket bat. 10:33 < xray> wow that is one bad ass bat 10:35 <@shapr> wow, they have a real shillelagh 10:40 <@_NSAKEY> They also make a war hammer. 10:42 <@_NSAKEY> But, it contains wood, and would probably draw more attention than a bat. 10:44 < xray> and they have blow guns 10:44 <@_NSAKEY> That seems like a good way to keep wayward attendees in line. 10:51 <@oddball> I wouldn't call their shillelagh real... it's 100% polypropylene. 11:39 <@_NSAKEY> shapr: https://arizonaironwood.com/products/new-york-style-ironwood-billy 11:39 < PigBot`> Title: Arizona Ironwood Baseball Bat | Arizona Ironwood LLC Knife & Gun Handle Supplier (at arizonaironwood.com) http://tinyurl.com/y96xorod 11:40 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 11:55 <@oddball> You just want an old school police baton. 12:06 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: shapr had originally mentioned ironwood truncheons at the con. 12:06 <@_NSAKEY> I'm still sold on the Brooklyn Smasher, for a variety of reasons. 12:12 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:13 <@_NSAKEY> oddball: I'm pretty sure I'm going to watch as much of the cold steel youtube channel as possible at work tonight. 12:13 <@_NSAKEY> This is a bottomless pit of comedy gold. 12:14 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 12:24 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:26 <@shapr> _NSAKEY: while ironwood is a class of woods, lignum vitae would be especially fun, it's dense enough that it doesn't float 12:26 <@shapr> Mind you, I don't know much about woodworking, so I don't know if some woods split or chip more than others. 13:09 <@Dagmar> They do 13:09 <@Dagmar> Balsa wood is actually real wood 13:20 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 13:24 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 13:36 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:43 <@Dickie> morning wood is not 13:44 < dfused> teehee 14:04 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I hear you have to be _really_ careful about where you put the nails in that. 15:41 <@Dickie> I've seen some instructional videos on 4chan 15:43 * shapr blinks 15:43 <@NotLarry> Dickie: you play 4chan? 15:47 <@Corydon76> NotLarry: Dickie has even been known to grab another man's chicken. 15:50 <@NotLarry> "chicken" that brings back memories... 15:53 <@Corydon76> There's even a photo floating around of Dickie in that compromising position. 15:53 <@Corydon76> Totally not Photoshopped 16:01 < xray> He was responding to a phishing email? 16:01 < xray> or do you mean some other type of compromise? 17:42 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:45 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatch@2601:282:702:1eb8:e8be:e05f:35bb:96a0] has joined #se2600 19:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 19:49 -!- ezelkow1 [~sasquatch@2601:282:702:1eb8:650f:8f62:c727:e45b] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:59 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 20:04 -!- sasquatc3 is now known as ezelkow1 21:22 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:27 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:00 -!- ezelkow1 [~sasquatch@2601:282:702:1eb8:e8be:e05f:35bb:96a0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08 -!- ezelkow1 [~sasquatch@2601:282:702:1eb8:300c:fb24:b56a:4187] has joined #se2600 22:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ezelkow1] by ChanServ --- Log closed Wed Nov 15 00:00:54 2017