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06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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06:58 <@Catonic> moaning
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07:11 <@Evilpig> anyone running android v8 ?
07:13 <@brimstone> the OCHO!
07:14 <@Evilpig> my phone just popped up with the update this morning and i'm considering loading it
07:15 <@Dolemite> I'm still on Dippin' Dots version.
07:15 <@Dolemite> Or maybe Crusty Cruller
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07:42 <@opticron> I'm running Oreo
07:42 <@opticron> Evilpig, ^^
07:42 <@opticron> not much different from v7
07:42 <@opticron> except for the annoying white QS/notifications which can be fixed by theming
07:43 <@opticron> 8.1 is supposed to include support for BT battery level display
07:46 <@Evilpig> cool.  I just said fuck it and let it load  no issues so I guess it was the right thing to do
07:58 <@Corydon76> Has Android had any past launch issues with their initial releases?  I don't remember any.
08:06 <@opticron> I seem to remember rare cases of devices being soft-bricked
08:06 <@Evilpig> a few times where bootloops were introduced
08:12 <@opticron> but with 8.0 that should be a thing of the past
08:12 <@opticron> since it can detect boot loops and try to fix them
08:12 <@opticron> also handles failed firmware updates with some amount of grace
08:13 <@opticron> the OG pixel 5" couldn't install the 8.1 dev build, but tried, eventually it booted back into 8.0 with settings and apps in tact
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10:39 < dc0de[m]> brimstone: password game? Do share!
10:41 < dc0de[m]> Corydon76: I think android is relatively stable in its current release. Not positive, on a stock t mobile device, a revision or two behind...
10:42 <@Corydon76> dc0de[m]: I was thinking mainly along the lines of reputation, for immediately upgrading.  Contrast Apple's releases, which have been marred with problems.
10:43 <@Corydon76> Even if High Sierra was perfect, the fact that their past releases were not should give one pause before upgrading
11:12 < dc0de[m]> In my personal experience, upgrading is simple, painless, and is easily reversed. With all the standard caveats.
11:13 <@Corydon76> Unfortunately, I'm dealing with a problem now where a security update broke code that has been working for a long time.  Reversing that upgrade on a border box isn't an option.
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11:14 < dc0de[m]> My wife has both an android and Iphone (work). She cannot understand how people can use a device without Swype.
11:14 < dc0de[m]> And she finds the ui cumbersome... She says it's like going from fine calligraphy, to painting on cave walls with crayons.
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12:16 <@shapr> dc0de[m]: in which direction?
12:17 < dc0de[m]> that the iphone is retarded... the ui sucks, and is not intuitive, or as flexible as the Android.
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12:44 < dc0de[m]> https://twitter.com/itsrickmorty/status/923730975909179392
12:44 < PigBot> Title: Rick & Morty on Twitter: "Rick the Rap God https://t.co/x24P4DNV5B" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/y97pexgx
12:47 < xray> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/att-admits-defeat-in-lawsuit-it-filed-to-stall-google-fiber/
12:47 < PigBot> Title: AT admits defeat in lawsuit it filed to stall Google Fiber | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8dmgt3c
12:57 < aestetix> btw about Wittenberg
12:57 < aestetix> fucking American tourists. Are so fucking annoying.
12:57 < aestetix> and they were all there
12:58 < aestetix> There is something about aging protestant americans that just pisses me off
12:59 < DrArkaneX> lol
12:59 < DrArkaneX> well, you have to admit, the government told them they won vietnam
13:05 < aestetix> holy shit
13:05 < aestetix> ok get this
13:06 < aestetix> I was in Wittenberg yesterday, for Luther day. There was a massive crowd and a bunch of security, etc.
13:06 < aestetix> I was going to the church where he nailed the 95 theses. And it was all blocked off, all these people had cameras out, there was cheering etc.
13:06 < aestetix> I assumed it was some kind of ren-fair style re-enactment, I couldn't get high enough to see though
13:07 < aestetix> It turns out Angela Merkel was there to greet the church priests.
13:07 < aestetix> So without knowing it I was, by pure accident, less than 500 feet away from Merkel.
13:08 < aestetix> I literally just found that out, because I went looking for a video of the re-enactment on youtube
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13:41 <@shapr> OH SURE
14:44 < aestetix> yep
14:44 < aestetix> fourth turning
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17:09 <@brimstone> dc0de[m]: basically what the talk says on the tin
17:09 <@brimstone> i'm gonna turn the audience into password guessing machines
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