--- Log opened Mon Oct 30 00:00:29 2017 00:11 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:01 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:03 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 01:30 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:33 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 06:11 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:12 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:14 <@Dolemite> Oppressor! 06:14 <@Dolemite> You just triggered 06:14 <@Dolemite> I was hugged by a scary clown, once 06:14 <@Dolemite> How dare you! 06:18 < aestetix> are you going to accuse me of unwanted advances now? 06:18 < aestetix> and have it show up in all the news stories 06:18 <@Dolemite> I thought you might feel nostalgic for San Francisco 06:18 <@Dolemite> Did I make you feel like you were there? 06:18 < k3ymkr> That's some crazy shit. You should apologize, aestetix 06:23 < aestetix> what if I just come out publicly and admit I'm a Dolesexual? 06:25 <@Dolemite> who isn't? 06:26 < k3ymkr> I mean, I could have told you Kevin Spacey was gay. I thought that was just known 06:26 < k3ymkr> Like a dothraki 06:27 < aestetix> I do love how Hollywood has suddenly turned into morality police 06:27 < k3ymkr> What shocks me is this is happened in 85/86 06:27 < k3ymkr> Right? 06:27 < aestetix> And apparently the press has turned into the confessional 06:27 < k3ymkr> I mean...damn 06:28 < k3ymkr> Still. He was 14. That's messed up 06:28 < k3ymkr> How old was Kevin? 06:28 < aestetix> 1986? I'm gonna guess they were both on cocaine 06:28 < k3ymkr> He was like 27? 06:28 < k3ymkr> Somewhere in there 06:29 < aestetix> well I mean 06:29 < aestetix> in the rave world I knew someone who was 26 and dating a 16 year old 06:29 < aestetix> she looked like she was 21 though 06:29 < aestetix> so especially if you're doing drugs, it's entirely possible for a 14 year old to look older 06:32 < k3ymkr> I just installed the latest keybase. I see there's an android/ios version. I guess people just put their pgp keys there too? 06:32 < k3ymkr> That seems mad to me :) 06:32 < aestetix> yeah fuck keybase 06:33 < k3ymkr> I've never given them my private keys. They seem good about it. 06:33 < k3ymkr> But it, of course, limits the functionality 06:33 < k3ymkr> I was going to see if I could sign a key for android that authenticates the device, but not on the root 06:34 < k3ymkr> Then I could revoke android if I changed phones, lost it, realized some app was abusing it 07:54 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:02 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has joined #se2600 09:21 <@shapr> xray: do you still have Python questions? 09:21 <@shapr> xray: I'm doing a Python workshop at phreaknic, too bad you won't be there 09:21 <@shapr> maybe we can setup a video conference 09:58 <@dasunt> With direct fuel injection, why aren't two cycle engines more popular? 09:59 <@shapr> I vaguely recall they're not as efficient as four cycle, but I forget exactly how they're less efficient 09:59 <@shapr> I'd rather see tiny hybrid engines 09:59 <@dasunt> As far as I know, that's due to non-DFI 2S engines. 10:00 <@shapr> internal combustion engines are most efficient at a single temperature, rpm, and torque 10:00 <@dasunt> non-DFI 2S "lose" a bit of fuel every cycle because the fresh air/fuel mix goes into the cylinder as the burnt air/fuel mix is exhausted, so some unburnt fuel leaks out. 10:01 <@shapr> right 10:01 <@dasunt> But with DFI, only fresh air comes into the cylinder every cycle, and the fuel is injected into the cylinder later, preventing fuel loss. 10:01 <@shapr> oh really? 10:01 <@dasunt> Yep. 10:03 <@dasunt> Hmmm, I'm not sure how a DFI 2S lubricates itself though. 10:08 < DrArkaneX> 2 cycle is way more pollutant because of the oil in the fuel 10:09 < DrArkaneX> then there's diesel.. diesel is pretty dirty too but less than 2 cycle and way more efficient 10:11 <@Catonic> . 10:11 <@Catonic> let me guess, the hotel isn't taking the discount code of PN any more? 10:14 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@24-178-141-147.dhcp.thtn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:14 <@_NSAKEY> Catonic: How did you attempt to reserve a room? 10:16 <@shapr> I called 'em and they had no idea how to put us in the phreaknic block 10:16 <@shapr> and after 30 minutes of confusion on their part, I hung up and paid full price on the web form 10:16 <@Catonic> I'm trying to get vacation approved now. 10:16 <@_NSAKEY> shapr: When was this? 10:16 <@shapr> I just wanted a flippin room 10:16 <@oddball> If you call them, all you have to do is ask to be put in the Phreaknic room block. 10:16 <@shapr> _NSAKEY: probably late september? 10:16 <@shapr> I could check the exact date 10:17 <@_NSAKEY> Guys, when you have some break-down of shit like this, ping board@nashville2600.org. That's probably the best way to get someone from our end to take a look at the situation. 10:17 <@shapr> ok, good to know 10:17 <@shapr> I hope I got a room vaguely close to the conference tracks 10:17 <@shapr> but if not, whatever 10:18 -!- K`Tetch [~no@24-178-141-147.dhcp.thtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:18 -!- K`Tetch [~no@24-178-141-147.dhcp.thtn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:18 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has joined #se2600 10:18 <@_NSAKEY> If some adult diapers have to be changed in the lobby at the Clarion, it's best if we know to stock up on depends sooner rather than layer. 10:19 < aestetix> any chance you're streaming the talks? 10:19 <@shapr> heheh 10:19 <@_NSAKEY> s/layer/later/ 10:20 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: Does 2 cycle require oil in the fuel? 10:22 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: as far as i've always known, yes.. my chainsaw requires it, my weed whacker requires it. 2 cycle is good if you want a lot of power in a small package 10:23 < DrArkaneX> i rebuilt my first 2 cycle motor when i was around 11, so easy 10:24 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@24-178-141-147.dhcp.thtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:26 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32 <@Catonic> dasunt: yes, but the mix required varies from application to application and manufacturer to manufacturer 10:33 <@Catonic> and you need to shake the mix before use so it doesn't completely separate by specific gravity. 10:33 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: How does DFI lubriate then? 10:34 <@dasunt> Catonic: The shaking the mix and dealing with the mix is why I'm not switching my moped over to premix. 10:34 <@Catonic> I'd rather go electric, but we're not to the point of having ESC controlled three-phase motors in small appliances, or sufficient amounts of torque in applications that need it. 10:34 < DrArkaneX> DFI squirts the right amount of oil in with the fuel before combustion 10:35 < DrArkaneX> none of that pesky premixing... 10:36 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: http://www.boats.com/resources/outboard-expert-dfi-tutorial/#.WfdG4rynFhE 10:36 < PigBot> Title: DFI Direct Fuel Injection Two Stroke Outboards: The Outboard Expert - boats.com (at www.boats.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybwlzchx 10:37 < DrArkaneX> neat animation of how 2 cycle works, i however find that the rotary engine animation is more impressive... :) 10:37 < DrArkaneX> i've never understood why they never made a diesel rotary for production 10:47 <@shapr> yeah, me either 10:47 <@shapr> wankel has more power payoff for weight after the first few slices 10:47 <@shapr> the initial weight cost for the wankel is higher, but lower when adding more slices 10:48 <@shapr> weight per piston is higher with a standard internal combustion engine 10:48 < DrArkaneX> plus metalurgy has improved since the 70s. 10:49 < DrArkaneX> rotaries were prone to apex seal failure a lot, i'm wondering what improvements they've made. I know mazda was experimenting with hydrogen but i haven't heard anything new on that lately 11:02 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: If DFI squirts the oil in, then how is the crank case lubricated? 11:05 <@dasunt> I know in my (non-DFI) engine, the air/fuel/oil mix goes through the crankcase first, then through the intake for the cylinder. 11:08 <@dasunt> But my engine, even by two cycle standards, is quite primitive. 11:12 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: i don't have much experience with dfi engines, but i would say that crank case oil and dfi oil is the same thing 11:12 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: some may have separate containers for each.. 11:22 < strages> I had zero problems registering for a room for Phreaknic. Told them Phreaknic with a ph and a minute later had a room reserved 11:29 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: That's what I'm wondering. Since DFI injects directly into the cylinder, it can't obviously lubricate the crankcase. 11:29 <@dasunt> I would assume that one could do a conventional 4S lubrication on a 2S DFI engine. Which would give the advantage that you don't have to fill up with oil that often. 11:34 -!- DrArkane1 [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 11:36 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:01 -!- DrArkane1 [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:01 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has joined #se2600 13:03 <@dasunt> Jesus, can Trump just shut the fuck up about Clinton? 13:04 < dc0de[m]> dasunt, having not seen the news, and based on your question, Occum's Razor says.... No. 13:11 <@shapr> poor little trump, just has no connection to reality 13:17 <@Dolemite> Distraction tactics are about the only tactics he knows. 13:18 <@Dolemite> You think I did something wrong? Look over there! 13:26 < aestetix> dasunt: oh come on 13:26 < aestetix> you know they both get off to it 14:24 <@dasunt> I don't care, this shouldn't be an excuse. 14:25 <@dasunt> This is the equivalent of "But Billy's parents let him do it..." coming from the president of the US. 14:28 <@Corydon76> Not even that good. It's more along the lines of, "But there are kids starving in India; in the grand scheme of things, me breaking the window is irrelevant." 14:49 * dasunt makes the mistake of assuming Windows 7 can format two USB drives at the same time. 14:49 <@dasunt> Oh wait, I can, it just kills diskmgmt for a bit. 14:52 < DrArkaneX> lol 14:54 * Catonic returns 14:55 * strages alerts of the school board and local police 14:55 <@Catonic> DrArkaneX: Kubota makes the Z482 14:55 <@dasunt> Finally saw the new Blade Runner. 14:55 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: what did ya think, i kkinda liked it 14:56 < DrArkaneX> Catonic: huh? 14:56 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: Visually, it's very faithful to the original. 14:56 <@dasunt> DrArkaneX: For what happens, the first 90 minutes is a pretty good sequel, but then I feel that it adopts a more conventional Hollywood plot. 14:56 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: ya.. story was pretty good, kinda got weak on my about the 1:30 mark but it picked back up 14:57 <@dasunt> I'm not sure the overall story is faithful to the original. 14:57 < DrArkaneX> dasunt: not as good as the original imho, but it wasn't terrible 14:57 <@Catonic> strages: that was just once, jeez. she said she was 21. 15:09 <@dasunt> Oh goodie, someone's wifi died. 15:12 <@_NSAKEY> . 15:25 <@Corydon76> dasunt: I think the new Blade Runner realizes why the old Blade Runner never was a success in theaters and remedied that: the incessant use of soft jazz as the soundtrack. 15:26 <@Corydon76> 10 minutes into the original, I was ready to stab myself in the eardrums to get the pain to stop. 15:27 -!- DrArkaneX [~doc@unaffiliated/drarkanex] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:43 <@dasunt> LOL. 15:44 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has quit [] 15:49 <@Catonic> I had a great LOL on a tour of an NPR station; there on the board, there was a single fader entitled: "Jazz" 15:59 <@dasunt> I love the odd Wikipedia pages like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement 15:59 < PigBot> Title: Prince Philip Movement - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/865zhkk 16:09 <@Evilpig> http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/30/nvidia-rolls-shield-experience-6-1-assistant-improvements-krack-fix-youtube-tv-support/ 16:10 < PigBot> Title: NVIDIA rolls out SHIELD Experience 6.1 with Assistant improvements, KRACK fix, YouTube TV support, and more (at www.androidpolice.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7fxtfcy 16:10 <@Evilpig> looks like nvidia patched the shield tv's for krack today 16:36 <@Catonic> good news/bad news 16:36 <@Catonic> Barring gross mechanical failure, I will be at PN. 16:38 <@Catonic> I say this because the good Lord knows I need an alabi. 16:38 <@Catonic> *alibi 16:46 < k3ymkr> I plan on being there. 16:46 < k3ymkr> Have a room and I paid. 16:46 < k3ymkr> I think 16:46 < k3ymkr> Never saw a confirmation email 16:46 < k3ymkr> But maybe that just doesn't work 16:48 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has joined #se2600 17:54 <@Dagmar> Picky picky picky 17:54 <@Dagmar> I just did the "I am not a robot" Re-Captcha only to see it say 'The response you have provided is incorrect.' 17:54 <@Dagmar> o.O 17:58 <@Corydon76> I was amused that they have a ton of those on the AARP site 17:58 <@Corydon76> After telling you how you must amass points, they send you to a CAPTCHA if you try to amass points. 19:22 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has quit [] 19:32 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has joined #se2600 19:54 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has quit [] 21:13 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:10 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-73-7-141-82.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:45 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has joined #se2600 23:21 -!- remoford2 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:23 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-69-137-84-154.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:27 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ae8c:b200:3801:fe4:86d1:2585] has quit [] --- Log closed Tue Oct 31 00:00:31 2017