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06:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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11:54 < DrArkaneX> there's a few names i recognize.. :)
11:54 <@Dolemite> HOLY SHIZNIT
11:54 < DrArkaneX> whadup dole
11:54 < DrArkaneX> i didn't know you was hiding out here... :)
11:55 <@Dolemite> Never really left
11:55 < DrArkaneX> lol
11:55 < DrArkaneX> i haven't been on irc very much but i think i'm gonna give it another good shot.. ;)
11:55 <@Dolemite> It's mostly quiet in here during the day...   which is the only time I'm on
11:56 < DrArkaneX> dochench comes and goes on irc a bit
11:58 < DrArkaneX> finally got my gentoo parition where i want it..  need to compile a few other things but overall.. console only
11:58 <@shapr> I need a nixos drive
11:59 < DrArkaneX> i'm on a 128kbs connection, living out in the sticks sucks.  i mean, there's 6mbit DSL for 160$ a month.. but i'm not biting
12:00 <@Dolemite> that's nuts
12:00 < DrArkaneX> wish i could just tap into the fiber connection but that would require digging
12:00 < DrArkaneX> ive done enoug digging.. lol.  had to dig a trench 3-4 inches down to run some 220v 10/3 wire
12:01 < DrArkaneX> got my house wired up and my work shed, and got my welder working so i'm licking my wounds now but i plan on getting something done soon as i get some material
12:01 < DrArkaneX> i plan on building a forge soon
12:02 <@Corydon76> Rent a DitchWitch.  Makes the trenching fast and easy.
12:02 < DrArkaneX> for a 3-4 inch trench, ditch witch is overkill
12:03 <@Corydon76> While that's technically true, the 3-4 inch trench is generally out of codes
12:03 < DrArkaneX> if i were rnning a water line, you bet yer sweet ass im gonna rent a ditch witch... :)
12:03 < DrArkaneX> Corydon76: i live in a very rural part of tennessee, fuck codes.. :)
12:04 <@Corydon76> My take on codes is that they're there for my own safety, so I do my best to comply.
12:04 < DrArkaneX> code would state to run it in conduit 6 inches down.  i didn't do that
12:05 <@Corydon76> Yeah, because the next time you dig, you REALLY don't want to hit it with a shovel
12:05 <@Corydon76> Especially 220V
12:05 < DrArkaneX> yea. i get codes and why they are important, its to keep everyone else safe, but again i live in a very sparse area.  i have 7 acres and i have no neighbors so it's not hurtng anyone. in a city i can see why complying with codes is essential
12:06 <@Corydon76> Fuck other people.  It's my own life that I'm protecting.
12:06 < DrArkaneX> lol
12:06 < DrArkaneX> well, when you're in a densely populated area, i get it.. codes is important.  but out here.. it's like fuck it..
12:07 <@Corydon76> If I bury an electrical line, I'm not going to remember where it is, and I'm likely to hit it with a shovel on some other future project.
12:07 <@Corydon76> And if I'm in a rural area, it's going to be days before they find me, and I'll be dead by then
12:07 < DrArkaneX> out here if you wanna put up a temp power pole.  all you do is set it up, call the electric company and they hook it up without inspection.  in nashville, you gotta go thru red tape, get it inspecte, etc etc... then about 500 dollars later you're good
12:07 < DrArkaneX> Corydon76: hahahaha
12:08 <@Corydon76> I'm in Springfield
12:08 < DrArkaneX> Summertown here
12:08 <@Corydon76> I'm quite happy not to have to pass emissions every year
12:08 < DrArkaneX> same here
12:10 < DrArkaneX> where i buried the line, it's not likely i'm going to be doing any digging.  i hate digging anyways.  but this was a necessary evil
12:11 < DrArkaneX> i could have run it overhead, but that just looks too redneck
12:12 <@shapr> ground return is redneck
12:12 <@Corydon76> It's also nice that Codes Enforcement doesn't come bitch about how high the grass in my yard is
12:12 < DrArkaneX> ground return is negligable
12:12 <@Corydon76> Or, hey, you've got too much shit on your porch.
12:13 < DrArkaneX> hahaha
12:13 < DrArkaneX> or too many cars in your driveway.. lol
12:13 <@Corydon76> Or you're not allowed to park cars on your lawn.
12:14 < DrArkaneX> i lived in south nashville for like 40 years..  our area was going to be overrun by an HOA because mexicans were moving in and they wanted a legal reason to fuck with people
12:14 <@Corydon76> I no longer live on a dead-end street, but it might as well be a dead-end street, because there's utterly no traffic
12:15 <@Corydon76> Yeah, HOAs are a pet peeve
12:15 < DrArkaneX> the most traffc we get on our street is amish buggies on sunday or a funeral
12:15 <@Corydon76> I was pleasantly surprised that my house didn't have one
12:15 <@Corydon76> With roads named after golfing terms, I figured it would
12:15 < DrArkaneX> with all these stadiums coming into nashville, i'm really glad not to be paying property taxes anymore in nashville, it's getting too stupid there
12:16 <@Corydon76> Nearest intersection is Fairway and Masters.  Common access road is Nicklaus.
12:16 < DrArkaneX> was paying about 3k in prop tax in nashville, here, 2 houses and 7 acres, $283 a year
12:16 <@Corydon76> Property taxes here are $2k
12:16 < DrArkaneX> ouch
12:17 <@Corydon76> But I also live in a really nice neighborhood
12:17 <@Corydon76> I think I live in the cheapest house on my street.
12:17 <@Corydon76> The one behind me is $1M+... has a pool and a pool house...
12:18 < DrArkaneX> aye.. it's pretty nice here too.  very rustic. a lot of trailers and prefabs but it's really quiet here and on a clear night you can see the milky way so there's that.. lol
12:18 <@Corydon76> The closest trailer to me is the one sitting in the Walmart parking lot
12:18 < DrArkaneX> oh yer in springfield so you are along the norther rim, we are just on the southern rim
12:20 <@Corydon76> Triple the space of my old house, and property taxes are only double what they were in Nashville
12:20 <@Corydon76> And most of that is county taxes.  City taxes were a third of the total bill
12:21 < DrArkaneX> for the last 3 years, i've lived in 193 sq feet with all the ammenities..  bathroom, full kitchen, etc etc
12:21 < DrArkaneX> wood heat, no A/C.  my electric bill avgs $65  lol
12:21 <@Corydon76> I can't imagine.  I'm now in 3300 sq ft
12:22 < DrArkaneX> hahaha, it's not as bad as you'd think.  i was a little leary at first but after 3 years..  all the money i've saved..
12:22 <@Corydon76> It's nice having a desk that is not crammed in right next to my rack
12:23 < DrArkaneX> hahahaha
12:23 <@Corydon76> I can't even HEAR the rack fans from here.
12:24 < DrArkaneX> i was still able to have room for my cali king bed too.. lol
12:26 <@shapr> I live in 800 sq ft
12:26 <@shapr> I had to give away my IBM BladeCenter
12:26 < DrArkaneX> shapr: nice. 800 is not too bad, it's about my limit, i can't do anything higher than that
12:27 <@shapr> On the good side, my laptop is more powerful than everything I had in the bladecenter
12:27 < DrArkaneX> i could tack on a sound dampening room and put servers in it, but again, i can't really do that with the available choices here for internet service are beyond stupid
12:28 <@sasquatc4> heh, good to see my nick still works on here, been a few years
12:28 < DrArkaneX> the local telco has a contract on this area that keeps charter and other telcos out (even att)
12:28 <@shapr> downside? laptop blisters my lap when I try to use both CPU and GPU to mine zcash
12:29 <@shapr> I really hate monopolies like that
12:29 < DrArkaneX> im 1.28 miles from the closest charter drop
12:30 < DrArkaneX> i was considering putting up a 900mhz wireless link from the highway and running the signal back here but that's toomuch
12:31 < DrArkaneX> my aunt lives along the highway on a charter drop, the wireless equip would cost about 500 bucks and should be able to get the signal here as it is line of sight
12:31 < DrArkaneX> i wouldnt get the full bandwidth but i could get more than 6mbit possibly.  but i weighed it out and it wouldn't be worth it
12:32 < DrArkaneX> they have wimax service here from 2 different co. but neither of them have towers close enough
12:32 <@Corydon76> When SpaceX gets its first phase of satellites deployed, you might look into that.
12:32 < DrArkaneX> true
12:33 <@Corydon76> No telling how expensive it will be, but they'll be able to blanket the Earth in access
12:33 < DrArkaneX> i have been bugging charter to come back this way..  i've heard the local telco didn't pay their licensing fee this year so it's possible att or charter could come back here
12:33 < DrArkaneX> get this
12:34 < DrArkaneX> the local telco, when you get phone service, its long distance to call someone across the highway
12:34 < DrArkaneX> lol
12:34 < DrArkaneX> living out here, you'd swear it's the 70s
12:36 < DrArkaneX> oh and get this, if you do sign up for internet, instead of putting a router off the dsl modem, if you put a switch in and hook up a bunch of devices to the switch, they hand out public ip's like mad, they have no restrictions on public ips and if you use more than 5, they get upset because they don't know how to configure their shit
12:36 <@Corydon76> Sounds ripe for a CLEC to come in and blow them out of the water
12:37 < DrArkaneX> id almost be willing to hook a dsl modem up to see if i could get soe kind of service out of it...
12:37 < DrArkaneX> seems like they dont even maintain their shit
12:38 < DrArkaneX> they don't require a login for dsl service and i would guess it's all MAC based authentication
12:38 <@Corydon76> If you can get a dry alarm pair under 1.5 miles end-to-end, I've heard that you can reliably run a T1 across the pairs
12:38 < DrArkaneX> so i'm wondering if i could spoof a mac address and get some internet.. :)
12:39 <@Corydon76> They may not even do that much.  They may just depend upon the fact that if you have a connection, you must be paying for it.
12:40 < DrArkaneX> i'm just wondering how they account for it, because it seems to me that they have a drop in solution for DSL that they don't maintain much, i'm pretty sure they do MAC authentication for service
12:40 < DrArkaneX> the line to my house is still hot
12:41 <@Corydon76> Might they depend upon static configuration of IPs?
12:41 < DrArkaneX> y only issue is figuring out how to mac spoof on the dsl modem
12:41 <@Corydon76> i.e. if you have an IP, you must have paid for it?
12:41 < DrArkaneX> as i said above, if you hook a switch into the dsl modem, there is no restrictin on public ips
12:42 <@Corydon76> Tunneled or routed, I wonder
12:43 < DrArkaneX> i might play with it this week and see what i come up with.  they're not that smart
12:43 < DrArkaneX> and i'm sure there is a work around
12:44 <@Corydon76> Yeah, but on the flip side, I also know that if you're caught, you'll get hit with a fine that is many times what you would have paid for the service in the first place
12:44 < DrArkaneX> i'm not sure if i know everyone on here but i know dole pretty well.  i used to go by The Bandit on commodore 64 back in the early 80s
12:45 <@Corydon76> You're better off trying to social engineer yourself a better rate.
12:45 < DrArkaneX> when i switched to IBM back in the 90s, i changed my nick to Dr Arkane Madness, but Dagmar said it was too long and I should make it smaller..lol
12:46 < DrArkaneX> aye i've been working with charter, i think i'm getting closer
12:46 < DrArkaneX> there is enough people back here paying 160$ a month to warrant charter coming back here
12:47 <@Corydon76> "Hey, I'm paying Sprint $50/mo right now for 5Mbps access over their network; can you beat that price?"
12:47 < DrArkaneX> sprint doesnt service this area. you get to mt pleasant, tn and it drops hard... lol
12:47 < DrArkaneX> att and tmobile is king here
12:48 <@Corydon76> Say T-Mobile, then
12:48 < DrArkaneX> verizon is ok if you are close to the highway
12:48 < DrArkaneX> aye.  we just signed up for tmobile, waiting for the number to port over
12:48 <@Corydon76> Doesn't need to be accurate.  Just needs to get them to negotiate
12:48 < DrArkaneX> that's 50GB cap, i can handle that
12:48 <@Corydon76> I'm on T-Mobile here
12:49 <@Corydon76> Not the best service in Springfield, but I aim to get as many freebies off them as possible
12:49 < DrArkaneX> true
12:49 <@Corydon76> They're now offering a discount if you use less than 2G/mo on each line
12:50 <@Corydon76> So a number of my lines are on tablets that aren't even powered on.  Easy discount.
12:51 < DrArkaneX> bbl
12:54 < K`Tetch_> i'm paying 30.75/mo for 1gb on my cellphone
12:54 < K`Tetch_> using verizon towers
12:56 < K`Tetch_> after 1gb it goes to 2g speed, but i never use that much data
12:57 <@Corydon76> Went on vacation once with that as a backup connection.  My husband used the entire allocation in 15 to watch a Youtube video (which helpfully decided to show the video at the maximum quality on his cellphone, when the device isn't even capable of showing that quality).
12:58 <@Corydon76> I was able to harass a Verizon operator that that usage was incorrect, and they reset the allocation.
12:58 < K`Tetch_> selectel, that's the service name (was racking my brain there)
12:58 < K`Tetch_> i rarely watch videos
12:59 <@Corydon76> I was suitably pissed that the connection I got to use for SSH into work was used to watch a video
12:59 < K`Tetch_> and until 6 months ago, I had no smartphone, just a wifi tablet, so I know every wifi hotspot in this county
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18:47 <@Catonic> Corydon76: any word on 600 MHz MiFis or Jetpacks? or even phones?
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