--- Log opened Fri Oct 13 00:00:23 2017 01:47 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:51 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:51 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 08:00 < aestetix> oh boy, Amazon just got pulled into the Hollywood drama 08:12 < aestetix> Dolemite: as much as I hate slate: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/10/why_there_s_never_been_more_bitter_rancor_between_the_girl_scouts_and_the.html 08:12 < PigBot> Title: The Boy Scouts are considering integrating girls into their programs. Here's why. (at www.slate.com) http://tinyurl.com/yb2n4ach 08:34 <@Dolemite> aestetix: That is definitely an article written by someone from the outside looking in, and mostly talking from a Girl Scouts USA point of view. 08:51 < aestetix> well given it's slate.... that makes sense 08:51 < aestetix> Since slate seems to be mostly angry feminists who don't actually *do* anything :) 08:52 <@Dolemite> I wouldn't agree with that 08:53 <@Dolemite> Slate is definitely left leaning, but it's not mostly feminist 08:53 <@Dolemite> At least the stuff listed as news. They have a lot of bloggers, though, but I don't read that shit. 08:54 < aestetix> ok, I guess the sample size I've seen, mostly links from other sites, has been skewed 08:54 < aestetix> plus I had to stop reading slate and salon both probably mid-2016 08:54 <@Dolemite> Salon I gave up on back in 2014 or 2015 09:07 < aestetix> Dolemite: then what do you read 09:08 <@Corydon76> I would suggest Dave Farber's Interesting People list, and Richard Forno's InfoWarrior list. 09:09 <@Corydon76> Both will give you important stories that are filtered by intelligent minds. 09:09 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:11 <@Corydon76> Speaking of which, it appears TransUnion is now also serving malware: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/equifax-rival-transunion-also-sends-site-visitors-to-malicious-pages/ 09:11 < PigBot> Title: Equifax rival TransUnion also sends site visitors to malicious pages | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9u659f5 09:14 <@Dolemite> aestetix: The Hill, Politico, CNN, WaPo, and some Slate 09:14 <@Dolemite> So my trumpeter friends would consider most of that to be fake news 09:15 <@Dolemite> Because any news organization that publishes one incorrect thing (other than Fox News) is instantly Fake News, even if a retraction or clarification was published 09:18 < K`Tetch_> it's funny how TheHill has changed int he last year 09:18 < K`Tetch_> It used to be such a hotbed of far-right, I'd constantly get my comments deleted 09:18 < K`Tetch_> (far right, not extreme right) 09:20 < aestetix> tbqh the outlets have gotten too extreme in general for me 09:20 < aestetix> so at the moment I have a list of journalists that I follow 09:20 < aestetix> some from NY Times, some from other places 09:20 < aestetix> that way I don't have to endure the front page shock 09:21 * Catonic twitches 09:37 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:1d:9356:5d7d:71cc] has joined #se2600 10:01 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@dhcp-129-59-122-50.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:07 <@rattle> I really wish I was in a position where I could completely change my media diet. The last year has been extremely stressful. 10:08 < aestetix> I'm watching an interview right now about what has been happening with Title IX cases 10:08 < aestetix> Obama really, really, really fucked things up 10:09 <@rattle> I've sorta positioned myself to be someone with a grasp on existing controversy, so I consume an enormous amount of media on both sides of the spectrum. All the WaPo, NYT, LAT, type stuff. But also FOX, CNN, and MSNBC. And Breitbart, Infowars, Drudge, etc.. 10:09 <@rattle> In the past, it wasn't actually that bad or hard to do.. And I liked hearing different voices on issues.. 10:09 < aestetix> rattle: i've been following breitbart a lot more since Bannon went back 10:09 < aestetix> since they cover actual things now and not just Milo's sex life 10:09 <@rattle> These days, it's like.. fucking horror. 10:10 < aestetix> but yeah, agreed 10:10 < aestetix> rattle: but everything is controversial now 10:11 <@rattle> The most disturbing trend is that it seems the only folks that actually check their facts and make corrections are the ones being labeled "fake news". 10:13 <@rattle> Breitbart is one of the most annoying ones to follow. They have zero regard for facts.. And everything is in CAPS. Parsing their main page or any listing of stories is like reading a crazy chain email. 10:13 < aestetix> They are a little bit like looking at the Las Vegas strip 10:13 <@rattle> Just trying to parse them is stress inducing, let alone the content.. 10:13 < aestetix> lots of neon colors and blinky lights 10:14 <@Corydon76> Manufactured controversy, like the NFL protests 10:15 <@Corydon76> There was an attempted terrorist attack on US soil 7 days ago that virtually nobody covered, because it was a white domestic terrorist who didn't use a gun. 10:16 <@Dolemite> The Ashville airport one? 10:16 <@Corydon76> Right 10:16 <@Corydon76> Local news, and then an independent journalist picked it up 10:17 <@Corydon76> But it didn't hit any major news organization, because it didn't fit their narrative. 10:17 <@Corydon76> No guns, so liberals weren't interested, and no Muslims, so conservatives weren't interested. 10:18 <@rattle> The bombing in Seaside Heights awhile back was sorta the same thing. Not enough people hurt to get attention, and it didn't fit anyone's narrative. 10:18 <@Corydon76> Instead, we're still puzzling over why a white with a Filipino girlfriend shot 58 people. 10:18 <@rattle> Same thing with the street bombing in mid-down NYC awhile back too.. 10:18 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-98-193-255-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 10:19 <@rattle> The only reason that one is getting so much attention was because of the death toll.. There's sorta no way to ignore something like that. 10:19 <@Corydon76> rattle: Infowars is trying. I've already heard that it didn't really happen, just like Sandy Hook. 10:20 <@Corydon76> Supposedly, the Las Vegas Massacre was fake news, designed to allow lawmakers to clamp down on guns. 10:22 <@Corydon76> Because, of course, only Muslims attack us. White guys blowing the world up makes no sense, whatsoever. It's not like white guys don't start the majority of wars or anything like that. 10:22 <@rattle> The whole Infowars universe is shockingly huge. They actually do some crafty stuff. They will publish something, and at the same time have a bunch of independent looking blogs and social media posting supporting stuff, so it seems like there's ground swell around something.. And people just fall for it en mass.. 10:23 <@Corydon76> I don't understand how people actually take Alex Jones seriously. He's already argued in COURT that it's all an act, a way to make money. 10:23 <@rattle> So far, the biggest "security event" I've had to deal with at $dayjob was caused by them.. They claimed $dayjob was plotting the assassination of Trump. Logged like 150 incidents in the wake of that. Threatening emails, phone calls, mail, etc.. Full spectrum. 10:28 < aestetix> That's pretty bad 10:35 <@Dagmar> Maybe they could focus on the blackhearted shit that Trump is actually doing 10:36 <@Dagmar> Oh no wait... if you do that, Trump threatens your FCC licence 10:38 <@Corydon76> If he keeps up his antics throughout next year, maybe we could get both houses of Congress to flip. At least, then, we'd have an equal way to hold his feet to the fire. 10:38 <@Corydon76> Even if that doesn't mean impeachment. 10:43 <@shapr> trump, season 1? 11:54 < aestetix> You know what makes me sad 11:55 < aestetix> Seeing a video from a talk show or something from 10 years ago 11:55 < aestetix> And knowing it would never air today because it's too "edgy" 11:55 < aestetix> I'm currently reflecting on a Sarah Silverman interview, but there are many many other examples 12:04 < TheDukh> Sooo...Trump is backing out of the Iran deal 12:06 < aestetix> I'm curious on what grounds 12:06 < aestetix> I watched an interview with... James Dobbins? and he went over all the general points of the Iran deal 12:07 < TheDukh> supporting terrorists 12:07 < aestetix> It seems very inadvisable to back out of it 12:07 < TheDukh> and destabilization of the region 12:07 < aestetix> But Trump himself has recertified that Iran has complied with all the guidelines... twice 12:08 < TheDukh> and he called out the current Islamic regime is supporting terrorists, and are getting sanctions 12:08 < aestetix> oh I see 12:08 < aestetix> He won't sign off, but he's not pulling out 12:08 < TheDukh> his head wiggles every time he says "deal" 12:09 < aestetix> http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41615425/us-president-trump-on-iran 12:09 < PigBot> Title: US President Trump on Iran - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybt2qtfv 12:09 < TheDukh> jesus fucking christ, he can't even talk 12:09 < aestetix> oh wow ok I see 12:09 < aestetix> he's not certifying it again 12:10 < TheDukh> he said he's standing with the citizens...and not their leaders... 12:10 < TheDukh> ffs... 12:14 < aestetix> this crap is why I don't use twitter anymore 12:22 <@Catonic> rattle: amen on the media diet 12:32 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:1d:9356:5d7d:71cc] has quit [] 12:56 <@dasunt> Oh, now Trump's picking a fight with Iran. 13:11 < cyberanger> Guess the pumpkin is spicing up our foreign relations again....... 13:29 <@Dagmar> It would serve him right if some foreign government had someone deliver a flaming bag of poop to the white house doorstep on Halloween 13:30 <@Dagmar> No one could confuse it with an "act of war" 14:03 <@dasunt> I could think of someone who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who could confuse it with an act of war. 14:11 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:b931:d8fc:e127:700c] has joined #se2600 14:13 < aestetix> I wonder what would happen if Hollywood went to war against Iran 14:14 < aestetix> Hollywood is going to war against Trump, and Trump is going to war against Iran 14:14 < aestetix> so cut out the middleman 14:50 <@rattle> Swifty thinking.. Given Argo, there's sorta precedent too.. 15:25 <@dasunt> I just spent over 3 1/2 hours diagnosing a A/V system that I had not set up, and I could not easily access the back of. 15:25 <@dasunt> Turned out someone had unplugged a cable and plugged it back into the wrong location. 15:38 < dc0de[m]> dasunt - the cleaning lady? 15:38 <@dasunt> dc0de[m]: I'm guessing someone was trying to hook up something. Dunno what. 15:39 < dc0de[m]> grr. 15:39 <@Corydon76> dasunt: Had that happen before with T1's 15:39 <@Corydon76> And yes, we believe it was the cleaning lady 15:39 <@dasunt> Doesn't help that the installer seems to have run a bunch of extra cabling and has them disconnected. 15:40 <@dasunt> So I'm stuck trying to figure out why one conference room has sound, the other doesn't, and my view of this dumbass system is basically through my cell phone's camera. 15:40 < dc0de[m]> and let me guess, they're also not labeled? 15:40 <@dasunt> Why would they be labeled? 15:40 <@Corydon76> Couldn't understand why it went down when the NOC said it did. Then we looked at the logs and found that the NOC wasn't monitoring it at all. They just had someone look at the lights and notated when they saw that it was red. 15:41 <@Corydon76> Why label shit that nobody should be messing with in the first place? 15:41 <@dasunt> Some were labeled with numbers. 15:41 <@dasunt> Not all, of course. 15:42 <@Corydon76> Reminds me of the NOC where the main door has very impressive security. Then, the backdoor to the NOC, the one that goes out to the loading dock, has a simple unlocked doorknob 15:42 <@dasunt> Luckily the other conference room was working and goes through the same equipment, so I could swap room A's audio with room B's to figure out what was working, once I had the whole system diagrammed. 15:43 <@dasunt> I had NPR News playing on a laptop hooked up in room A, and pop music hooked up in room B. 15:44 <@dasunt> Also, I killed both conference rooms once because it turns out that a network switch for the A/V system went dead, and with no working network switch, the system doesn't boot up correctly. That was a fun side task. 15:47 < dc0de[m]> I'm having a wonderful afternoon... recruiters are fighting over my time.... 15:48 <@Corydon76> dc0de[m]: that does sound like a good time, at least once in awhile 15:49 <@Corydon76> As long as the recruiters are working for companies and aren't freelancers 15:50 < dc0de[m]> Corydon: Yup, they're legit recruiters.... big companies... 15:50 <@Corydon76> Excellent 15:51 < dc0de[m]> now playing phone tag with a guy from a recruiting firm in NYC. 15:57 <@rattle> dc0de[m]: Ohhh.. You moving to NYC? THAT MEANS WE CAN SEE EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME THAT MUST MAKE YOU SO HAPPY! 16:19 < dc0de[m]> NYC? NO FUCKING WAY. 16:19 < dc0de[m]> Rattle, I'd love to hang out with you all the time... no shit. 16:19 < dc0de[m]> I like our conversations.... it takes iron to sharpen iron. 16:30 < xray> dc0de[m]: you would be one step closer to being back to Atl 16:31 < dc0de[m]> NYC isn't a step closer to ATL, it's a step from the Frying Pan, into the Fire. 16:31 < dc0de[m]> I have my options, and moving to NYC isn't one of them... :) 16:32 < xray> I take it you have lived there before. 16:32 < dc0de[m]> I grew up in New England, I know the city well, and enjoy it. I would NEVER want to live there. 16:32 < xray> ah 16:32 < dc0de[m]> Just like I hate living in L.A. right now... 16:32 < xray> lavalamp is in LA 16:33 < dc0de[m]> xray: never lived there... had LOTS of my parents frieends who lived in the city. and we visted at least 3 times a year for 10 years. w 16:33 < xray> I've visited NYC a few times 16:33 < xray> always had fun 16:33 < xray> not sure about living their 16:33 < dc0de[m]> Have you driven in it? With a car that YOU own? 16:34 < xray> Atl is about as big city as I like 16:34 < dc0de[m]> I have... 16:34 < xray> yes 16:34 < dc0de[m]> not recommended 16:34 < xray> parking costs freaky money 16:34 < dc0de[m]> Let's put it this way, I'd rather move to Ozark Alabama, than NYC. 16:35 < dc0de[m]> And I'm not that fond of Ozark. 16:51 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 < aestetix> dc0de[m]: you should come to Germayn 17:31 <@NotLarry> dc0de[m]: isn't there legislation that kind of indicates Ozark isn't that fond of you either? 17:56 < dc0de[m]> NotLarry: didn't the statute of limitations expire on that one? 17:57 * dc0de[m] stares at his fingers, counting.... 18:29 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:b931:d8fc:e127:700c] has quit [] 18:35 -!- LastChild [~RasPi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:56 < aestetix> man 18:56 < aestetix> I think I'll never be able to see the letters AP together without thinking "Alexis Park" 19:23 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:1d:9356:5d7d:71cc] has joined #se2600 19:28 < aestetix> man I see why you guys in the south are so skeptical of religious ideas 19:28 < aestetix> I'm watching this video of a guy attempting to use scriptures to predict what will happen on september 23, 2017 19:29 < aestetix> it's like alex jones level nuttiness 19:29 < aestetix> He takes a single science fact, picks a few scripture verses, and then somehow uses that to prove all this crap 19:46 < TheDukh> It gets worse the further back in the woods you go. 19:50 < dc0de[m]> aestetix: those jerkwads are all out there.... and they've been there througout the history of mankind. 19:51 < dc0de[m]> sadly, they take ignorant people and sucker them into either giving their money, or worse, their life. 19:52 * Catonic twitches 19:54 <@Catonic> aestetix: and it's when you see that sort of thing that you realize how utterly useless the book is other than being a reference material written in a dead language that one can pull random text out of 19:55 <@Catonic> 'cause if you think poo coming out of your backside is evil, wait until you get to menses. 19:58 * Catonic splits 19:59 < aestetix> Catonic: or you realize that those idiots have no clue what the hell they are talking about 20:00 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:1d:9356:5d7d:71cc] has quit [] 22:50 <@Catonic> aestetix: yeah, but I live in the South. --- Log closed Sat Oct 14 00:00:24 2017